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  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    Broke California OKs funding for high-speed rail line

    SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) -- California lawmakers approved billions of dollars Friday in construction financing for the initial segment of what would be the nation's first dedicated high-speed rail line connecting Los Angeles and San Francisco.

    The state Senate voted 21-16 on a party-line vote after intense lobbying by Gov. Jerry Brown, Democratic leaders and labor groups.

    The bill authorizes the state to begin selling $4.5 billion in voter-approved bonds that includes $2.6 billion to build an initial 130-mile stretch of the high-speed rail line in the Central Valley. That will allow the state to collect another $3.2 billion in federal funding that could have been rescinded if lawmakers failed to act Friday.

    "The Legislature took bold action today that gets Californians back to work and puts California out in front once again," Brown said in a statement. He later celebrated with Senate President Pro Tem Darrell Steinberg of Sacramento, a fellow Democrat.

    Brown pushed for the massive infrastructure project to accommodate expected population growth in the nation's most populous state, which now has 37 million people. He said the project is sorely needed to create jobs in a region with higher-than-average unemployment.

    The bill, which passed the state Assembly on Thursday, now heads to Brown for his signature.

    The first segment of the line will run from Madera to Bakersfield. The final cost of the completed project from Los Angeles to San Francisco would be $68 billion.

    Senate Republicans blasted the decision, citing the state's ongoing budget problems.

    "It's unfortunate that the majority would rather spend billions of dollars that we don't have for a train to nowhere than keep schools open and harmless from budget cuts," Sen. Tom Harman, R-Huntington Beach, said in a statement.

    Sen. Ted Gaines, R-Granite Bay, said the project would push California over a fiscal cliff.

    "It will require endless subsidies and will blast a massive hole into our budget," Gaines said in a statement.

    The Bay Area Council, a group of business leaders from the San Francisco Bay and Silicon Valley areas, cheered the vote. The council backed the 2008 statewide bond measure regarding the rail line and had been working to sway legislators in support of the project in recent weeks.

    "This is a courageous step forward for California's future," said its president and CEO, Jim Wunderman. "California has grabbed a golden opportunity to build the nation's first high-speed rail system, create the backbone of a new, clean 21st century transportation system and support our future economic growth."

    Dan Richard, chairman of the California High-Speed Rail Authority, which is managing the project, said California would have lost billions of dollars in federal aid if the Senate fails to pass the bill before adjourning Friday for a monthlong recess.

    Richard said California entered a contract that called for the federal government to provide money for building the Central Valley segment if the state also put up its share.

    California was able to secure more federal aid than expected after Florida, Ohio and Wisconsin turned down money.

    Before the vote, at least half a dozen Democrats in the 40-member Senate remained opposed, skeptical or uncommitted. Some were concerned about how the vote would impact their political futures, while others were wary about financing and management of the massive project.

    One dissenter, Sen. Joe Simitian, D-Palo Alto, said public support had waned for the project, and there were too many questions about financing to complete it.

    "Is there additional commitment of federal funds? There is not. Is there additional commitment of private funding? There is not. Is there a dedicated funding source that we can look to in the coming years? There is not," Simitian said.

    In recent days, Democratic leaders included more funding to improve existing rail systems in an effort to entice support for the bullet train. The bill now allocates a total of $1.9 billion in bonds for regional rail improvements in Northern and Southern California. The upgrades include electrifying Caltrain, a San Jose-San Francisco commuter line, and improving Metrolink commuter lines in Southern California.


  • chefcraig
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Apr 2004
    • 12172

    #2
    Yeah, this looks like a well thought out plan.










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    • ELVIS
      Banned
      • Dec 2003
      • 44120

      #3
      Maybe they should build a one way high-speed rail out of California that doesn't accept welfare debit cards...

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      • Satan
        ROTH ARMY ELITE
        • Jan 2004
        • 6664

        #4
        Earthquake jokes all aside, investing in much needed infrastructure improvements is a Most Unholy decision.

        Just imagine if Romney was governor. He'd use that money to build CAR ELEVATORS for his fellow billionaires.
        Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

        Originally posted by Sockfucker
        I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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        • jhale667
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Aug 2004
          • 20929

          #5
          The rail system here isn't bad at all...takes balls to ride the subway in L.A. - sure in NY you might get mugged, but never will you have to worry about the whole thing collapsing on your head!

          All for investing in the state's infrastructure, personally. It's an investment in the future, FFS - that the state's finances are dire NOW is kind of irrelevant in the overall picture. It's pretty short-sighted to say "nope, let shit crumble". Plus the tens of thousands of jobs the project will create from the construction of it and then running it can't hurt. And as long as earthquake "proofing" measures are taken (building codes are pretty strict for that), high speed rail is where the country should be going anyway...





          Originally posted by conmee
          If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

          That is all.

          Icon.
          Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
          I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


          Originally posted by Isaac R.
          Then it's really true??

          The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

          OMFG...who in their right mind...???
          Originally posted by eddie78
          I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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          • ELVIS
            Banned
            • Dec 2003
            • 44120

            #6
            What's wrong with car elevators ??

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            • Satan
              ROTH ARMY ELITE
              • Jan 2004
              • 6664

              #7
              Originally posted by ELVIS
              What's wrong with car elevators ??
              What's wrong is the fact that somebody has stolen so much money through outright theft and tax evasion that he has to build a fucking garage with more than one floor to hold all of his cars.

              Now on the other hand, if your kid has this classic Fisher Price toy garage (with built in car elevator), well that's OK, I guess.....

              Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

              Originally posted by Sockfucker
              I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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              • gbranton
                Veteran
                • Aug 2005
                • 1847

                #8
                Originally posted by Satan
                Now on the other hand, if your kid has this classic Fisher Price toy garage (with built in car elevator), well that's OK, I guess.....

                I had one of those, I used to park Hot Wheels inside and land my VertiBird on the roof.
                Last edited by gbranton; 07-06-2012, 10:11 PM.
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                • PETE'S BROTHER
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 12678

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jhale667
                  The rail system here isn't bad at all...takes balls to ride the subway in L.A. - sure in NY you might get mugged, but never will you have to worry about the whole thing collapsing on your head!

                  All for investing in the state's infrastructure, personally. It's an investment in the future, FFS - that the state's finances are dire NOW is kind of irrelevant in the overall picture. It's pretty short-sighted to say "nope, let shit crumble". Plus the tens of thousands of jobs the project will create from the construction of it and then running it can't hurt. And as long as earthquake "proofing" measures are taken (building codes are pretty strict for that), high speed rail is where the country should be going anyway...





                  japan's weren't shitty
                  Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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                  • Va Beach VH Fan
                    ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 17913

                    #10
                    The infrastructure in this country needs updating, especially the bridges....

                    But I'm sure if another bridge collapses like it did in MN, that'll be Obama's fault too....
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                    • PETE'S BROTHER
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 12678

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
                      The infrastructure in this country needs updating, especially the bridges....

                      But I'm sure if another bridge collapses like it did in MN, that'll be Obama's fault too....
                      shit, i'm sure some blame him for riverbanks not bein' high enough to stop flooding
                      Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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                      • Satan
                        ROTH ARMY ELITE
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 6664

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
                        The infrastructure in this country needs updating, especially the bridges....

                        But I'm sure if another bridge collapses like it did in MN, that'll be Obama's fault too....
                        It's amazing that Pawlenty even has a snowball's chance in my front yard of being Mittens' running mate after that disaster. Of course if it weren't for that, he wouldn't really be known for anything at all.
                        Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

                        Originally posted by Sockfucker
                        I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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                        • ELVIS
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 44120

                          #13
                          Mittens and Paws ??

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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49567

                            #14
                            It's funny when hicks like Elvis believe we should behind the rest of the industrialized world in infrastructure development...

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                            • ELVIS
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 44120

                              #15
                              What's a high speed train gonna do in California, get the illegals and the welfare bums like asshale to the welfare office and emergence rooms quicker on the taxpayer dime ??

                              But mark my words...

                              This project is going to turn into the most bloated construction project in California history and will be prohibitively expensive to ride...If it's ever completed...

                              BTW, the trains are made in China...

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