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  • jacksmar
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    • Feb 2004
    • 3533

    President FBHO Arizona speech leaked

    In the head jackass's own words:

    The controversy right now surrounds undocumented workers - people who came here illegally, most of them crossing the border between Mexico and the United States. It's estimated at this point that we probably have 11 to 12 million undocumented workers around the country.
    The American people are a welcoming and generous people. But those who enter our country illegally, and those who employ them, disrespect the rule of law. We would be making the same mistake that Reverend Wright made in his offending sermons about America - to simplify and stereotype and amplify the negative to the point that it distorts reality. I was not raised in a particularly religious household, as undoubtedly many in the audience were. I also believe that when a gang-banger shoots indiscriminately into a crowd because he feels somebody disrespected him, we've got a moral problem. And because we live in an age where terrorists are challenging our borders, we simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, and unchecked. Americans are right to demand better border security and better enforcement of the immigration laws. Corruption is not a new problem. My own city of Chicago has been the home of some of the most corrupt local politics in American history, from patronage machines to questionable elections. In just the last year, our own U.S. Congress has seen a representative resign after taking bribes, and several others fall under investigation for using their public office for private gain. And corruption also erodes the state from the inside out, sickening the justice system until there is no justice to be found, poisoning the police forces until their presence becomes a source of insecurity rather than comfort. What's worse - corruption can also provide opportunities for those who would harness the fear and hatred of others to their agenda and ambitions. Illegal immigration is bad for illegal immigrants and bad for the workers against whom they compete.
    That is why we need a simple, foolproof, and mandatory mechanism for all employers to check the legal status of new hires. I know that dealing with the undocumented population is difficult, for practical and political reasons. But we simply cannot claim to have dealt with the problems of illegal immigration if we ignore the illegal resident population or pretend they will leave voluntarily.
    Last edited by jacksmar; 01-12-2011, 11:33 AM.
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  • bueno bob
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jul 2004
    • 22951

    #2
    Originally posted by jacksmar
    In the head jackass's own words:
    Sounds like an accurate summary of the problem to me. Is there some part you disagree with or do you just like to see yourself type "jackass"?
    Twistin' by the pool.

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    • jacksmar
      Full Member Status

      • Feb 2004
      • 3533

      #3
      Bob, these are pasted together from past FBHO speeches. FBHO would never approach the immigration debate in Arizona. He has his legal team sue the state. In short, he's a blistered pimple on a fat Mexican drug dealers meatus.

      Six black men have been killed in Chicago since the first of the year, but since they weren't on the FBHO agenda, the silence in their honor just goes on; in silence.

      What's the difference between Obama's cabinet and a penitentiary?
      One is filled with tax evaders, blackmailers and threats to society.
      The other is for housing prisoners.
      A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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      • Nickdfresh
        SUPER MODERATOR

        • Oct 2004
        • 49567

        #4
        What about the fact that the retards in your state let "illegal" Cubans in without the slightest problem?

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        • chefcraig
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Apr 2004
          • 12172

          #5
          Originally posted by Nickdfresh
          What about the fact that the retards in your state let "illegal" Cubans in without the slightest problem?
          Yet step up work toward deporting Haitians who lost their homes and livelihoods due to the earthquake that happened one year ago yesterday. And not to mention the actions of then Governor Charlie Christ, who sought to end emergency airlifts of these same folks because it might have had an impact upon the Super Bowl. I shit you not:

          Access Denied: What do Haitian Earthquake Survivors and the Super Bowl Have in Common?

          Yes, our elected officials leave much to be desired. But considering the gene pool from which they come from is the same one as those voting for them...
          Last edited by chefcraig; 01-12-2011, 08:46 PM.









          “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
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          • jacksmar
            Full Member Status

            • Feb 2004
            • 3533

            #6
            You must mean the commie lib kid. No problem with 'illegal' cubans. As usual you are so right.


            Don't change the subject Nick. FBHO is basically feeding on the carcasses of the dead hoping to shit some votes.
            There are larger issues and FBHO should be arrested for failing to perform his job.


            Obama vs. Arizona: The President is fighting a reckless war that will backfire politically

            Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/...#ixzz1As8RLYLz

            The Obama administration is getting quite the reputation for bucking the wishes of the people. From pushing through an unpopular health care bill to imposing a moratorium on offshore drilling that's costing the already-suffering gulf region precious jobs, it has refused to back down when it comes to the will of the masses.

            Now, President Obama's Justice Department has decided to sue the State of Arizona over its new law targeting illegal aliens, when a majority of the public favors the legislation, leaving many to wonder if the increasingly detached White House has gone too far.
            A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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            • sadaist
              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
              • Jul 2004
              • 11625

              #7
              Originally posted by Nickdfresh
              What about the fact that the retards in your state let "illegal" Cubans in without the slightest problem?
              Wet foot / dry foot thing right? Would we do this if Mexico was a communist nation? That was the reason I thought we did it with Cubans. Not that I agree with it.

              Hmm...I think I'd like to try some really good, authentic Cuban food.
              “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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              • chefcraig
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Apr 2004
                • 12172

                #8
                Originally posted by sadaist
                Hmm...I think I'd like to try some really good, authentic Cuban food.
                You are probably closer to it than I am. You'd be amazed at how many mom & pop places have closed here, only to be replaced by "Americanized" versions of Cuban cuisine. Seriously, these clip joints have about as much in common with authentic Cuban cooking as Taco Bell has with true Mexican food.









                “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
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                • sadaist
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 11625

                  #9
                  This speech event so far sucks my ass. I didn't like the Indian guy and his attempts at humor or unsubtle hints at a few political issues. This event just has a very weird vibe to it. A chance for people to get face time on national TV. At least it appears that way to me so far.

                  I think I see Gabrielles husband there. You just know he was forced to go. Bet $100 he would have rather stayed with his wife.
                  “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49567

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jacksmar
                    You must mean the commie lib kid. No problem with 'illegal' cubans. As usual you are so right.
                    I am right, and thanks!

                    Don't change the subject Nick. FBHO is basically feeding on the carcasses of the dead hoping to shit some votes.
                    There are larger issues and FBHO should be arrested for failing to perform his job.
                    http://edition.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS...ation.lawsuit/
                    Changing the subject? I think I'm dead on! What happens to a Florida politician who seeks to restrict "illegal" Cuban immigration?

                    Obama vs. Arizona: The President is fighting a reckless war that will backfire politically
                    Um, I don't think so in the long run...like it or not, Hispanics are a big constituency--irregardless of which ones Republicans hypocritically coddle or alienate...

                    The Obama administration is getting quite the reputation for bucking the wishes of the people. From pushing through an unpopular health care bill to imposing a moratorium on offshore drilling that's costing the already-suffering gulf region precious jobs, it has refused to back down when it comes to the will of the masses.
                    Must be why his approval rating is way up...

                    Now, President Obama's Justice Department has decided to sue the State of Arizona over its new law targeting illegal aliens, when a majority of the public favors the legislation, leaving many to wonder if the increasingly detached White House has gone too far.
                    Um, Obama's Justice Dep't is merely responding to the state's illegal encroachment on Federal jurisdiction of immigration matters. Furthermore, the law is largely bullshit and most of the aims of detaining illegals can be done with current laws on the books...

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                    • Nickdfresh
                      SUPER MODERATOR

                      • Oct 2004
                      • 49567

                      #11
                      Originally posted by sadaist
                      Wet foot / dry foot thing right? Would we do this if Mexico was a communist nation? That was the reason I thought we did it with Cubans. Not that I agree with it.

                      Hmm...I think I'd like to try some really good, authentic Cuban food.
                      Okay, so if you flee a communist nation, you can violate immigration laws. But if you are fleeing drug violence inflamed by American sourced firearms and coke swilling noses, or are simply responding to a very real economic call, it's "get the fuck out, wetback!" Right?

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                      • FORD
                        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 59637

                        #12
                        And now, for the real speech, as opposed to something a Freeper mutant pulled out of his ass.....

                        To the families of those we’ve lost; to all who called them friends; to the students of this university, the public servants gathered tonight, and the people of Tucson and Arizona: I have come here tonight as an American who, like all Americans, kneels to pray with you today, and will stand by you tomorrow.

                        There is nothing I can say that will fill the sudden hole torn in your hearts. But know this: the hopes of a nation are here tonight. We mourn with you for the fallen. We join you in your grief. And we add our faith to yours that Representative Gabrielle Giffords and the other living victims of this tragedy pull through.

                        As Scripture tells us:

                        There is a river whose streams make glad the city of God,

                        the holy place where the Most High dwells.

                        God is within her, she will not fall;

                        God will help her at break of day.




                        On Saturday morning, Gabby, her staff, and many of her constituents gathered outside a supermarket to exercise their right to peaceful assembly and free speech. They were fulfilling a central tenet of the democracy envisioned by our founders – representatives of the people answering to their constituents, so as to carry their concerns to our nation’s capital. Gabby called it “Congress on Your Corner” – just an updated version of government of and by and for the people.

                        That is the quintessentially American scene that was shattered by a gunman’s bullets. And the six people who lost their lives on Saturday – they too represented what is best in America.

                        Judge John Roll served our legal system for nearly 40 years. A graduate of this university and its law school, Judge Roll was recommended for the federal bench by John McCain twenty years ago, appointed by President George H.W. Bush, and rose to become Arizona’s chief federal judge. His colleagues described him as the hardest-working judge within the Ninth Circuit. He was on his way back from attending Mass, as he did every day, when he decided to stop by and say hi to his Representative. John is survived by his loving wife, Maureen, his three sons, and his five grandchildren.

                        George and Dorothy Morris – “Dot” to her friends – were high school sweethearts who got married and had two daughters. They did everything together, traveling the open road in their RV, enjoying what their friends called a 50-year honeymoon. Saturday morning, they went by the Safeway to hear what their Congresswoman had to say. When gunfire rang out, George, a former Marine, instinctively tried to shield his wife. Both were shot. Dot passed away.

                        A New Jersey native, Phyllis Schneck retired to Tucson to beat the snow. But in the summer, she would return East, where her world revolved around her 3 children, 7 grandchildren, and 2 year-old great-granddaughter. A gifted quilter, she’d often work under her favorite tree, or sometimes sew aprons with the logos of the Jets and the Giants to give out at the church where she volunteered. A Republican, she took a liking to Gabby, and wanted to get to know her better.

                        Dorwan and Mavy Stoddard grew up in Tucson together – about seventy years ago. They moved apart and started their own respective families, but after both were widowed they found their way back here, to, as one of Mavy’s daughters put it, “be boyfriend and girlfriend again.” When they weren’t out on the road in their motor home, you could find them just up the road, helping folks in need at the Mountain Avenue Church of Christ. A retired construction worker, Dorwan spent his spare time fixing up the church along with their dog, Tux. His final act of selflessness was to dive on top of his wife, sacrificing his life for hers.

                        Everything Gabe Zimmerman did, he did with passion – but his true passion was people. As Gabby’s outreach director, he made the cares of thousands of her constituents his own, seeing to it that seniors got the Medicare benefits they had earned, that veterans got the medals and care they deserved, that government was working for ordinary folks. He died doing what he loved – talking with people and seeing how he could help. Gabe is survived by his parents, Ross and Emily, his brother, Ben, and his fiancée, Kelly, who he planned to marry next year.

                        And then there is nine year-old Christina Taylor Green. Christina was an A student, a dancer, a gymnast, and a swimmer. She often proclaimed that she wanted to be the first woman to play in the major leagues, and as the only girl on her Little League team, no one put it past her. She showed an appreciation for life uncommon for a girl her age, and would remind her mother, “We are so blessed. We have the best life.” And she’d pay those blessings back by participating in a charity that helped children who were less fortunate.

                        Our hearts are broken by their sudden passing. Our hearts are broken – and yet, our hearts also have reason for fullness.

                        Our hearts are full of hope and thanks for the 13 Americans who survived the shooting, including the congresswoman many of them went to see on Saturday. I have just come from the University Medical Center, just a mile from here, where our friend Gabby courageously fights to recover even as we speak. And I can tell you this – she knows we’re here and she knows we love her and she knows that we will be rooting for her throughout what will be a difficult journey.

                        And our hearts are full of gratitude for those who saved others. We are grateful for Daniel Hernandez, a volunteer in Gabby’s office who ran through the chaos to minister to his boss, tending to her wounds to keep her alive. We are grateful for the men who tackled the gunman as he stopped to reload. We are grateful for a petite 61 year-old, Patricia Maisch, who wrestled away the killer’s ammunition, undoubtedly saving some lives. And we are grateful for the doctors and nurses and emergency medics who worked wonders to heal those who’d been hurt.

                        These men and women remind us that heroism is found not only on the fields of battle. They remind us that heroism does not require special training or physical strength. Heroism is here, all around us, in the hearts of so many of our fellow citizens, just waiting to be summoned – as it was on Saturday morning.

                        Their actions, their selflessness, also pose a challenge to each of us. It raises the question of what, beyond the prayers and expressions of concern, is required of us going forward. How can we honor the fallen? How can we be true to their memory?

                        You see, when a tragedy like this strikes, it is part of our nature to demand explanations – to try to impose some order on the chaos, and make sense out of that which seems senseless. Already we’ve seen a national conversation commence, not only about the motivations behind these killings, but about everything from the merits of gun safety laws to the adequacy of our mental health systems. Much of this process, of debating what might be done to prevent such tragedies in the future, is an essential ingredient in our exercise of self-government.

                        But at a time when our discourse has become so sharply polarized – at a time when we are far too eager to lay the blame for all that ails the world at the feet of those who think differently than we do – it’s important for us to pause for a moment and make sure that we are talking with each other in a way that heals, not a way that wounds.

                        Scripture tells us that there is evil in the world, and that terrible things happen for reasons that defy human understanding. In the words of Job, “when I looked for light, then came darkness.” Bad things happen, and we must guard against simple explanations in the aftermath.

                        For the truth is that none of us can know exactly what triggered this vicious attack. None of us can know with any certainty what might have stopped those shots from being fired, or what thoughts lurked in the inner recesses of a violent man’s mind.

                        So yes, we must examine all the facts behind this tragedy. We cannot and will not be passive in the face of such violence. We should be willing to challenge old assumptions in order to lessen the prospects of violence in the future.

                        But what we can’t do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on one another. As we discuss these issues, let each of us do so with a good dose of humility. Rather than pointing fingers or assigning blame, let us use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations, to listen to each other more carefully, to sharpen our instincts for empathy, and remind ourselves of all the ways our hopes and dreams are bound together.

                        After all, that’s what most of us do when we lose someone in our family – especially if the loss is unexpected. We’re shaken from our routines, and forced to look inward. We reflect on the past. Did we spend enough time with an aging parent, we wonder. Did we express our gratitude for all the sacrifices they made for us? Did we tell a spouse just how desperately we loved them, not just once in awhile but every single day?

                        So sudden loss causes us to look backward – but it also forces us to look forward, to reflect on the present and the future, on the manner in which we live our lives and nurture our relationships with those who are still with us. We may ask ourselves if we’ve shown enough kindness and generosity and compassion to the people in our lives. Perhaps we question whether we are doing right by our children, or our community, and whether our priorities are in order. We recognize our own mortality, and are reminded that in the fleeting time we have on this earth, what matters is not wealth, or status, or power, or fame – but rather, how well we have loved, and what small part we have played in bettering the lives of others.

                        That process of reflection, of making sure we align our values with our actions – that, I believe, is what a tragedy like this requires. For those who were harmed, those who were killed – they are part of our family, an American family 300 million strong. We may not have known them personally, but we surely see ourselves in them. In George and Dot, in Dorwan and Mavy, we sense the abiding love we have for our own husbands, our own wives, our own life partners. Phyllis – she’s our mom or grandma; Gabe our brother or son. In Judge Roll, we recognize not only a man who prized his family and doing his job well, but also a man who embodied America’s fidelity to the law. In Gabby, we see a reflection of our public spiritedness, that desire to participate in that sometimes frustrating, sometimes contentious, but always necessary and never-ending process to form a more perfect union.

                        And in Christina…in Christina we see all of our children. So curious, so trusting, so energetic and full of magic.

                        So deserving of our love.

                        And so deserving of our good example. If this tragedy prompts reflection and debate, as it should, let’s make sure it’s worthy of those we have lost. Let’s make sure it’s not on the usual plane of politics and point scoring and pettiness that drifts away with the next news cycle.

                        The loss of these wonderful people should make every one of us strive to be better in our private lives – to be better friends and neighbors, co-workers and parents. And if, as has been discussed in recent days, their deaths help usher in more civility in our public discourse, let’s remember that it is not because a simple lack of civility caused this tragedy, but rather because only a more civil and honest public discourse can help us face up to our challenges as a nation, in a way that would make them proud. It should be because we want to live up to the example of public servants like John Roll and Gabby Giffords, who knew first and foremost that we are all Americans, and that we can question each other’s ideas without questioning each other’s love of country, and that our task, working together, is to constantly widen the circle of our concern so that we bequeath the American dream to future generations.

                        I believe we can be better. Those who died here, those who saved lives here – they help me believe. We may not be able to stop all evil in the world, but I know that how we treat one another is entirely up to us. I believe that for all our imperfections, we are full of decency and goodness, and that the forces that divide us are not as strong as those that unite us.

                        That’s what I believe, in part because that’s what a child like Christina Taylor Green believed. Imagine: here was a young girl who was just becoming aware of our democracy; just beginning to understand the obligations of citizenship; just starting to glimpse the fact that someday she too might play a part in shaping her nation’s future. She had been elected to her student council; she saw public service as something exciting, something hopeful. She was off to meet her congresswoman, someone she was sure was good and important and might be a role model. She saw all this through the eyes of a child, undimmed by the cynicism or vitriol that we adults all too often just take for granted.

                        I want us to live up to her expectations. I want our democracy to be as good as she imagined it. All of us – we should do everything we can to make sure this country lives up to our children’s expectations.

                        Christina was given to us on September 11th, 2001, one of 50 babies born that day to be pictured in a book called “Faces of Hope.” On either side of her photo in that book were simple wishes for a child’s life. “I hope you help those in need,” read one. “I hope you know all of the words to the National Anthem and sing it with your hand over your heart. I hope you jump in rain puddles.”

                        If there are rain puddles in heaven, Christina is jumping in them today. And here on Earth, we place our hands over our hearts, and commit ourselves as Americans to forging a country that is forever worthy of her gentle, happy spirit.

                        May God bless and keep those we’ve lost in restful and eternal peace. May He love and watch over the survivors. And may He bless the United States of America.
                        Eat Us And Smile

                        Cenk For America 2024!!

                        Justice Democrats


                        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                        • Jesus Christ
                          Veteran
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 2434

                          #13
                          We usually do not have puddles in Heaven, as there is no need for rain here. But I suppose I could maketh some puddles for Christina, as thy President hath suggested.

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                          • sadaist
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 11625

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                            Okay, so if you flee a communist nation, you can violate immigration laws. But if you are fleeing drug violence inflamed by American sourced firearms and coke swilling noses, or are simply responding to a very real economic call, it's "get the fuck out, wetback!" Right?

                            I didn't say I agreed with it. But yeah, that's pretty much the US policy in a nutshell when it comes to Cuba & Mexico.
                            “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                            • jacksmar
                              Full Member Status

                              • Feb 2004
                              • 3533

                              #15
                              And now, for the real speech: Drama Queen line, followed by pablum, followed by ME, followed by I, followed by I want, followed by lie about prayer.

                              Only part missing is video of Ubama and followers firing up a cig.

                              They'll have to fumigate that arena to get the stench of Ubama bullshit cleared or just have FORD and one of his 'truthers' bomb the place.
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