CIA “Manages” Drug Trade, Mexican Official Says

[binnie]

But to what end? What is the point of destroying society if you're the CIA?

And how do 'control' someone on heroin? 'Lie down, look pasty. Well done.'

If the CIA is as smart as you clearly credit with being - they do have a masterplan, after all - they would surely realise that happy people are easier to control/manipulate than unhappy ones, no? People who live happy, fulfilled and prosperous lives are more likely to toe the line that those who live in a society broken by drugs.

Or maybe that's just me.....

[ELVIS]

There are forces and plans to destroy this country and it's happening...

[binnie]

Again: why destroy it?

What is the motivation? This ain't the movies, Elvis, and supervillains - pure evil with no purpose or motivation but to be evil - do not exist.

Also, let's by logical. If I'm the head of the CIA's 'Masterplan for taking over the US' what would be my first move. Would it be:

a) shut down the internet and all other forms of mass communication.
b) close down power and prevent the transportation of basic supplies.
c) cease all money in bank accounts.
d) make sure that the poorest and most vulnerable in society had a healthy supply of crack and crystal meth?

If my answer is D) then you have nothing to worry about because I am clearly useless at coming up at plans for domination.

[jhale667]

Evil forces...hidden forces...Alex Jones tells me and kitteh!

There are forces and plans to destroy this country and it's happening...

[Nickdfresh]

You're a fool...

The CIA and the attorney general control the drug trade by supplying guns , grenades and other military style weapons to the cartels of their choice to beat out other cartels...

"I'm a fool?" You're a retard sap that believes NRA propaganda and one who has no understanding of the issue. Have you even read the thread that Long Beach posted?

The military is in Afghanistan to regrow and protect the poppy fields that the Taliban destroyed...

Despite the fact they're supporting eradication there and in South America?

If you don't think the government is responsible for flooding our streets with cocaine and other illicit drugs as well as prescription medications, you're foolish...

It's funny how this conspiracy shit only comes out of people like you when we're under a Democratic Admin. I believe similar charges surfaced when Dubya was prez, and you were pretty busy sucking his dick at the time. BTW, you believe the same shit as the "New" (fake) Black Panthers and other urban conspiracy crap...

If they wanted to stop illegals and drugs from coming into the country, they would...

Who's "they?" The gov't? Or the lobbies that want cheap labor available? Although, if you would take your head out of someone's conspiracy asshole of ignorance, you'd be aware that illegal immigration is down significantly to the point of a net loss of immigrants IIRC...

[ELVIS]

That's because there are not even jobs for illegals so they go back to Mexico where the unemployment rate is less than here...

[Blaze]

Again: why destroy it?

What is the motivation? This ain't the movies, Elvis, and supervillains - pure evil with no purpose or motivation but to be evil - do not exist.

Also, let's by logical. If I'm the head of the CIA's 'Masterplan for taking over the US' what would be my first move. Would it be:

a) shut down the internet and all other forms of mass communication.
b) close down power and prevent the transportation of basic supplies.
c) cease all money in bank accounts.
d) make sure that the poorest and most vulnerable in society had a healthy supply of crack and crystal meth?

If my answer is D) then you have nothing to worry about because I am clearly useless at coming up at plans for domination.

Even though I liked your post, I'll take a shot at what I think E is trying to point out.
There will be some points he will not agree with however.

A certain sort of the CIA that has partaken of the cultist mentality of unbridled consumerism would be the corrupt segment of the CIA exploiting loopholes in the CIA bylaws (regulations) that would have the motive.

The motive being to keep society destabilized (self-centric ) and to propagate unbridled consumerist culture. Thus allowing or nurturing a culture of corruption that would value criminal (corrupt) moguls simply for them being moguls.

[Nitro Express]

What really goes on at the CIA? Hell if I know. They don't exactly let you walk in to see what's going on there.

[FORD]

Water is wet. Hell is hot. Romney lies. BCE/CIA deals drugs.

Thank you, Captain Obvious.

[LoungeMachine]

What really goes on at the CIA? Hell if I know.

That's a first

[ELVIS]

Well, Dickforbrains thinks its absurd and he's an expert on everything, so I think it's worth discussing...

[LoungeMachine]

There are forces and plans to destroy this country and it's happening...

wow

You've gone full-tilt batshit crazy.



But hey, knock yourself out. I'm sure you and Blaze will get to the bottom of it all and expose the CIA and their plans to destroy the US any day now from your bunker.

[FORD]

OK, I'll bite. Why, pray tell, would the CIA want a significant proportion of the population to use mind altering drugs?

Well.... let's take an example from the 1960s.....

LSD started out as a CIA mind control substance, and eventually became the hippie drug of choice right about the time the Vietnam war was escalating.

While the anti war movement was effective, to some degree, might it have been even more so if the participants hadn't been tripping balls most of the time?
I'm not saying that Ken Kesey or Timothy Leary were necessarily CIA plants, and obviously The Beatles, the Dead, and the Jefferson Airplane certainly were not. But the timing certainly worked out well for the CIA/BCE/military industrial complex, you have to admit.


(Of course there is also the fact that US involvement in Vietnam in and of itself was more about preserving the "Golden Triangle" opium trade than it was a stand against the Commies. And everybody knows what the #1 cash crop in Afghanistan is, so today's wars aren't any less suspsicious in that regard)

[ZahZoo]

Who's "they?" The gov't? Or the lobbies that want cheap labor available? Although, if you would take your head out of someone's conspiracy asshole of ignorance, you'd be aware that illegal immigration is down significantly to the point of a net loss of immigrants IIRC...

The "they" is a complex web of business, government (all levels... city, county, state & federal) and organized criminal enterprises. I can't speak to any of this CIA angle in the global drug trade although it does seem plausible given the amount of instances the claim has come up.

But I can speak to the complexity and clear involvement at a local level from first hand exposure to it back in the late 70's in central California. I was a cook at a Sambo's restaurant in Gilroy, Ca doing breakfast Mon-Fri, 6-2. Every morning this was a primary business hub for local farmers and business people in the city. It's a small town surrounded by huge agricultural business which relied heavily on "migrant workers" and cheap labor to care and harvest tomatoes, lettuce, onions and garlic.

Even back then there was a direct link between both human and drug trafficking... Gilroy was a central distribution point for heroin, coke and weed flowing out of Mexico. It was also a major distribution point for human trafficking. Back then the Cartel was called the Mexican Mafia or La Familia... they operated openly. They provided the human work force and coordinated shipping workers to the huge farms. Farmers financed local and state politicians and law enforcement to keep the environment friendly to the businesses. Trucking firms hauled people and drugs where ever. The larger groups in the agricultural business funded federal candidates and programs aimed at keeping all this moving.

The amazing thing was most of this "business" was conducted openly over coffee, eggs and pancakes during the day right in the restaurant. Funny everyone around knew what was playing out in that town, but no one dared raising an eyebrow. Today I'm sure it's not as blatantly played out in public... but the same scenario from top to bottom continues... especially in California and the southwest US. To think our federal government isn't up to their elbows in this muck... would be naive to deny...

[ELVIS]

Thanks for the input, Zah...

Nice post...