Enough With The Hopeful Wishing Already

[Dr. Love]

I didn't see an option for Obama ... he's going to be the only winner at the end of this thing.

Certainly none of us are going to be winners as a result of this election.

[LoungeMachine]

I didn't see an option for Obama ... .

Not currently a GOP Nominee......



But if he were, he'd beat the current pack of sillies......

[Dr. Love]

Sometimes given how he governs, I think he'd fit in with the GOP better than the Democratic party...

[LoungeMachine]

Sometimes given how he governs, I think he'd fit in with the GOP better than the Democratic party...

I honestly can't disagree with that.....



That being said....IF Ru Paul was running as a Dem he'd be 10 points higher than he is now

[Dr. Love]

yeah, probably

[Terry]

Out of who is left standing, in my eyes Mittens is the only one who can make it to the finish line.

About the only one who has a near 50/50 shot of actually winning the presidency.

Newt just isn't a serious choice...mostly because after all the faux-intellectual bravado, hype and hooplah around him is cleared away, he's just not a serious person.

Ron Paul is just a bit too doddering this time around; some of his ideas may well be timeless (although more than a few just aren't realistic), but age has withered him.

[Unchainme]

As I was watching the Super Bowl, at halftime following the Madonna preformance, I saw again, Chyrsler kicked ass with yet another add with one of the greatest american actors ever, Clint Eastwood.

Now, someone who was formerly on the right, and now an independent who has right leaning policies on economics and left leaning ones on social matters. The ad, to me, spoke volumes as to why the GOP is struggling to connect with most middle-class americans.

The commercial seems very much like the "Morning in America" ad that ran in '84 when Reagan was trying to get re-elected, and something my dad thought of very positively.

The problem with this current group of Candidates, both on the left and on the right is that they really don't seem to get it. This is not a time for social issues, nor is it a time for division and talks of war. It's time to rally around and try to get this country back to what it was. A great nation. One that's admired, respected by those who want freedom, liberty and pursuit of happiness in their lives, and feared by those that want to take away those things that we as humanity hold dearly.

Do you think idiots like Rick Perry, Newt, Palin, Bachmann, Hannity, Beck, and the other idiots trumpeting their own causes to sell their principles to the highest bidder get this? No. They'd rather continue to divide us and make this nation even weaker than it was before.

I'm disgusted by this, and judging by the way my father and others formerly right have seemed to tune off the FAUX propaganda box as of late, I'm not alone.

[FORD]

Clint's ad was very well done, with a couple of exceptions. The most obvious one being the fictional idea that "we all pulled together".

Uh, no we didn't. The Repukes fought the bailouts of GM and Chrysler all the way. Mittens Romney, whose fortune is partially owed to his father's success as CEO of American Motors literally said that those companies should die, and that millions of jobs (between the car companies themselves and all the other businesses dependent on them, from the parts manufacturers, to the guy who runs the convenience store down the block where the workers buy their morning coffee and donuts)

Clint is of course a Republican politician himself (former mayor of Carmel CA) and I'm sure he wants to believe his team were part of the solution. And maybe if he were in Congress, might have voted more responsibly. But sorry to say, Dirty Harry.... the guys on your team were part of the problem, not part of the solution.

The other objection is more minor, but just as valid.... all that "rah rah Go America yay team spirit" stuff was brought to you by a company which is now owned by Italians and was previously owned by Germans. If Chrysler does well, it definitely is good news for Detroit, and the workers. But let's not kid ourselves.... a lot of that money ain't staying in Michigan.

[Unchainme]

Clint is of course a Republican politician himself (former mayor of Carmel CA) and I'm sure he wants to believe his team were part of the solution. And maybe if he were in Congress, might have voted more responsibly. But sorry to say, Dirty Harry.... the guys on your team were part of the problem, not part of the solution.

Well and no doubt. I don't think he particularly harbored any ill-will against the city, and I would assume when asked he would be in support of bailing out those involved, and I'm sure he does indeed want to continue to have them come back. Reading up on him, he just seems to be fiscally liberal and socially conservative. Even opposed the 3 wars we've been in since the 50's.

Detroit, Cleveland, Buffalo, (I begrudgingly say this next one) and Pittsburgh are All-American Cities that deserve better than to be these pathetic run down towns where people are fleeing at will.

It would have been truly terrible if we didn't have those great american companies in those great american cities anymore. I mean, fuck, my hometown of Akron, Ohio used to be the Rubber Capital of the World..and now? There's a ton of empty factories now. My dad used to be very proud to say he sold for BF Goodrich, and they bailed out when I was like..7-8.

My point being though. We don't really have a politician out there with the viewpoint of being a problem solver, a "Roll up your sleeves" sort of guy. Rather than worry about appeasing everyone, and getting elected again.

[Little Texan]

Did I hear right that Newt who has been campaigning for lower government spending is saying he will be putting 13000 people on the moon to create a new US State?

I would LOVE to hear how he proposes to do that, and pay for it in a way that doesn't quadruple that pesky little thing called the deficit that we're trying so hard recently to reduce. Besides, we have had a hard enough time in the past just getting three people to the moon (Apollo 13, anyone?), and we're going to put 13,000 on the moon? And what grand purpose would this serve?

[Dr. Love]

Jaysus (as they say here in the redneck south) ...

This thing is going to get hairy. Santorum might knock out Gingrich where Romney has failed to do so, unless Newt can get to his southern states and then in turn try to knock out Santorum. At this rate, who knows who (if anyone) is going to have momentum and the delegates to take it in the convention...

[FORD]

I guess Man on Dog can call tonight a "win" but considering there weren't any delegates up for grabs in either Missouri or Minnesota tonight, he didn't actually win anything.

I imagine in the case of Minnesota, they were just voting out of spite because they had two candidates in this race early on (Batshit Bachmann and Tim Pawtucky the Bridge Destroyer) and they both already dropped out.

[FORD]

Hmm..... looks like Santorum may have Googled Colorado too......


Rick Santorum 50%
Newt Gingrich 21%
Mitt Romney 19%
Ron Paul 10%

Granted, that's with a mere 1% reporting, but it's a sizeable lead. Hard to believe this fetus fetishist can win three states in one night, even if two of them don't count.

[ELVIS]

I guess it's four more years of Oblama...

[Unchainme]

Who the fuck is voting for santorum?

honestly?

the guys a fucking moron.