Will the BCE steal the 2012 election for Mittens in (where else) Florida??

[FORD]

I think the left agree with the having an ID thing...but they are going to fight it until death because the right brought it up as their idea. Both sides have too much pride to just say...you're correct, let's make it so.

The left disagrees with how the right is approaching the issue, because their motives behind doing so are blatantly obvious. The people who do not have drivers licenses or pay money for a state ID card if they don't drive are either poor, elderly, "minorities" or live in a large city where cars are not practical (or any combination of those factors) and those populations tend not to vote for the party of corporate CEOs. The Repukes are greatly exaggerating the "danger" of voter fraud when the only two documented cases in recent years have been Ann The Man Coulter and Mitt Romney, and we know which party they belong to. Based on that, should we make the assumption that ALL Republicans are fraudulent voters??

Of course not. It would be as ridiculous of a generalization as what Brightfart (burn in Hell) and Pimpy O'Keefe pulled with that Acorn bullshit.

If you go to your local polling place, they have a list of all registered voters in that precinct. Your name should be on that list, and you should have that county issued voter ID that proves you are who you say you are. Without THAT ID, you shouldn't vote. And you should sign in at the poll, with the signature compared to the one on the card. The county auditor here apparently keeps signatures on file, because I signed a ballot with a broken finger one year, producing a signature that didn't match the previous ones, as a result, and they called me or wrote a letter (forget which) asking for verification. Even though the auditor is a Republican, I think it's a great thing that they catch details like that.

[Seshmeister]

3) Do not question the right of any American over the age of 18 to vote, and mandatory LIFE sentence in prison for anybody who interferes with this process.

What about people who are already in prison?

Big debate here as European human rights law says we have to let them vote. I see most US states say no.

[ELVIS]

That's a bunch of bullshit, Ford...

Here in louisiana, you need a VALID social security card to register to vote and / or to obtain a state ID card or drivers license. It's all done throu the DMV...

Then, in order to actually vote, you must present the ID card or drivers license at the polling station. Not the registration card, your IDENTIFICATION card...

A voter registration card is not an ID card...

I've been in the DMV and have watched more than one illegal attempt to obtain a drivers license without a valid social security card and they were turned away...


Score one for Louisiana !!

[Satan]

That's a bunch of bullshit, Ford...

Here in louisiana, you need a VALID social security card to register to vote and / or to obtain a state ID card or drivers license. It's all done throu the DMV...

Then, in order to actually vote, you must present the ID card or drivers license at the polling station. Not the registration card, your IDENTIFICATION card...

A voter registration card is not an ID card...

I've been in the DMV and have watched more than one illegal attempt to obtain a drivers license without a valid social security card and they were turned away...


Score one for Louisiana !!

But based on what you just said yourself, if they don't have the valid Social Security card, they wouldn't get the Voter ID. So then anybody who DOES have a voter ID has proven their citizenship to the standards of the State of Louisiana, and there's no reason to require them to buy another form of ID, right?

[Satan]

What about people who are already in prison?

Big debate here as European human rights law says we have to let them vote. I see most US states say no.

I don't know of any states that let prison inmates vote. Where the laws vary from state to state is when they get their voting rights back. Some restore them immediately upon release, others you have to formally apply for reinstatement, and of course there are a few states which try to deny voting rights permanently and their reasons why are fairly obvious when you consider the ethnic breakdowns of the prison population.

Obviously there should be one uniform national standard for this, and it should be automatic restoration of full voting rights the moment they're released from prison. If the whole point of releasing someone is to say "OK, you did your time, now get out there and be a respectable member of society again", then shouldn't they be able to do all that comes with that?

[ELVIS]

You cannot register to vote in Louisiana without Having a state ID card...

You can apply for both at the same time...