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  • Little Texan
    Full Member Status

    • Jan 2004
    • 4579

    Dude resembles Sideshow Bob more than the Joker.

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    • jhale667
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 20929

      Scumbag is officially charged..

      They've doubled the murder charges against him...

      Colorado movie theater gunman charged with multiple counts of murder




      Prosecutors on Monday charged James Holmes with two dozen counts of first-degree murder and slew of other violent offenses related to the recent deadly rampage at a Colorado movie theater.

      Holmes, who appeared in court with the same cartoonish orange-red hair he had at the time of the shooting, said only one word during Monday's hearing.

      "Yes," he answered when asked by the judge if he agreed to waive his right to a preliminary hearing in the next 35 days.

      Police say Holmes, 24, blasted his way through a packed movie house during a premiere showing of Batman "The Dark Knight Rises" in Aurora.

      Twelve victims died in the attack, 58 others were wounded. The melee is among the worst mass shootings in modern-day American history. Prosecutors filed a total of 142 criminal charges against him, including 116 counts of attempted murder. The 24 murder charges reflect dual charges (premeditated and without remorse) by the prosecutors.

      During Monday's hearing, Judge William Sylvester carefully explained to Holmes that the charges carry a minimum sentence of life in prison and a maximum of death. The district attorney near Denver has not announced if she will seek the death penalty against the alleged gunman.

      Holmes was clad in tactical gear and possessed four guns and a stockpile of ammo when he surrendered to officers behind the cinema shortly after the July 20th shooting spree. He did not resist arrest, but investigators have since described the former neuroscience doctoral student as uncooperative.

      Police say Holmes legally purchased the guns in May and June, but allegedly began stockpiling ammo and other gear four months ago.

      "This is not a whodunit. ... The only possible defense is insanity," Craig Silverman, a former chief deputy district attorney in Denver, told the Associated Press.

      At Monday's hearing, attorneys are also expected to argue a defense motion to find out who leaked information to the news media about a package the former grad student allegedly sent to his psychiatrist at the University of Colorado Denver.

      Authorities seized the package July 23, three days after the shooting, after finding it in the mail room of the medical campus where Holmes studied. Several media outlets reported that it contained a notebook with descriptions of an attack, but Arapahoe County District Attorney Carol Chambers said in court papers that the parcel hadn't been opened by the time the "inaccurate" news reports appeared.

      On Friday, court papers revealed that Holmes was seeing a psychiatrist at the university. But they did not say how long he was seeing Dr. Lynne Fenton and if it was for a mental illness or another problem.

      The University of Colorado's website identified Fenton as the medical director of the school's Student Mental Health Services. An online resume listed schizophrenia as one of her research interests and stated that she sees 10 to 15 graduate students a week for medication and psychotherapy, as well as 5 to 10 patients in her general practice as a psychiatrist, the Associated Press reported.

      Under Colorado law, defendants are not legally liable for their acts if their minds are so "diseased" that they cannot distinguish between right and wrong. However, the law warns that "care should be taken not to confuse such mental disease or defect with moral obliquity, mental depravity, or passion growing out of anger, revenge, hatred, or other motives, and kindred evil conditions."

      Experts say there are two levels of insanity defenses. Holmes' public defenders could argue he is not mentally competent to stand trial, like Jared Loughner, who killed six people when he shot Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords in Tucson in 2011. Loughner has pleaded not guilty to charges in the shooting. He has been diagnosed with schizophrenia and is undergoing treatment at a Missouri prison facility in a bid to make him mentally fit to stand trial.

      If Holmes' attorneys cannot convince the court that he is mentally incompetent, and he is convicted, they can try to stave off a possible death penalty by arguing he is mentally ill.

      Sam Kamin, a law professor at the University of Denver, said there is "pronounced" evidence that the attack was premeditated, which would seem to make an insanity defense difficult. "But," he told the Associated Press, "the things that we don't know are what this case is going to hinge on, and that's his mental state."
      Originally posted by conmee
      If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

      That is all.

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      Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
      I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


      Originally posted by Isaac R.
      Then it's really true??

      The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

      OMFG...who in their right mind...???
      Originally posted by eddie78
      I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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      • chefcraig
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Apr 2004
        • 12172

        I'm not being a smart-ass here, but how this jerk can get charged for 24 accounts of murder when he in fact killed 12? I get the premeditated and without remorse part, but wouldn't this open a door for the defence?
        Last edited by chefcraig; 07-30-2012, 01:15 PM.









        “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
        ― Stephen Hawking

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        • Nitro Express
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Aug 2004
          • 32942

          Originally posted by Little Texan
          Dude resembles Sideshow Bob more than the Joker.

          I was thinking Ralf Mouth from Happy Days.
          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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          • jhale667
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 20929

            Originally posted by chefcraig
            I'm not being a smart-ass here, but how this jerk can get charged for 24 accounts of murder when he in fact killed 12? I get the premeditated and without remorse part, but wouldn't this open a door for the defence?

            I wondered about that too...
            Originally posted by conmee
            If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

            That is all.

            Icon.
            Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
            I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


            Originally posted by Isaac R.
            Then it's really true??

            The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

            OMFG...who in their right mind...???
            Originally posted by eddie78
            I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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            • Nitro Express
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 32942

              All it means is the lawyers will make more money.
              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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              • MUSICMANN
                Sniper
                • Apr 2004
                • 837

                What i find to be just as bad, is that this crazy fuckers psychiatrist is not gonna be charged. He was her patient for some time now and she knew that he was ape shit looney. She will hide behind her doctor/patient confidentiality code and go on to protecting some other fuck nut. Couple this with the F.B.I not taking any action because it was politically incorrect on the mad Islamic twit who killed those people at Ft. Hood and it becomes very easy to see that it's not a gun issue but more of people knowing private things about a person and failing to react and expose them before they act out.

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                • LoungeMachine
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 32576

                  Originally posted by Nitro Express
                  All it means is the lawyers will make more money.
                  The PD's and the Prosecutors are on salary.

                  It's to give the jury more options

                  Originally posted by Kristy
                  Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                  Originally posted by cadaverdog
                  I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                  • jhale667
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 20929

                    Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                    The PD's and the Prosecutors are on salary.

                    It's to give the jury more options

                    The dude is probably looking at the death penalty... and since it was clearly premeditated, the insanity defense is going to be a hard sell....
                    Originally posted by conmee
                    If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                    That is all.

                    Icon.
                    Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                    I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                    Originally posted by Isaac R.
                    Then it's really true??

                    The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                    OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                    Originally posted by eddie78
                    I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                    • LoungeMachine
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 32576

                      Originally posted by jhale667
                      The dude is probably looking at the death penalty... and since it was clearly premeditated, the insanity defense is going to be a hard sell....
                      They'll seek it, no doubt. But he prob won't get it.

                      I'm anti-death penalty. I'd rather make him sit in a cell for the next 40 years having to live with the guilt.

                      Originally posted by Kristy
                      Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                      Originally posted by cadaverdog
                      I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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                      • PETE'S BROTHER
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 12678

                        Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                        They'll seek it, no doubt. But he prob won't get it.

                        I'm anti-death penalty. I'd rather make him sit in a cell for the next 40 years having to live with the guilt.

                        very expensive
                        Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!!

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                        • ELVIS
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 44120

                          It's never going to trial just like Jared lee loughner...

                          They will lock this guy away in a mental hospital so none of the conspiracy has the chance to see the light of day in court...

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                          • chefcraig
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 12172

                            Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                            I'm anti-death penalty. I'd rather make him sit in a cell for the next 40 years having to live with the guilt.

                            I'm anti-death penalty as well, yet ironically enough, having said that, I have no qualms whatsoever regarding prison shanking for certain offenders.









                            “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                            ― Stephen Hawking

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                            • DLR Bridge
                              ROCKSTAR

                              • Mar 2011
                              • 5479

                              Originally posted by LoungeMachine
                              They'll seek it, no doubt. But he prob won't get it.

                              I'm anti-death penalty. I'd rather make him sit in a cell for the next 40 years having to live with the guilt.

                              You'd really rather we all pay for this guys warm bed and 3 square meals a day for 40 years? I know lethal injection probably costs a pretty penny, but this is a case where it would be money well spent in my book.

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                              • LoungeMachine
                                DIAMOND STATUS
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 32576

                                Originally posted by DLR Bridge
                                You'd really rather we all pay for this guys warm bed and 3 square meals a day for 40 years? I know lethal injection probably costs a pretty penny, but this is a case where it would be money well spent in my book.
                                Yes, I would.

                                Punishment should never come down to cost, in my opinion.

                                Originally posted by Kristy
                                Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
                                Originally posted by cadaverdog
                                I posted under aliases and I jerk off with a sock. Anything else to add?

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