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  • Kristy
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Aug 2004
    • 16743

    NATO Nailed It!

    Reporting from Benghazi, Libya


    "Libyan leader Moammar Kadafi survived a NATO airstrike in the capital that killed one of his sons and three of his grandchildren, a government spokesman said on state television Saturday.

    Killed was Saif al Arab Kadafi, 29, said government spokesman Moussa Ibrahim. He said the Libyan leader and his wife were in the house at the time, but that both survived the North Atlantic Treaty Organization strike.

    "Western nation crusader aggression against the Libyan nation continued and proved again that it has no moral foundation," Ibrahim said in Tripoli.

    State television showed scenes of heavy damage to a structure, but it did not identify the site as Kadafi's sprawling compound in the capital.

    People were seen walking through the rubble and, at one point, handling what appeared to be a missile, covered in dust and debris.

    The dead son was among the least known of Kadafi's children. He was described on state television as a student, and was reported to have spent considerable time in Germany.

    The attack seems sure to raise more questions about NATO strikes on Tripoli.

    A United Nations resolution has approved NATO airstrikes as a means to save civilian lives in Libya, where rebels have revolted against Kadafi's four decades of rule. But the Libyan government has condemned the strikes on Kadafi's compound as an assassination attempt."

    Doesn't seem like an "attempt" to me. If anything, this is a bizarre success. NATO can't find ol' Moammar himself so they went after his family. I'm not sure what to feel about this. Seems we [NATO] are drawing up the lines and rules only to cross and break them at will. This shit is really starting to get scary
  • sadaist
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Jul 2004
    • 11625

    #2
    We sure have strayed quite far from simply 'enforcing a no-fly zone' to protect the citizens.
    “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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    • Kristy
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 16743

      #3
      Now we're just implementing organized murder at will - in the name of democracy, of course.

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      • Diamondjimi
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • May 2004
        • 12086

        #4
        If Libya didn't have a single drop of oil under it, it wouldn't be of any interest to anyone....
        Trolls take heed...LOG OUT & FUCK OFF!!!

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        • Nickdfresh
          SUPER MODERATOR

          • Oct 2004
          • 49567

          #5
          Originally posted by Kristy
          Now we're just implementing organized murder at will - in the name of democracy, of course.
          Oh fucking please....

          Simpleton moral vanities are so boring and cliche, especially ignoring the fact that Gaddouchies forces have systematically targeted innocent civilians as state policy. In the words of RAF Bomber Command General (and a bit of a prick) Sir Arthur Harris, "he who sows the wind shall reap the whirlwind."
          Last edited by Nickdfresh; 05-01-2011, 04:48 AM.

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          • Kristy
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 16743

            #6
            Oh fucking please yourself. This has nothing to do with "moral vanity." What NATO is really doing if you would wake the fuck up is systemically targeting people more than what Momaar could ever achieve. I never said any of the Ghaddafi clan were innocent but when you purposefully kill children your idiotic World War Two quote doesn't mean shit.

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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49567

              #7
              Originally posted by Kristy
              Oh fucking please yourself.
              Well, sometimes we all get stuck in a pinch and have to .

              This has nothing to do with "moral vanity." What NATO is really doing if you would wake the fuck up is systemically targeting people more than what Momaar could ever achieve.
              Oh, by all means feel free to compare precision attacks on a command and control facility bellowing orders to field troops that include using tank fire, artillery, and snipers against completely military targets such as orphanages, hospitals, playgrounds, schools, and unarmed protesters (initially)...

              I never said any of the Ghaddafi clan were innocent but when you purposefully kill children your idiotic World War Two quote doesn't mean shit.
              I'm so glad you're not mounting a defense of a war-criminal issuing command orders akin to ethnic cleansing and baby-genocide. And they weren't "purposefully targeting children" in WWII, the idea was to "area bomb" around targets due to the inaccuracy of the bombing technology (as in aiming them at night) then. Not my favorite tactic as Harris was shown to be somewhat of a fuckwit...

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              • jacksmar
                Full Member Status

                • Feb 2004
                • 3533

                #8
                Hard to reply from your heels Nick?
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                • Kristy
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 16743

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nickdfresh

                  Oh, by all means feel free to compare precision attacks on a command and control facility bellowing orders to field troops that include using tank fire, artillery, and snipers against completely military targets such as orphanages, hospitals, playgrounds, schools, and unarmed protesters (initially)...
                  That doesn't justify NATO's strike. Something in this "war" has become lost in the translation. Besides the statement that the first causality in any war is truth this doesn't seem like a "peacekeeping" or "humanity" mission at all to me. It's specific targeting of an individual whether they are innocent or not. It's is/was a sterile assassination attempt. NATO is clearly sending a message with this in that you don't fuck with those who want your oil. Sounds a bit conspiracy/paranoia I know but who is really regulating this war? I'm siding with Russia on that what NATO did was a disproportionate use of force and there are much better ways of cutting the head off of a snake.

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                  • chefcraig
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 12172

                    #10
                    Originally posted by jacksmar
                    Hard to reply from your heels Nick?
                    I soooo need to either clean my glasses or just start using my other pair. I read the above as "Hard to reply when you're wearing heels Nick?", and given the overall context, it still made perfect sense.









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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 59635

                      #11
                      Doesn't Jacksmar play in a KISS tribute band? Probably not someone who should criticize others' footwear, if that's the case.
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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49567

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jacksmar
                        Hard to reply from your heels Nick?
                        You were trying to say something?

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49567

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Kristy
                          That doesn't justify NATO's strike. Something in this "war" has become lost in the translation. Besides the statement that the first causality in any war is truth this doesn't seem like a "peacekeeping" or "humanity" mission at all to me. It's specific targeting of an individual whether they are innocent or not. It's is/was a sterile assassination attempt. NATO is clearly sending a message with this in that you don't fuck with those who want your oil. Sounds a bit conspiracy/paranoia I know but who is really regulating this war? I'm siding with Russia on that what NATO did was a disproportionate use of force and there are much better ways of cutting the head off of a snake.

                          What's the difference between "assassination" and targeting command and control? You're sort of implying the opposite of what you intend here. That somehow it's okay for NATO to bomb low level Libyan "loyalists" troops (who received preferential treatment), and mercenaries from Africa, over the elites that hired and payed them? What sense does that make?

                          BTW, I might remind everyone that this isn't an instant of NATO coming in and dictating a "regime change," this is NATO helping the majority of Libyans who uprose against their cunt leader...

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                          • Kristy
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 16743

                            #14
                            Simply because who the target was. Chances are our dear Moamaar (or however you spell his name) is in deep hiding and do you think this strike against his son was merely coincidental?

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32942

                              #15
                              The NATO headquarters are in Brussels, Belgium,[3] and the organization constitutes a system of collective defence whereby its member states agree to mutual defense in response to an attack by any external party.
                              We all know NATO was set up to protect the west from Soviet invasion but there hasn't been any need for that since the Soviet Union fell apart. Why in the hell is NATO invading a country because of an uprising against a dictator? If Libya attacked a NATO nation then sure they can counter attack according to the charter of the organization but in this case, NATO is just doing whatever the hell they want regardless of charters or laws.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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