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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 58805

    #16
    Originally posted by ELVIS
    No, Im looking more into Gary Johnson...
    If you think the banks and corporations have too much power now, how do you think that would improve by completely deregulating them (as Johnson or any other Libertarian would do)?
    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

    Justice Democrats


    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • ELVIS
      Banned
      • Dec 2003
      • 44120

      #17
      Can't be no worse...

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      • ELVIS
        Banned
        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        #18
        And nobody said completely deregulate everything...

        You've already proven that big corporations can side step the regulations...

        But you have to make the playing field equal for the little guy who can't do business...

        Do you know that the EPA are cracking down on the small farmer over "farm dust regulations" ??

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 58805

          #19
          Big corporations side step the regulations because Repukes (including Clinton and Obama) appoint corporate tools to do the regulating.

          The solution there is not to eliminate regulations, but to enforce them. And obviously you can't do that by appointing someone with a clear conflict of interest in doing the job, like a MonSatan shill running the Department of Agriculture, or anybody from Gold Mansacks or the "federal" reserve in an economic position.

          If Rocky Anderson said he would put Ron Paul in charge of the US Treasury, would you vote for Rocky?

          How about if he named Willie Nelson as the Secretary of Agriculture?
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • ELVIS
            Banned
            • Dec 2003
            • 44120

            #20
            I don't dislike Rocky Anderson...

            But what you just described isn't because of "repukes." It's both sides...

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 58805

              #21
              Originally posted by ELVIS
              I don't dislike Rocky Anderson...

              But what you just described isn't because of "repukes." It's both sides...
              Actually, it's the LACK of both sides. Only one side is doing this shit. Problem is that "side" (corporatist right wing assholes) has corrupted both major parties.
              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • knuckleboner
                Crazy Ass Mofo
                • Jan 2004
                • 2927

                #22
                Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                And then Obama ran the economy off the cliff with massive deficit spending and having the unemployment rate jump by over 2 percentage points, all on his watch.
                dude, that's crazy. even if the deficits were all obama's fault (they absolutely weren't, but for the sake of your argument, it doesn't matter) there is NO WAY that the economy reacts so quickly to high deficits. the long-term damage of high deficits is 1) it crowds out other government spending, which has not yet happened, and 2) it causes interest rates to climb, which has not yet happened.

                and, do you have any expanation for why britain, which took a much more austere/deficit cutting tact, fell back into recession while the U.S. continues in an, albeit tepid, recovery?

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                • BigBadBrian
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 10625

                  #23
                  Originally posted by knuckleboner
                  and, do you have any expanation for why britain, which took a much more austere/deficit cutting tact, fell back into recession while the U.S. continues in an, albeit tepid, recovery?
                  Tepid recovery? It's like the slowest recovery from a recession since the Great Depression! But I digress...

                  Great Britain, and I'm certainly no authority on the UK economy, is hopelessly tied to those fuckwit economic brain-child idiots like Greece and Italy and Spain. The UK and Germany and possibly even France should depart from the EU and form they own economic union. They'd be much better off.
                  “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                  • Jesus Christ
                    Veteran
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 2428

                    #24
                    Perhaps the fact that the EU is struggling to stay together will discourage certain "ministers" in thy country from their misinterpretations of Scripture, which had caused them to claim that the Anti-Me would come from Europe.

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                    • Nitro Express
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 32798

                      #25
                      The EU is toast. People have figured out the bankers put it together and the policy is set by unelected officials. Plus, it's really hard to have a union when there are so many languages and economic differences between countries. No way were Germans going to work until age 80 so a Greek could retire at age 46.

                      We will see if the US holds together. What I thought would happen 30 years from now probably will happen sooner.
                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • Nitro Express
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 32798

                        #26
                        Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                        Tepid recovery? It's like the slowest recovery from a recession since the Great Depression! But I digress...

                        Great Britain, and I'm certainly no authority on the UK economy, is hopelessly tied to those fuckwit economic brain-child idiots like Greece and Italy and Spain. The UK and Germany and possibly even France should depart from the EU and form they own economic union. They'd be much better off.
                        The UK is broke and has no industry. It's got some of the world's best universities and some well educated people but it no longer has the empire. It pretty much has the same problems the US has on a smaller scale. The only difference is they waste their money a bit differently than we do.
                        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32798

                          #27
                          The EU is toast. People have figured out the bankers put it together and the policy is set by unelected officials. Plus, it's really hard to have a union when there are so many languages and economic differences between countries. No way were Germans going to work until age 80 so a Greek could retire at age 46.

                          We will see if the US holds together. What I thought would happen 30 years from now probably will happen sooner.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32798

                            #28


                            What's really going to change Europe is the aging of the population there. I remember being in Austria and not seeing any young people. There hardly were any teenagers. It was strange. Something will come in and fill the void and change the place for better or worse.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • vandeleur
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 9865

                              #29
                              Some of the problems of Europe are a lot more complex than are being discribed here .... The euro was a near catastrophic attempt to have fiscal union without political union ... It made no Sense to anyone except the most extreme europhile in the uk. But with globalisation etc the problems of Europe effect all of the financial powers .... I've just finished reading a book about Europe in the 20's and the rise of nationalism in Europe
                              And its scarey how much it has echoes of now ...
                              fuck your fucking framing

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                              • Nitro Express
                                DIAMOND STATUS
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 32798

                                #30
                                Who wants the fiscal union is the banks and if you have central private banks that can control the economy with interest rates they are more powerful than the politicians. A politician is just a lacky you buy for the most part. Then the commercial banks loan money like crazy because they can because they are getting it from the central bank. This creates a bubble that pops and crashes the prices and the bankers come in and buy it up cheap. Of course you need to have enough politicians bought off to give you the government bailout when you need it. In the financial industry it's called pumping and dumping.

                                This is why we need to make the money supply a public utility with open disclosure. Also, it would help if the congress couldn't borrow money.

                                It's not bailing out Greece it's bailing out the bankers who are trying to take Greece over with financial warfare. These bankers know if they lose Greece they lose the whole EU and their scam is sunk. The average person in these countries would be better off if the country just defaulted. Let these crooked banks fail. They made the bad loans on purpose. People need to understand this. They loaned the money because they were sure the taxpayer would bail them out.

                                Bailing out banks is just welfare for the rich. It's all it is. It's bailing out people who were wreckless so they can continue to fly on Gulfstream jets and drive Ferraris.
                                Last edited by Nitro Express; 06-22-2012, 01:27 AM.
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