Obama v. Bush

[Guitar Shark]

Are you talking about Iraq or Afghanistan?

[Jagermeister]

Both. Afganastan was an after thought as far as I am concerned. If we had not had troops in Iraq to begin with Afganastan would have been a tougher sale. At any rate blaming Bush for the war(s) just doesnt hold water for me. If you want to Blame him for something it should be his failure to move on the economy late in his presidency which is why I voted for Obama in the first place. Again biggest mistake I ever made.

[FORD]

A little more detail and accuracy can be found here.


http://blog.heritage.org/2009/03/24/...t-in-pictures/

"Accuracy" is one word that should never be used to describe a propaganda factory like "The Heritage Foundation".

[Jagermeister]

"Accuracy" is one word that should never be used to describe a propaganda factory like "The Heritage Foundation".

That's just not true. It doesn't really matter what the source is the facts are still the same. I have read at least 8 articles today and they paint the same bad picture. What I have found is you have to be careful when they say things like " I didn't include this or that in Obama's numbers" Well WTF does that mean. Did we spend the money or didn't we... Same with the Iraq war. Damn right those numbers should be included under Bush.

Really very intersting stuff.

http://american.com/archive/2009/september/making-bush-look-like-a-piker

[Jagermeister]

http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=12212

OK you know we Republicans like to ram this deficit down Obama's throat and we should but it really doesn't matter to me who is at fault as long as it gets fixed. That right there is some bad shit.

[FORD]

That's just not true. It doesn't really matter what the source is the facts are still the same. I have read at least 8 articles today and they paint the same bad picture. What I have found is you have to be careful when they say things like " I didn't include this or that in Obama's numbers" Well WTF does that mean. Did we spend the money or didn't we... Same with the Iraq war. Damn right those numbers should be included under Bush.

Really very intersting stuff.

http://american.com/archive/2009/sep...k-like-a-piker

The BCE deliberately kept their stupid wars "off budget" because they didn't want the people to know how much money they were wasting on that pointless shit. Obama put them back on the books, so naturally it would appear he was spending more money, though in reality that wasn't the case. It was a good move on his part, but not the move he should have made, which would be to END the stupid shit, and spend no more money on it at all. And then audit the Hell out of the BCE, Blackwater, Halliburton, etc. and reclaim every wasted dollar possible - like that whole ridiculous story about literal pallets of cash being dropped into Iraq and "disappearing". The BCE needs to personally be on the hook for that money. Seize their assets and use the "war on terra" laws to do it, since it allows for assets to be seized in the name of "homeland security"

[Nitro Express]

Comparing Bush to Obama is like comparing which two turds smell worse.

Honestly. Nothing is getting fixed and only getting worse because BOTH sides blame each other while both take care of themselves and let the rest of us get screwed. The public are being fucked up the ass with two dicks. A donkey dick and an elephant dick. There is no real difference between the Democrat or Republican party. Bush gave everything to the banks and Obama gave everything to the banks.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

and Obama gave everything to the banks.

And the vast majority of that cash has been paid back, no ??