Ron Paul and the Judge: Obama’s Illegal War

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  • ELVIS
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    • Dec 2003
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    Ron Paul and the Judge: Obama’s Illegal War




  • kwame k
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Feb 2008
    • 11302

    #2
    Oh, for fuck's sake.........when your side engages in an actual illegal war you have zero problem with it, when the other side's guy does a UN sponsored enforcement of a no fly zone, you freak out.

    War.....what war? When are the ground troops going in?

    We lived up to our agreement with the UN charter as did many other countries.......even the United Arab Emirates are on board.

    Geez....an Administration totally lies about the pretext of invading a sovereign nation and it's OK.......sending a few planes/ships to stop a dictator from being able to bomb his own people.....people BTW, that are marching and violently protesting for freedom! Not a country that had to have a gun held to their head and have democracy forced down their throats, like Iraq!

    There a tons of stuff to be pissed at Obama about..........pick something that actually is rooted in fact.

    Obama'a war.........did Rush or BecKKK say that first?
    Originally posted by vandeleur
    E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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    • ELVIS
      Banned
      • Dec 2003
      • 44120

      #3
      It is illegal and they are lying about why we are there...

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      • ELVIS
        Banned
        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        #4
        BTW, if you're talking to me, I don't have a side...

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        • kwame k
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Feb 2008
          • 11302

          #5
          Originally posted by ELVIS
          It is illegal and they are lying about why we are there...
          No...it's not illegal and so far we've only done air strikes.....like damn near every President has done in the last 30+ years.
          Originally posted by vandeleur
          E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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          • kwame k
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Feb 2008
            • 11302

            #6
            Originally posted by ELVIS
            BTW, if you're talking to me, I don't have a side...
            Yeah...I'm waiting to see what happens after the air strikes, myself.
            Originally posted by vandeleur
            E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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            • ELVIS
              Banned
              • Dec 2003
              • 44120

              #7
              Well, the national guard are being called on for Lybia...

              But there was no congressional authorization for Obama to do this...

              He went to the UN...and now the so called "coalition" are backing out...

              And if you think we went in there for humanitarian reasons, you're sorely mistaken...

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              • kwame k
                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                • Feb 2008
                • 11302

                #8
                No, I have zero illusions of a President doing anything for humanitarian reasons........we're supposed to hand over the enforcing of the no fly zone soon, just to who is the question.

                Like I said, I'm waiting to see what happens next before getting into a debate about this........if we just threw some bombs at them to help the people gain their independence, cool. If it turns into something else then.........
                Originally posted by vandeleur
                E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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                • ELVIS
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 44120

                  #9
                  If Lybia didn't have that sweet crude the US wouldn't have looked with the slightest bit of interest...

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32942

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ELVIS
                    Well, the national guard are being called on for Lybia...

                    But there was no congressional authorization for Obama to do this...

                    He went to the UN...and now the so called "coalition" are backing out...

                    And if you think we went in there for humanitarian reasons, you're sorely mistaken...
                    We have a rogue president and the military should just tell him to go to hell. Things are that bad.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Nitro Express
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 32942

                      #11
                      We lived up to our agreement with the UN charter as did many other countries.......even the United Arab Emirates are on board.
                      Yeah but our presidents violate the US Constitution by going to war without the US Congress declaring war. The president can't declare war only congress can. I'm sorry but if you don't think bombing a country is an act of war then what is? Hell, lets just nuke them then or hit them with biological/chemical weapons because if it's delivered by airplane or missile it's not war.

                      I'm tired of these rogue presidents with all their executive orders and non elected agency heads doing whatever the hell they want violating the law of the land and the proper political process.
                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • lesfunk
                        Full Member Status

                        • Jan 2004
                        • 3583

                        #12
                        Ron Paul speaks sense
                        http://gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=4448212&t=o GIFSoup

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                        • lesfunk
                          Full Member Status

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 3583

                          #13
                          Obama's attack on Libya is an impeachable offense. At least Bush got his lies in order and got Congressional approval before his illegal war.
                          Remember, kids...American interventionism is why the world hates Americans UNLESS the president's a democrat. ...or at least has a D next to his name
                          http://gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=4448212&t=o GIFSoup

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32942

                            #14
                            Clinton got impeached and it did nothing. A president can be impeached but still stay in office with all his powers. There are additional steps to remove them from office. In extreme cases the speaker of the house can send the sargent of arms to arrest a US president if they have gone totally nuts.

                            What we are seeing is the early stages of the US Congress being replaced by the United Nations. We need to stomp this shit hard and stomp it now. Nobody has stood up and too many people have just gone along with it to get a pay check and not to rock the boat and that is what has brought us to this horrible situation. If we do nothing we lose big time. They will steal everything. So we might as well go out stirring major shit because the powers that be are expecting our greed and stupidity to make it possible to close escrow on US sovereignty.

                            It was really clever what they did with the military. They made college tuition so expensive people had to sign up for military service to afford college. They made it seem like the National Guard was a safe place to be. Well, the National Guard became the new draft and people are dependent on that money because of the job situation. Also, most military people are in debt up to their ears. So they serve because there are no other options.

                            During Vietnam students didn't need the military and when the draft came all hell broke loose. But you didn't have students in debt to loan shark banks and Uncle Sam waiving money in front of their faces. America has been bought.
                            Last edited by Nitro Express; 03-23-2011, 02:35 PM.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • PETE'S BROTHER
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 12678

                              #15
                              i was under the impression the US was there to launch missiles and the french were flyin' their planes for the no-fly zone and air combat. we already lost one plane of ours, i'm afraid boots will hit the ground soon.
                              Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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