Stalin-Style U.S. Public Education

[kwame k]

Broke assed rednecks ??

is that like a broke ass ni**er ??

....or are you finally admitting you're a....Brokeback Mountain Man!!!!!

[Seshmeister]

Chuck Norris? Seriously???

That fucking moron wants right wing distorted religion taught in PUBLIC schools......

The eyes see, the mouth moves but Mr Brain has long since departed.

If these people get their way the US is finished. Chuck Norris, education expert??? :D

And who should you go to for karate lessons, Gore Vidal?

[jhale667]

Broke assed rednecks ??

is that like a broke ass ni**er ??

Add inbreeding and a laughable superiority complex...

[ashstralia]

You pick projects that benefit the country long-term and put people to work. If we are so hell bent on nation building in war zones let's start with Detroit.

bravo sir!!!

[BigBadBrian]

Yep. We need to raise BOTH Roosevelts from the dead.

A RINO and a socialist who got credit for doing nothing.

[BigBadBrian]

What Ford wants is anti-trust laws and corporate regulation. He's a free market guy but wants the playing field leveled. We all do.

Yes, we all want a level playing field.

FORD does not. He's made that abundantly clear. Unfortunately, his "level" slants dramatically to the left, in favor of unions and labor.

Unions are one of the primary reasons labor has gone overseas.

FORD believes companies shouldn't be able to donate to politicians but Unions should be able to.

If you ask me, neither one should be able to and political donations by an individual should be capped at $500 every 2 years TOTAL, meaning a total for all candidates whether local or national. once a person donates $500, they are done. Unions and companies SHOULD NOT be allowed to donate at all, either themselves or on behalf of their workers/members.

[FORD]

A RINO and a socialist who got credit for doing nothing.

He defeated fascism, in Europe, Japan, AND in America. That's hardly nothing.

[FORD]

Yes, we all want a level playing field.

FORD does not. He's made that abundantly clear. Unfortunately, his "level" slants dramatically to the left, in favor of unions and labor.

Unions are one of the primary reasons labor has gone overseas.

FORD believes companies shouldn't be able to donate to politicians but Unions should be able to.

If you ask me, neither one should be able to and political donations by an individual should be capped at $500 every 2 years TOTAL, meaning a total for all candidates whether local or national. once a person donates $500, they are done. Unions and companies SHOULD NOT be allowed to donate at all, either themselves or on behalf of their workers/members.

So you support abolition of the Shittyzens United injustice, and establishing public financing of elections?

Great. But even taking elections out of it, Unions are the only ones who keep greedy corporatist pieces of shit from paying everyone minimum wage or less.

It's not the unions who passed NAFTA and all the other shit. My dad (Machinists Union) and I had a huge argument back in 1992 over that. I knew that he and Perot were right about it, but I didn't think Perot could beat Bush Sr, and 12 consecutive years of the BCE was enough for me. It should have been enough that nobody ever voted for one of them again, but a lot of folks have horrible memories, I guess.

[Nitro Express]

If you ask me, neither one should be able to and political donations by an individual should be capped at $500 every 2 years TOTAL, meaning a total for all candidates whether local or national. once a person donates $500, they are done. Unions and companies SHOULD NOT be allowed to donate at all, either themselves or on behalf of their workers/members.

I like your idea. Level the field on campaign donations. There was a time for unions 100 years ago. Now they are just as corrupt as the corporations they are claiming to fight. The best employers I worked for were all non union. I belonged to two unions and never got anything from it.

[Nitro Express]

Here's how we turn the economy around quickly. We nationalize the Federal Reserve Bank. We let the big banks who have screwed us go bankrupt. We bail the legitimate deposits out with the FDIC and let all the derivatives fail with the banks. That wipes out all that debt they are trying to saddle us for generations with. Then the nationalized Federal Reserve Bank issues zero interest loans to projects and companies for productive projects. If you are going to improve the roads, you get a zero interest loan. If you are going to replace a bridge you get a zero interest loan. Then have stipulations in the loans that all employees have to be documented US citizens.

Do that and you would have people looking for employees all over the place and it would turn the economy around. Then once that is going you start backing the currency with commodities again.

[Nitro Express]

This is pretty much what the Chinese did with their bailout. What Bush and Obama did was bail out the speculators who are now getting zero percent interest loans and driving prices up with their speculative manipulation. They are cutting loans to farmers to drive food prices up because they are betting on high food prices. If those zero percent loans go to productive means instead, the food supply increases and prices come down and more and more jobs appear. Simple as that.

[FORD]

Here's how we turn the economy around quickly. We nationalize the Federal Reserve Bank. We let the big banks who have screwed us go bankrupt. We bail the legitimate deposits out with the FDIC and let all the derivatives fail with the banks. That wipes out all that debt they are trying to saddle us for generations with. Then the nationalized Federal Reserve Bank issues zero interest loans to projects and companies for productive projects. If you are going to improve the roads, you get a zero interest loan. If you are going to replace a bridge you get a zero interest loan. Then have stipulations in the loans that all employees have to be documented US citizens.

Do that and you would have people looking for employees all over the place and it would turn the economy around. Then once that is going you start backing the currency with commodities again.

Sounds like a great idea, but a bit off topic for this thread. If there's a moderator lurking, this would make a great split into a "spinoff",

[Nitro Express]

But there are all these stereotypes both sides believe in. My uncle was a Democrat union boss. He believed in that because he believed in a living wage and workers rights. He was far from lazy and hated lazy people. There are always those who are going to abuse the union so they can sit on their asses and get paid to do so. My uncle hated those assholes with a passion.

So there are two different mind sets in unions. A) We need unions for a living wage and B) Let's see what we can get away with and why work when you can force the employer to pay you?

[ELVIS]

Living wage ??

Is that what causes a manufacturer to close shop and move overseas ??

[FORD]

No, shitty trade laws which enable corporate greed is what allowed that.