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  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    Muslim American groups, not Rep. Pete King, are the ones fomenting hysteria with hear



    Never in my entire career in Washington have I encountered the hype and scare tactics of those opposing the hearings into Islamic radicalization by Rep. Pete King. A classic example was a headline on MSNBC.com: "Inquiry by congressional committee looks like inquisition to many Muslims."

    The line of attack is now familiar: If King (R-L.I.) were truly interested in violent extremism, his hearings would focus on a wide range of groups that wreak havoc on America, including neo-Nazis and others; by focusing solely on Muslim extremism, the argument goes, he is betraying his bias.

    This is utterly ridiculous. Our organization, the Investigative Project on Terrorism, recently did an analysis of all terrorism convictions based on statistics released by the Justice Department. These stats show that more than 80% of all convictions tied to international terrorist groups and homegrown terrorism since 9/11 involve defendants driven by a radical Islamist agenda. Though Muslims represent less than 1% of the American population, they constitute defendants in 186 of the 228 cases the Justice Department lists.

    The figures confirm that there is a disproportionate problem of Islamic militancy and terrorism among the American Muslim population.

    This is not to say that, on a percentage basis, American Muslims tend to be violent or extremist. To the contrary. Those involved in terrorism are a tiny sliver of the overall Muslim American population.

    But one ought to be able to focus on a very real problem - homegrown terrorism fueled by Muslim extremism - without being accused of painting the entire U.S. Muslim population with a broad brush.

    The real underlying story here is how the self-anointed leadership of the Muslim community - groups like the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the Islamic Society of North America and the Muslim American Society - are the ones responsible for instilling panic into the Muslim community by suggesting that these hearings will lead to "hate crimes" against Muslims.

    That canard has been used by these groups for years in their attempts to intimidate the media, commentators and critics of radical Islam from truly analyzing the role of these groups and others in radicalizing their constituents in the American Muslim community. The documents showing the creation of these groups with the assistance of the Muslim Brotherhood were introduced into evidence in the trial of the Holy Land Foundation for Relief and Development several years ago. At the trial, the Council on American-Islamic Relations was described by an FBI expert as a front for Hamas, and was also listed, together with the Islamic Society of North America, as an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land Foundation indictments.

    Groups such as these routinely play the "Islamophobia" card, and get attention for doing so in the mainstream media, in order to silence criticism of Islamic radicalism. In fact, these very same groups, just like the Obama administration, categorically refuse to even use the term "radical Islam" in order to excise the term from the American vernacular.

    Critics have taken issue with King's focus on one religious minority. But, in fact, in previous years, Congress has held numerous hearings into various ethnic subcultures that have spawned illegalities - including the Italian mob, Hispanic drug cartels, black and white prison gangs, white racists and neo-Nazis.

    Headlines about King producing "panic" in the rank-and-file Muslim community are nonsense. The only panic is that being strategically fomented by groups with an interest in spreading fear. They, together with their mainstream media friends, have falsely alleged that: one, there is a war against Islam by the United States, and two, the FBI is secretly instigating Islamic terrorism by use of informants.

    These are dangerous fictions.


  • bueno bob
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Jul 2004
    • 22951

    #2
    Originally posted by ELVIS


    Never in my entire career in Washington have I encountered the hype and scare tactics
    Hype and scare tactics? Hypocritical much? How's that McCarthyism working out for you?

    Fucking garbage comment.

    Originally posted by ELVIS
    of those opposing the hearings into Islamic radicalization by Rep. Pete King. A classic example was a headline on MSNBC.com: "Inquiry by congressional committee looks like inquisition to many Muslims."
    Gee, an inquisition? Hey, what is it called again when you're generalizing an entire group of people based on their religion?

    This is a fucking witch-hunt and it's not even a contestable debate over the definitions of it.

    Originally posted by ELVIS
    The line of attack is now familiar: If King (R-L.I.) were truly interested in violent extremism, his hearings would focus on a wide range of groups that wreak havoc on America, including neo-Nazis and others; by focusing solely on Muslim extremism, the argument goes, he is betraying his bias.
    Maybe the line of attack is familiar because it's the fucking TRUTH. Who knows?

    Originally posted by ELVIS
    This is utterly ridiculous.
    BULL
    FUCKING
    SHIT!!!

    Originally posted by ELVIS
    Our organization, the Investigative Project on Terrorism, recently did an analysis
    "Our organization", meaning the results are basically anything you people fucking want them to be and therefore not open to debate.

    If it's Islam, it must be bad!

    Originally posted by ELVIS
    of all terrorism convictions based on statistics released by the Justice Department. These stats show that more than 80% of all convictions tied to international terrorist groups and homegrown terrorism since 9/11 involve defendants driven by a radical Islamist agenda. Though Muslims represent less than 1% of the American population, they constitute defendants in 186 of the 228 cases the Justice Department lists.
    Gee, who were we in a mad dash to prosecute after 9-11 over fucking ANY crime, perceived or imaginary?

    Go fucking figure. No wonder your bullshit "statistics" match up.

    Originally posted by ELVIS
    The figures confirm that there is a disproportionate problem of Islamic militancy and terrorism among the American Muslim population.
    Only because they want them to.

    Originally posted by ELVIS
    This is not to say that, on a percentage basis, American Muslims tend to be violent or extremist. To the contrary.
    O Rly? Sure had me fooled by the current witchhunt going on.

    Originally posted by ELVIS
    Those involved in terrorism are a tiny sliver of the overall Muslim American population.
    "But hey, why not generalize ALL of them? It's easier that way."

    Originally posted by ELVIS
    But one ought to be able to focus on a very real problem - homegrown terrorism fueled by Muslim extremism - without being accused of painting the entire U.S. Muslim population with a broad brush.
    Unless, you know, that's what you're ACTUALLY DOING.

    Originally posted by ELVIS
    The real underlying story here is how the self-anointed leadership of the Muslim community - groups like the Council on American-Islamic Relations, the Islamic Society of North America and the Muslim American Society - are the ones responsible for instilling panic into the Muslim community by suggesting that these hearings will lead to "hate crimes" against Muslims.
    Oh, I see. So the U.S. government taking direct or indirect stances on Muslim practices as a religion after 9-11 NEVER EVER lead to hate crimes against Muslims, hmm?

    Who the fuck wrote this piece of shit? Some fucking northern Idaho NRA nutbag with a home schooling IQ of 65?

    I would go on, but it's simply a waste of my time. This so-called "argument" in favor of this ongoing witchhunt against American Muslims is as flimsy and transparent as the agenda behind it. What a crock of worthless shit. I puked last week and it was a more convincing argument than this Young Republican mentality cockamamie horse crap.
    Twistin' by the pool.

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 59558

      #3


      Yeah, this guy sounds scary as fuck doesn't he? So does the man he's talking about (a "hero" of your so called "war on terra" by Chimpy's own definition)
      Eat Us And Smile

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      • jhale667
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Aug 2004
        • 20929

        #4
        If this was anything OTHER than a bullshit witch-hunt designed to further scare the sh*t out of the "great unwashed" segment of the nation that is the Teabagged Party, they'd also be investigating ALL domestic terrorism; like CHRISTIAN terrorists (Dr. Tiller's assassination, anyone?), and the aforementioned Neo-Nazi scumbags - but it isn't. It's absolutely disgusting. McCarthyism IS back...
        Originally posted by conmee
        If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

        That is all.

        Icon.
        Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
        I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


        Originally posted by Isaac R.
        Then it's really true??

        The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

        OMFG...who in their right mind...???
        Originally posted by eddie78
        I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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        • bueno bob
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Jul 2004
          • 22951

          #5
          Well, that being the case, why don't we take a GOOD, LONG, HARD look at the amount of damage to people's personal lives, welfare and property that Christianity has done since, oh...the 1920's? I mean, we won't say that they're ALL bad, we'll just make a case example of a few "bad apples" that are organized into terrorist activities - maybe abortion clinic bombing or doctor murdering and, I don't know, cases of sexual abuse on young children in the Catholic church?

          Anybody gonna line up for THAT little bit of "investigation"?

          You know, the more I think about it, the more I think that the sudden surge against unions in multiple states, McCarthyism against Muslims, what's going on in Michigan with one person seemingly being able to dissolve entire townships and governments in the case of "financial distress" and the ongoing attacks on social & domestic services by the Republicans looks like a coordinated assault from uber-rich trillionaire white assholes against, well, basically everybody that ISN'T them. The government's just being used as a tool to make it happen. Republicans specifically because Democrats and Independents aren't so fucking stupid to follow in line and still actually GIVE A SHIT about the middle class and believe in equality.
          Twistin' by the pool.

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          • Blaze
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            • Jan 2009
            • 4371

            #6
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            • Nitro Express
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 32942

              #7
              Originally posted by jhale667
              If this was anything OTHER than a bullshit witch-hunt designed to further scare the sh*t out of the "great unwashed" segment of the nation that is the Teabagged Party, they'd also be investigating ALL domestic terrorism; like CHRISTIAN terrorists (Dr. Tiller's assassination, anyone?), and the aforementioned Neo-Nazi scumbags - but it isn't. It's absolutely disgusting. McCarthyism IS back...
              It's pretty obvious the whole terrorism problem has been exaggerated by our own government. The whole situation was used to usher in fascism and crack down on the American people. I don't buy the scare tactics. They need a distraction to cover up all their corruption and failures that keep surfacing every day. We need to keep our focus on the politician rats. They are the real terrorists and some of them need a one way trip to Gitmo.
              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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              • Nitro Express
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 32942

                #8
                Muslims have done far less damage to the USA than bankers and politicians. They have killed millions, spent trillions, and made millions homeless and jobless.
                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                • LoungeMachine
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 32576

                  #9
                  Originally posted by ELVIS

                  _christian_american_groups_not_rep_pete_king_are_t he_ones_fomenting_hysteria



                  There, fixed it for you

                  Originally posted by Kristy
                  Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                  Originally posted by cadaverdog
                  I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #10
                    What a pussy...

                    Go back to facebook...

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                    • jhale667
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 20929

                      #11
                      This from the guy with no friends...

                      Originally posted by ELVIS
                      What a pussy...

                      Go back to facebook...
                      STFU Mangina.

                      Here's an idea: Why don't you go meet an actual Muslim...you don't know any, do you?
                      Originally posted by conmee
                      If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                      That is all.

                      Icon.
                      Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                      I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                      Originally posted by Isaac R.
                      Then it's really true??

                      The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                      OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                      Originally posted by eddie78
                      I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                      • LoungeMachine
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 32576

                        #12
                        I actually work for one.

                        One of the nicest, hardworking, honest, person you'd ever meet.

                        Elvira is just xenophobic racist cunt.
                        Originally posted by Kristy
                        Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                        Originally posted by cadaverdog
                        I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                        • LoungeMachine
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 32576

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ELVIS
                          What a pussy...

                          Go back to facebook...


                          I'm really sorry that my real friends are more interesting and intelligent than what you post here.... but on the GOOD side many of my friends here are also on FB as well....



                          Dont be jealous

                          Originally posted by Kristy
                          Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                          Originally posted by cadaverdog
                          I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                          • jacksmar
                            Full Member Status

                            • Feb 2004
                            • 3533

                            #14
                            Duplicate deleted.
                            Last edited by jacksmar; 03-11-2011, 03:16 PM.
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                            • jacksmar
                              Full Member Status

                              • Feb 2004
                              • 3533

                              #15
                              Ellison is a funny Muslim mother fucker. He's also connected himself to a known commie lib. And his backing comes from known commie libs.

                              Fucking scared cunt Repukes won't expose his commie lib bullshit.
                              Peter King is another bullshit poser. Another giant waste of fucking money.

                              Dumb asses never learn.
                              A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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