Do Republicans Ideas Lead to Job Growth?

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  • ThrillsNSpills
    ROTH ARMY ELITE
    • Jan 2004
    • 6627

    #16
    Pray the Republican away.

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    • ThrillsNSpills
      ROTH ARMY ELITE
      • Jan 2004
      • 6627

      #17
      it's an unnatural state, you know.

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      • Nickdfresh
        SUPER MODERATOR

        • Oct 2004
        • 49567

        #18
        Originally posted by Jagermeister
        Republicans say that government can create jobs through borrowing, printing money and spending blah blah cliche cliche not substantiated by factual analysis cliche cliche.....
        Really with this mullet head site mirror crap?

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        • Nitro Express
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Aug 2004
          • 32942

          #19
          Republicans believe in wasting huge sums of money on a military industrial complex that is way oversized for the need. Republicans believe in the flawed analogy of giving tax breaks to the wealthy so it will trickle down. It won't trickle down because the money will be used in speculation schemes instead of creating businesses and hiring people. It's easier to make more money just investing the money into derivative schemes and it's even better when the government covers your losses. Republicans believe in welfare. Welfare for the rich. They are no longer the middle class party.
          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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          • knuckleboner
            Crazy Ass Mofo
            • Jan 2004
            • 2927

            #20
            Originally posted by Jagermeister
            Republicans argue that the bigger the government is, the smaller the private sector. The Tea Party prescription: shrink government, lower taxes, decrease regulation, and the economy will rebound through private enterprise.
            so, exactly why is private sector job growth stalling? the republican house got their way. we're cutting government jobs. no new spending. yet we had zero net job growth in august.

            republcians are awesome in spin, not so good in fact.

            remember when john boehner blasted the clinton budget because it would drive up deficits and shrink the economy? yeah, he got that a little bit wrong. but he's back. and he's got a plan. and we're putting it into place. and again...yeah, data says, you're kinda wrong...

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            • Nitro Express
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 32942

              #21
              I run several businesses and I can tell you exactly why job growth has stagnated. Nobody can put a five year business plan together. Why? Several reasons. For one we have no idea what our taxes are going to be. The congress had nine years to put a budget together and didn't throw one together until the last minute. That drove my accountant nuts because he couldn't do anyone's taxes because he didn't know what the taxes were going to be. We live in an environment where your taxes can skyrocket over night with little warning. That's one problem there. We need a more stable government budget and tax situation. Another problem is small businesses who are the biggest employers can't get loans. The bailout money went to the big banks who are just holding on to it and earning interest on it instead of loaning it out. So you can't get capital right now. Another problem is the government makes it a pain to hire people. There are so many regulations regarding that and it's expensive. Also the government favors the big corporations giving them the grant money and these are the guys who have outsourced more jobs than they have created.

              You just can't have a full economy without a manufacturing base. You really have to make something to begin with. It's the seed for everything else. It creates the entry level jobs and opportunities to grow. When we made stuff people would usually stay with the same company their whole lives and climb the company ladder. You need education but you also need experience. We have too many classroom managers who never worked on an assembly line or a farm in their lives. The people with the real work and classroom experience usually always make the better managers and technical people. Most kids today don't really have any entry level jobs to get their feet wet in anymore and with that lacking so does the common sense. You have to produce something to have a quality economy. The lie about sustaining ourselves on services and technology was a joke. A failed economic theory. It's only good for those at the top.
              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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              • Nitro Express
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 32942

                #22
                Originally posted by knuckleboner
                so, exactly why is private sector job growth stalling? the republican house got their way. we're cutting government jobs. no new spending. yet we had zero net job growth in august.

                republcians are awesome in spin, not so good in fact.

                remember when john boehner blasted the clinton budget because it would drive up deficits and shrink the economy? yeah, he got that a little bit wrong. but he's back. and he's got a plan. and we're putting it into place. and again...yeah, data says, you're kinda wrong...
                Clinton was president at the begining of the Greenspan bubble. You drop rates and loan money to anyone that runs the economy pretty well. Also, Clinton was president when the internet became the new thing sparking lots of excitement. You have to remember 9/11 didn't happen yet and the Berlin Wall came down. Clinton had the advantage of being president during pretty good times, unfortunately, he didn't do anything about the job outsourcing and supported NAFTA. Clinton was really part of the Bush/Rockefeller cabal he just happened to be president on the upside of things. He did spend less money than Bush and Obama. On the damage side, Clinton did less.
                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                • Seshmeister
                  ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                  • Oct 2003
                  • 35755

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Nitro Express
                  I run several businesses and I can tell you exactly why job growth has stagnated.
                  Business owners spending all their time writing 1000s of words every day on message boards? :D

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                  • ashstralia
                    ROTH ARMY ELITE
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 6566

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Seshmeister
                    Business owners spending all their time writing 1000s of words every day on message boards? :D
                    it's tough at the top, sesh. and a man's gotta have a hobby!!

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                    • Terry
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 12133

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Nitro Express
                      I run several businesses and I can tell you exactly why job growth has stagnated. Nobody can put a five year business plan together. Why? Several reasons. For one we have no idea what our taxes are going to be. The congress had nine years to put a budget together and didn't throw one together until the last minute. That drove my accountant nuts because he couldn't do anyone's taxes because he didn't know what the taxes were going to be. We live in an environment where your taxes can skyrocket over night with little warning. That's one problem there. We need a more stable government budget and tax situation. Another problem is small businesses who are the biggest employers can't get loans. The bailout money went to the big banks who are just holding on to it and earning interest on it instead of loaning it out. So you can't get capital right now. Another problem is the government makes it a pain to hire people. There are so many regulations regarding that and it's expensive. Also the government favors the big corporations giving them the grant money and these are the guys who have outsourced more jobs than they have created.

                      You just can't have a full economy without a manufacturing base. You really have to make something to begin with. It's the seed for everything else. It creates the entry level jobs and opportunities to grow. When we made stuff people would usually stay with the same company their whole lives and climb the company ladder. You need education but you also need experience. We have too many classroom managers who never worked on an assembly line or a farm in their lives. The people with the real work and classroom experience usually always make the better managers and technical people. Most kids today don't really have any entry level jobs to get their feet wet in anymore and with that lacking so does the common sense. You have to produce something to have a quality economy. The lie about sustaining ourselves on services and technology was a joke. A failed economic theory. It's only good for those at the top.
                      Yes. Thanks.
                      Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                      • Nitro Express
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 32942

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Seshmeister
                        Business owners spending all their time writing 1000s of words every day on message boards? :D
                        Talking about yourself Sesh?
                        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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