CIA “Manages” Drug Trade, Mexican Official Says

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  • Nickdfresh
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    • Oct 2004
    • 49567

    #31
    Originally posted by ELVIS
    Well, Dickforbrains thinks its absurd and he's an expert on everything, so I think it's worth discussing...
    No. It's just that they "CIA" has become some sort of bogyman for the ignorant, especially ones that sit up all night listening to cuntspiracy radio...

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    • Nickdfresh
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      • Oct 2004
      • 49567

      #32
      Originally posted by ZahZoo
      The "they" is a complex web of business, government (all levels... city, county, state & federal) and organized criminal enterprises.
      I don't disagree, however there is no overriding organized conspiracy as much as it seems to be a point of mutually coalescing interests...

      I can't speak to any of this CIA angle in the global drug trade although it does seem plausible given the amount of instances the claim has come up.
      The CIA has little interest in getting involved with drug trafficking, that's just silly. They couldn't keep their "secret prisons" for al Qaida suspects secret, but they've kept their dirty-black hand in the drug trade a secret? Really?

      But I can speak to the complexity and clear involvement at a local level from first hand exposure to it back in the late 70's in central California. I was a cook at a Sambo's restaurant in Gilroy, Ca doing breakfast Mon-Fri, 6-2. Every morning this was a primary business hub for local farmers and business people in the city. It's a small town surrounded by huge agricultural business which relied heavily on "migrant workers" and cheap labor to care and harvest tomatoes, lettuce, onions and garlic.

      Even back then there was a direct link between both human and drug trafficking... Gilroy was a central distribution point for heroin, coke and weed flowing out of Mexico. It was also a major distribution point for human trafficking. Back then the Cartel was called the Mexican Mafia or La Familia... they operated openly. They provided the human work force and coordinated shipping workers to the huge farms. Farmers financed local and state politicians and law enforcement to keep the environment friendly to the businesses. Trucking firms hauled people and drugs where ever. The larger groups in the agricultural business funded federal candidates and programs aimed at keeping all this moving.

      The amazing thing was most of this "business" was conducted openly over coffee, eggs and pancakes during the day right in the restaurant. Funny everyone around knew what was playing out in that town, but no one dared raising an eyebrow. Today I'm sure it's not as blatantly played out in public... but the same scenario from top to bottom continues... especially in California and the southwest US. To think our federal government isn't up to their elbows in this muck... would be naive to deny...
      Sure there is a link between drug trafficking and human trafficking, as is the involvement of Mexican organized crime/cartels. But why would the feds have to be up to their elbows in much when often federal law enforcement is outgunned and out-budgeted by these criminal gangs that are now threatening the very stability of Mexico and the sovereignty of the Mexican gov't?

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      • ELVIS
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        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        #33
        It's not a secret...

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        • binnie
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          • May 2006
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          #34
          Originally posted by ZahZoo

          The amazing thing was most of this "business" was conducted openly over coffee, eggs and pancakes during the day right in the restaurant. Funny everyone around knew what was playing out in that town, but no one dared raising an eyebrow. Today I'm sure it's not as blatantly played out in public... but the same scenario from top to bottom continues... especially in California and the southwest US. To think our federal government isn't up to their elbows in this muck... would be naive to deny...
          I've no doubt that that was - and still is - the case. The point is, however, that there is a world of difference between saying 'the police/feds know this is going on and aren't stopping it' (largely because they don't have the 'smoking gun' evidence or the manpower to stop organised crime on that level) and 'the CIA is directly organising the infiltration of drugs into the US - it is the hidden hand that aims to corrupt everything', which seems to be what Elvis is saying.
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          • ELVIS
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            • Dec 2003
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            #35
            Binnie, google 'CIA drug' and just look at the results...

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            • Hardrock69
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              • Feb 2005
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              #36
              Originally posted by Nickdfresh
              I don't disagree, however there is no overriding organized conspiracy as much as it seems to be a point of mutually coalescing interests...

              The CIA has little interest in getting involved with drug trafficking, that's just silly.
              Well, you should just be aware the CIA admitted in sworn testimony before Congress back in the 90s that they were heavily involved in importing cocaine into the US. You can most likely find clips of it on youtube if you look for it. So it is not as silly as you might want to think.

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              • Nitro Express
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                • Aug 2004
                • 32942

                #37


                Starts at 2:40. Stewart Copeland's father was a founding member of the CIA. I wonder if Miles Copeland was running drugs out of Lebanon? The Police were going around the world in 1980. I bet Stewart had drugs in his drums.
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                • Nickdfresh
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                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49567

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Hardrock69
                  Well, you should just be aware the CIA admitted in sworn testimony before Congress back in the 90s that they were heavily involved in importing cocaine into the US. You can most likely find clips of it on youtube if you look for it. So it is not as silly as you might want to think.
                  Source?

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                  • Nickdfresh
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                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49567

                    #39
                    Originally posted by ELVIS
                    Binnie, google 'CIA drug' and just look at the results...


                    That's the problem with the web, they let retards on it that believe everything, have no sense of scholarship nor ability to discern sources for research, seek out evidence to "find the truth" rather than finding the truth through evidence, and are often liars...

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                    • LoungeMachine
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                      • Jul 2004
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by ELVIS
                      Binnie, google 'CIA drug' and just look at the results...
                      Google "Elvis Crazy" and you'll get 55.3 million results.....



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                      • ELVIS
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                        • Dec 2003
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                        #41
                        Google ELVIS and you will get the answer to the universe...

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                        • Blaze
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                          #42
                          Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                          Source?
                          Hitz also testified that the CIA did not "expeditiously" cut off relations with alleged drug traffickers.[18]
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                          • FORD
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by ELVIS
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                            • jhale667
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                              #44
                              Originally posted by ELVIS
                              Google ELVIS and you will get the answer to the universe...

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                              Then it's really true??

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                              • LoungeMachine
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                                • Jul 2004
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by ELVIS
                                Google ELVIS and you will get the answer to the universe...
                                That's funny....



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                                Originally posted by Kristy
                                Dude, what in the fuck is wrong with you? I'm full of hate and I do drugs.
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