'International Permission’ Trumps Congressional Permission For Military Actions

[ELVIS]

Exactly, Nitro...

[ELVIS]

:elvos:

[BigBadBrian]

Yes, I get it and I got it years before you got a clue, bro!

This is nothing new!

Like it or not, W had Congressional permission for Afghanistan and Iraq.

[BigBadBrian]

Elvis is correct: Obama is a traitorous fuck for even thinking about getting permission from an assinine world body like the UN before deciding US policy.

[BigBadBrian]

It's all about putting the US under the control of the UN. Hillary just agreed to the UN small arms ban treaty. The current batch of politicians are pretty much gonzo. Only a very small minority are upholding the supreme law of the land. The thing is everything they are doing is blatantly illegal but they are just going ahead with their agenda thinking most of us have no clue what our rights are or will do anything about it. We no longer have a functioning constitutional government so it's going to be the citizens that are going to have to stand up and tell them to shove it and refuse to cooperate. It's time to grow a pair people.

I don't think they have enough muscle to enforce martial law. They might start harassing certain groups here and there. What they will probably do is declare a bank holiday and seize people's bank accounts. Homeland Security is set up to do exactly that. Oh well. I saw this coming down the pike and prepared for it.

I'm not sure about the seizing of bank accounts, but the rest of Nitro's post is dead on.

[FORD]

Elvis is correct: Obama is a traitorous fuck for even thinking about getting permission from an assinine world body like the UN before deciding US policy.

You seem to forget that the entire BCE case for invading Iraq (the second time) was based on Saddam Hussein allegedly violating a UN resolution concerning WMDs.

In reality, since it turned out he didn't have any such weapons, he probably didn't actually violate the UN resolution either. But that WAS Chimpy's argument. Based on violations of an international body.

[ELVIS]

That's totally different, FORD and you know it...

[knuckleboner]

This is ILLEGAL!!!

This is a blatent treasonous takeover of the government and country...

It is CLEAR grounds for impeachment...

But none of the pussies here care...

Nitro is the only member here that understands what is going on...

And Dr. Love, I believe...

oh, the knuckleboner understands what's going on. it's just that in my understanding the sky's blue. sorry.

and jesus christ is this a non-issue.

he said, the U.S. acts militarily when 1) invited by another country (gulf war); 2) out of national security (afghanistan); or 3) under U.N. law (iraq war). he NEVER says that the U.S. is beholden to international law. this as an "issue" is absolutely pathetic.

[ELVIS]

No it isn't...

[gbranton]

I don't think they have enough muscle to enforce martial law.

Not in THIS part of the world. Nobody has that kind of muscle. We ALL have plenty of guns and know how to use them.

I would add to this thread but Nitro has my thoughts covered in their entirety.

[Guitar Shark]

I would add to this thread but Nitro has my thoughts covered in their entirety.

That is truly a scary thought...

[knuckleboner]

No it isn't...

you're going to need a little more than that. see, i explained what the guy actually said, and didn't say. i'm going to need a "why" from you.

[ELVIS]

You see, that "kinetic military action" in Libya that was supposed to take "days, not weeks", but took nearly a year, was in fact WAR in the mind of sane americans...

So now we have Panetta basically telling congress that he and Oblama can perform another "kinetic military action" in Syria having "options" regarding where authorization might come from...

Well, knuckleheader...

That authorization can only legally come from the Congress of the United States...

[Nickdfresh]

This is ILLEGAL!!!

This is a blatent treasonous takeover of the government and country...

It is CLEAR grounds for impeachment...

But none of the pussies here care...

Nitro is the only member here that understands what is going on...

And Dr. Love, I believe...

You're completely insane. Nothing will make you happy. Would you prefer we blundered into Iraqs and Vietnams without the slightest inclination that these things are not very good ideas.

[Nickdfresh]

oh, the knuckleboner understands what's going on. it's just that in my understanding the sky's blue. sorry.

and jesus christ is this a non-issue.

he said, the U.S. acts militarily when 1) invited by another country (gulf war); 2) out of national security (afghanistan); or 3) under U.N. law (iraq war). he NEVER says that the U.S. is beholden to international law. this as an "issue" is absolutely pathetic.

Say that again reeeaaallllyyyy sllllooooowwwww for these mouthbreathing 'tards lookin' to nitpick at the slightest excuse so they can rationalize voting for Rummny while holding their nose....