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  • Nitro Express
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Aug 2004
    • 32880

    Originally posted by ELVIS
    That's a major problem with your line of thinking...

    But you're not alone...

    There are countless other idiots who believe the same bullshit...


    The Federal Government can't even do what it's constitutionally chartered to do. Protecting The Borders is one area. Oh yeah, it's doing a great job there. If it can't even do the basic things what makes it a good idea to make it in charge of more things? Of course I think most the people who think the federal government should be running more parts of our lives are the 40% of the population who pay no income taxes or the rich fucks who own the politicians. Us people in the middle class think differently.
    Last edited by Nitro Express; 03-06-2012, 03:18 PM.
    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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    • jhale667
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 20929

      Originally posted by ELVIS
      There's no point in having a serious discussion with me...

      We've noticed.
      Originally posted by conmee
      If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

      That is all.

      Icon.
      Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
      I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


      Originally posted by Isaac R.
      Then it's really true??

      The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

      OMFG...who in their right mind...???
      Originally posted by eddie78
      I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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      • Seshmeister
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Oct 2003
        • 35441

        Originally posted by Jagermeister
        It's Super Tuesady. I still don't know who I am voting for. I guess I'll vote for Newter.
        He's a nasty cunt but at least he is in favor of a moon colony!

        The choice of candidates in this election is a complete disgrace.

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        • kwame k
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Feb 2008
          • 11302

          Originally posted by ELVIS
          I didn't say you were...

          It just seems like you believe the mainstream line of bullshit that the corprate media pumps into your head...
          Better than believing the religious lies that your cult pumps into your head
          Originally posted by vandeleur
          E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place :D

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          • Dr. Love
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Jan 2004
            • 7833

            Originally posted by Nickdfresh
            That's a smart baby kissing up to grampops, because he knows that Ron Paul doesn't give a shit about kids once they're out of the vagina...
            That's silly nonsense.
            I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

            http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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            • Dr. Love
              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
              • Jan 2004
              • 7833

              Originally posted by kwame k
              You still need a FEMA type program to be able to have the resources to help. Here's a simplistic analogy, you store a flashlight and some batteries in case the lights go out. Shouldn't we have a national storage and staging area? I'd pay that tax.
              Your analogy works better like this: You choose to live in an area where the lights go out a lot, you store a flashlight, and I pay for the batteries in case the lights go out (and they do, often).


              When insurance companies and illegal billing practices are running rampant. When a small business owner can't afford to insure it's workers, let alone himself, you have an immediate and national problem. The States have failed at this.......when did it become against the law for States to enact it's own health care system? When the States can't govern themselves it's time for the Federal government to step in.....like during Civil Rights era, for example.
              I don't understand why a company should provide health insurance for the worker. They don't buy our auto insurance. The only reason that I can see is that it's because insurance is so expensive that people can't really afford it on their own. But then, why is that?

              Auto insurance companies compete like crazy for business, focusing on quality of service, or insurance rates, or types of coverage to compete for business.

              But I don't really see health insurance companies compete for business. Why do you think that is, kwame?


              Not when huge companies have rigged the system to the point of poisoning people for decades with slow developing diseases like cancer. It's happened 100's of times and in countless places in this country and by having better national regulations it could of been stopped. It's because big corporations play a numbers game......profits verses punitive damage. If the profit exceeds the loss, companies will take the profit. They do it every day.
              There is no reason that cities and states shouldn't be able to pass these ordinances. Why should the federal government come down here to Texas and do it for us? Why can't we be allowed to make our own choices, so long as we aren't hurting others?

              Do you think the federal government should be able to decide everything for you?

              To my knowledge no one is outlawing private schools but if you can't afford a private school, a public school should be available.....it should be a basic right to get a decent education. As much of a right as free speech. If private schools were such a better choice then why hasn't the market adjusted that and why haven't public schools failed by market demand? We need educational reform, for sure.....just not the abolition of it. Each State should manage it's educational budget but the Federal government should set a standard and mandate that every State offers an education.
              It's not a right... and I don't think it should be. Rights are things the government exists to protect. Should there be education laws? Sure! At the local/state level. Which was my point. I didn't say anything about public vs private education.


              Hope for me yet? I've debated ad nauseam the evils of the Federal Reserve.....have linked numerous sources about the evils of that entity. Debated here to death in the FL.
              It wasn't about the Federal Reserve. It was about critical thinking.




              I listened to the man when he ran last time and researched him then. I've listened to the debates and read/listened to his speeches now. I've never followed the media's spin on him....mainly because I don't watch it and would rather read the news. So implying I'm some Johnny on the band wagon of 30 second soundbites is kinda lame, bro!
              I'll take your word but a lot of what you say about him is very divorced from what his policy points are...

              Reform and regulations......obviously they haven't been doing their jobs or we wouldn't be in this mess. Just because it isn't working now doesn't mean there's not a need for it. We need reform like we got during the Great Depression.....to ensure it never happens again. The the markets can do whatever they will after that.
              Man, you sound like the answer to every problem is to have more government.

              Neither do I.......we need real campaign reform. To the point where people running for the House or Senate can not take national money. No national money from Demos or Repukes. All local level financing, period. Corporate donations can't exceed public donations in the national, too. A level playing field. Just because Grandpa doesn't take money from them doesn't change the fact the rest of them do.
              Or we could just reduce the influence of federal government to where there isn't a desire to corrupt the system. Also term limits for every office.


              I thought the same thing when Perot had his run and his 3rd party but in the end it was a pipe dream

              Until the majority speaks up we'll never have the best and the brightest running for office.

              One only needs to look at the current GOP candidates and the Demos to see that.
              Perot killed his own chances.
              I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

              http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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              • ELVIS
                Banned
                • Dec 2003
                • 44120

                I think kickme k believes the federal government is god...

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49335

                  Originally posted by Dr. Love
                  That's silly nonsense.
                  Much like your utopian, messianic libertarian Ron Paul mindless fanboi'ism...

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32880

                    Originally posted by ELVIS
                    I think kickme k believes the federal government is god...
                    Which is in it's early death throws. You can't continue spending a $1 trillion plus a year. It's very rare a government pulls out of this kind of downturn. Failing governments become very aggressive and tyrannical and thrash around before they go completely kaput. When it does the country splits up into different bits and pieces. If anything the country is being looted before the collapse right now. If the US lasts another 30 years I will be very surprised.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Dr. Love
                      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 7833

                      Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                      Much like your utopian, messianic libertarian Ron Paul mindless fanboi'ism...
                      Sometimes I'm not sure if you just need a hug, or need a course in basic reading comprehension. 41 is a too young to be such a bitter, angry old man!

                      Last edited by Dr. Love; 03-07-2012, 08:34 PM.
                      I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

                      http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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                      • ELVIS
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 44120

                        LMAO !!


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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32880



                          A very good expose on the neo conservatives, who they are, and what their agenda is. Look at everyone else running for the presidency. They all are neo cons.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • ELVIS
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 44120

                            Ron Paul should have come out with something like this from the beginning...
                            Last edited by ELVIS; 03-07-2012, 12:25 PM.

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32880

                              What's amazing is many Democrats will full hearty support a neo-con agenda as long as it's a fellow Democrat running it. Have a Republican do the same thing and they get their panties in a bind. This nation is so brainwashed by branding and propaganda it's pathetic.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                              • ELVIS
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 44120

                                Originally posted by Nitro Express
                                This nation is so brainwashed by branding and propaganda it's pathetic.
                                That should be a bumper sticker...


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