Bill Clinton does press conference as Obama runs out for a Christmas party.

[ELVIS]

That's right...

[Seshmeister]

It doesn't look good does it.

I think the way the system works Clinton is as good as it gets for an American president.

The insane money you need to raise plus the crazy length of the campaign and the way people vote means you are going to get a certain type of person and they aren't often going to be a good candidate.
Clinton is unique in having such intellect combined with extraordinary bullshitter/charisma skills plus some decent decision making skills.

One example is Somalia if you think about it. After the whole Blackhawk Down thing Clinton thought 'fuck this crap, lets get out of shit hole'.

A lot of people criticised that as being weak or losing or something. I think he was entirely right, I don't see any point in our young people being killed in places where they aren't wanted and can't win.

If only 9-11 had happened under Clinton's watch he would have gathered all of the huge goodwill to the US at that time and really done something with it.

Which brings me on to the weakness of the guy like any of these kind of people. I believe he said his one regret of his presidency was that he didn't have a crisis to deal with.

That's such an huge ego thing to say if you think about it. You want something terrible to happen to other people so that you can show how good you are.

[Seshmeister]

OK, so Elvis don't want a Black president, but the White Christians had 43 chances before that, and most of them fucked it up. Guess it's time to give the Jews a shot then?

Feingold is Jewish, Dean's wife and kids are. Sounds like a plan to me.

DEAN/FEINGOLD 2012. YEEAARRGGHH!

What about a bald atheist? That would be a much harder sell than a black guy.

[FORD]

What about a bald atheist? That would be a much harder sell than a black guy.

I'd split the difference and go with a bald Jew, but I think Bernie Sanders wants to stay in the Senate. The only atheist politician I'm aware of in the US is a congressman in California. Pete Stark, I think is his name. And the fact that I'm not even sure of that tells you how little a chance he would have of getting elected.

[Dr. Love]

You know, the sad thing is Sanders had his 8 hour talk the other day without much mention... other political forums I frequent were having Sanders-watching-parties (exciting forums, I know) but what he had to say, all in all, was very informative and disheartening.

[FORD]

Yeah, I've actually seen some speculation on other sites that Bill & Barack staged that weird little event just to make sure the media whores didn't notice an Honest to God 9 hour filibuster from an actual servant of the people taking place a few blocks down the street. C-SPAN, of course, carried it live. Thom Hartmann aired the first hour in total (because he usually has Bernie on for the first hour on Friday taking calls from listeners anyway) and picked up bits and pieces of it for the other two hours of his show.

Aside from that, I think the media probably ignored it. The bastards.

[Seshmeister]

I'd split the difference and go with a bald Jew, but I think Bernie Sanders wants to stay in the Senate. The only atheist politician I'm aware of in the US is a congressman in California. Pete Stark, I think is his name. And the fact that I'm not even sure of that tells you how little a chance he would have of getting elected.

Do you not think that is a bit odd?

93% of the National Academy of Science in the US are not believers.

There is a good argument that Obama got caught out by that shit from Jeremiah Wright because he hardly ever actually went to that church.

[Nitro Express]

No more half black presidents !!!

I would vote for a half black president if they were really qualified for the job, I knew who they really were, and they were going to govern in a way I agreed with. The whole race thing doesn't matter to me one bit. There are plenty of black people who would make a wonderful president but unfortunately we got his hack Obama thanks to overblown media hype. This guy is over his head and should resign.

[Nitro Express]

my man mitch

jack daniel's for president!

[Nitro Express]

Bill was loving it. He still knew the reporters by name. He was back in the element he loved. He doesn't like Obama and was making the fool look bad. I would love to hear the conversation with him and Hillary later that day.

Basically Bill was showing us how the big dogs shit while the little weasel ran out of the room.

[Nitro Express]

I'd split the difference and go with a bald Jew, but I think Bernie Sanders wants to stay in the Senate. The only atheist politician I'm aware of in the US is a congressman in California. Pete Stark, I think is his name. And the fact that I'm not even sure of that tells you how little a chance he would have of getting elected.

You can't win the presidency being an atheist. I doubt the Clintons were into church at all but you have to pick one and warm a pew if you are running for president.

[ELVIS]

Bill was loving it. He still knew the reporters by name. He was back in the element he loved. He doesn't like Obama and was making the fool look bad. I would love to hear the conversation with him and Hillary later that day.

Basically Bill was showing us how the big dogs shit while the little weasel ran out of the room.

Which begs the question, why bring in Clinton ??

No way did Obama make that decision on his own...

I think Obama's advisors are stabbing him in the back...

[ELVIS]

"Slow news day" ??

"The other guy" ??

LMAO!

[ELVIS]

Man, that is a classic clip...

Christmas party...


It's over for Obama...

[ELVIS]

Like him or not, Clinton has an amazing ability to articulate a very complicated subject, all without a telepromptor...