The RIAA again, proves it's evil

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  • gbranton
    Veteran
    • Aug 2005
    • 1847

    #16
    Originally posted by FORD
    These days you have your major recording artists finally opening up their vaults and putting out official releases of stuff that all their serious fans had years ago, like the Rolling Stones and their classic live recording from 1973, "A Brussels Affair". It was an online release only, but I was happy to pay $9 for the FLAC version. (I'll never pay ANYTHING for an Mp3, because it's not the genuine article, just a poor imitation)

    Funny thing is, Bob Clearmountain buried Mick Taylor in the mix (except for the solos) probably on orders from Keef, just like he ordered Jimmy Miller to do on all the studio albums of that era. So the bootleg STILL sounds better. I'm not so sure they should have bothered putting it out at all, if they had to alter it like that.
    I saw that and the Hampton Coluseum show for sale and almost bought them but I already have so much live Stone shit between Flashpoint, Stripped, Shine A Light, No Security, Live Licks, Still Life, Get You Ya Yas Out and the audio I have ripped off of their dvds that I have postponed it for now.
    "Don't want 'em to get you goat, don't show 'em where it's hid." - David Lee Roth

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    • gbranton
      Veteran
      • Aug 2005
      • 1847

      #17
      Originally posted by FORD
      I was happy to pay $9 for the FLAC version.
      I remember now, that was the other issue, no FLAC download in the US, only MP3.
      "Don't want 'em to get you goat, don't show 'em where it's hid." - David Lee Roth

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      • sadaist
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Jul 2004
        • 11625

        #18
        Originally posted by Nitro Express
        We don't need all these thousands of laws and regulations ...


        Check it. EVERY politician considers themself a lawmaker. they go into office & start passing all kinds of laws. All of them. YET THEY REPEAL NONE! EVER!!!'


        I want to be a congressman and make it my policy to remove at least 5 stupid laws clean from the books every day in office. Start with the easy stupid ones like.....


        Animals are banned from mating publicly within 1,500 feet of a tavern, school, or place of worship.

        Women may not drive in a house coat.

        It is forbidden to bring bears to the beach.

        You are not allowed to carry a cocktail from the bar to a table.

        etc.....a BILLION more like that and then you get ones that actually suck. Like the new one in Los Angeles making it illegal to throw a frisbee on the beach.

        WHAT THE FUCK !?!?!?

        We are fucking squeezed to death man. I will pass no new laws....only repeal them. Vote Sadaist 2013! lol


        Seriously man. We could get rid of 99% of the laws & be just perfect.
        “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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        • sadaist
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Jul 2004
          • 11625

          #19
          Ford, sometimes I think you probably know more about the Rolling Stones than any of the actual band members

          “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 59558

            #20
            Probably because I've done far less drugs than they have
            Eat Us And Smile

            Cenk For America 2024!!

            Justice Democrats


            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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            • knuckleboner
              Crazy Ass Mofo
              • Jan 2004
              • 2927

              #21
              Originally posted by Kristy
              This isn't about the "artist" or being paid.
              if the artist chose to sell to a record company, then technically, it's still about the artist and the artist's business opportunities.

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              • sadaist
                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                • Jul 2004
                • 11625

                #22
                Originally posted by FORD
                Probably because I've done far less drugs than they have

                But you are younger than they. there's still time man.
                “Great losses often bring only a numb shock. To truly plunge a victim into misery, you must overwhelm him with many small sufferings.”

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                • ODShowtime
                  ROCKSTAR

                  • Jun 2004
                  • 5812

                  #23
                  Originally posted by FORD
                  Funny thing is, Bob Clearmountain buried Mick Taylor in the mix (except for the solos) probably on orders from Keef, just like he ordered Jimmy Miller to do on all the studio albums of that era. So the bootleg STILL sounds better. I'm not so sure they should have bothered putting it out at all, if they had to alter it like that.

                  Original "bootleg" mix

                  Clearmountain's remix
                  I'm pretty sure these two are from different performances. These Europe '73 FMs consist of a variety of dates.
                  gnaw on it

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 59558

                    #24
                    Originally posted by ODShowtime
                    I'm pretty sure these two are from different performances. These Europe '73 FMs consist of a variety of dates.
                    Well, on you tube, it was listed as being from the Belgium show. You might be right though, because listening to it again, I can hear some differences in Jagger's vocal.

                    You can still hear the fact that Taylor was buried in the mix on the new "official" version of the release though, compared to the bootleg versions. The entire 1973 tour was professionally recorded, has aired on the King Biscuit Flower Hour, and was supposed to be an official live album at the time, but apparently the usual legal hassles with the asshole Allen Klein prevented this from becoming a reality at the time. And a bootleg legend was born.....
                    Eat Us And Smile

                    Cenk For America 2024!!

                    Justice Democrats


                    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                    • ThrillsNSpills
                      ROTH ARMY ELITE
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 6627

                      #25

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                      • Kristy
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 16727

                        #26
                        Originally posted by knuckleboner
                        if the artist chose to sell to a record company, then technically, it's still about the artist and the artist's business opportunities.
                        Originally, yes. Until the RIAA steps in and now wants to shut down your internet. That has nothing to do with the artist.

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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32942

                          #27
                          Not surprising in a country where the government is threatening to send a guy to prison for seven years for giving poor, needy people food off his organic farm while Monsanto can poison us with the government's blessing.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • knuckleboner
                            Crazy Ass Mofo
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 2927

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Kristy
                            Originally, yes. Until the RIAA steps in and now wants to shut down your internet. That has nothing to do with the artist.
                            the RIAA acts in the interest of the legal holder of the copyright. if it's not the artist, it's because the artist sold/assigned it.

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