Russian Punk Band Pussy Riot Sentenced to 2 Years

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  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    #16
    Keep 'em locked up...

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49567

      #17
      Is that "libertarian" Elvis, LOL...

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      • fourthcoming

        #18
        Seriously.....how fuckin' annoying is Madonna.......

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        • envy_me
          Swedish Love Pump
          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
          • Dec 2010
          • 7180

          #19
          Originally posted by fourthcoming
          Seriously.....how fuckin' annoying is Madonna.......
          I HATE her. She has absolutelly nothing.
          The heart is on the left. The blood is red.

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          • Nickdfresh
            SUPER MODERATOR

            • Oct 2004
            • 49567

            #20
            Originally posted by gbranton
            (1) They are barely a band.
            Not for you to decide, this has nothing to do with taste...

            (2) They knowingly broke the law, then mocked the court.
            Which people do all the time, it doesn't usually result in prison sentences...

            (3) Breaking the same law in Germany would get you three years instead of two and is illegal in America as well.
            I doubt anyone in Germany would let this happen...

            (4) Their "performance" was nothing but a carefully chosen chickenshit stunt, calculated to be profane and offensive as possible. You can be sure these assholes wouldn't have dared to try that shit in a mosque. They wouldn't have lived to tell the tale.
            It wasn't particularly profane, they actually said a prayer, although they used foul language regarding Putin...

            In short, fuck them.

            Part of the appeal of punk is the danger and spontaneity but there is no danger here, only careful calculation. They claim to be a "band" giving a "performance" in order to appeal to the liberal intelligentsia in the worldwide media and create a made to order cause de celebre.

            So, what did they do?:

            On February 21, 2012, five members[1] of the group staged an illegal performance, described as a “punk prayer”, on the soleas of Moscow's Cathedral of Christ the Saviour. During this performance they walked up the steps leading to the altar, shed their winter clothing, pulled colorful winter hats down over their faces, and jumped around punching and kicking for about thirty seconds.[2][3] Their actions were stopped by church security officials. By evening, they had turned it into a music video called “Punk Prayer: Holy Mother, Chase Putin Away!” where they invoked the Virgin Mary to get rid of Russian President Vladimir Putin, using crude language to attack Putin and Kirill I, the Moscow Patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church.[4][5][6] On March 3, after a video of the performance appeared online, three of the group members were arrested and charged with hooliganism.[7]

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pussy_Riot
            So they weren't arrested until AFTER the video appeared online, yeah, it's all about the hooliganism...

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            • ELVIS
              Banned
              • Dec 2003
              • 44120

              #21
              Originally posted by Nickdfresh
              Is that "libertarian" Elvis, LOL...
              I don't mean forever, but they deserve some jail time...

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              • Dr. Love
                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                • Jan 2004
                • 7833

                #22
                Two of them fled the country.



                Pussies.
                I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

                http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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                • Hardrock69
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 21897

                  #23
                  Originally posted by ELVIS
                  I don't mean forever, but they deserve some jail time...
                  So by your point of view, fascist, all punk bands in the US who perform songs, videotape the performance, and upload the video to the internet should be thrown in jail?

                  You are showing your true colors. SIEG HEIL!

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                  • Hardrock69
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 21897

                    #24
                    Originally posted by gbranton

                    (3) Breaking the same law in Germany would get you three years instead of two and is illegal in America as well.
                    No. It is not illegal for any kind of band in the US to perform songs, videotape the performance, and upload the video to the internet.

                    Show us where it is illegal to do so. Musicians can perform songs criticial of the US Government all they want to, without any risk of prosecution whatsoever.

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                    • Seshmeister
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Oct 2003
                      • 35755

                      #25
                      Originally posted by gbranton

                      (3) Breaking the same law in Germany would get you three years instead of two.
                      Not since 1945.

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                      • Blaze
                        Full Member Status

                        • Jan 2009
                        • 4371

                        #26
                        If this is the biggest thing to protest about in Russia. all is well in Russia.
                        Moer sexy Putin pictures please! ^_^

                        "I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. - Some come from ahead and some come from behind. - But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. - Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!" ~ Dr. Seuss
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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49567

                          #27
                          It was just a silly guerrilla theater bit, but if done in a church people get their panties in a wad...

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                          • binnie
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • May 2006
                            • 19145

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Dr. Love
                            Two of them fled the country.



                            Pussies.
                            Must......try......to.......work.....but.......can 't......take.......eyes............off............ ..siggy.................
                            The Power Of The Riff Compels Me

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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 59642

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Hardrock69
                              No. It is not illegal for any kind of band in the US to perform songs, videotape the performance, and upload the video to the internet.

                              Show us where it is illegal to do so. Musicians can perform songs criticial of the US Government all they want to, without any risk of prosecution whatsoever.
                              Hell, bands like Dead Kennedys and Consolidated pretty much made a career out of doing just that!
                              Eat Us And Smile

                              Cenk For America 2024!!

                              Justice Democrats


                              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                              • katina
                                Commando
                                • Mar 2012
                                • 1469

                                #30
                                Persian Gulf on the Moscow River
                                A new report from Boris Nemstov, into the Russian president’s lavish perks of office may help undermine authoritarianism.

                                Soon after Vladimir Putin more-or-less fully consolidated power in 2007, an astute observer of politics in that country predicted some of the main problems the Russian president would soon confront. Comparing his regime to a fascist state, Rutgers University’s Alexander Motyl said it was inherently unstable because cults of vigorous leaders can’t be sustained as they grow old and decrepit.

                                At the same time, he wrote, some segments of society — the young, educated and middle class — would begin refusing to submit to the humiliation his unconditional authority imposes.

                                Opposition leader Boris Nemtsov has been one of their most dogged enablers since he broke with Putin shortly after his rise in 2000. The former deputy prime minister once widely seen as Boris Yeltsin’s chosen successor has co-authored several reports about corruption under the man who eventually beat him out.

                                His latest, released on Tuesday, is a study of the populist president’s perks of office.
                                Titled “Life of a Galley Slave,” after the deprecating description Putin gave of his job when he swore to step down in 2008, it details some of the benefits the authors say have ballooned during his tenure. Among them are 20 residences, including a palace near St. Petersburg that cost tens of millions of dollars to restore, 43 airplanes and fleets of luxury cars and yachts.

                                Using photographs of the president’s various wristwatches, the writers estimate them to be worth almost $700,000, six times his annual salary. His lifestyle, they conclude, can be compared to a “Persian Gulf monarch’s.”

                                As the yawning gap between the Soviet elite’s relative luxury and the lot of everybody else who used newspaper scraps for toilet paper shows, Russians aren’t unused to their leaders’ lavish lifestyles.

                                Nemtsov’s criticism shouldn’t faze Putin for other reasons. Although he no longer enjoys approval ratings of more than 80 percent, he spent much of his twelve years in office preparing for the time his popularity would wane. His firm grip on all important levers of authority as well as the vast energy industry makes his current position virtually unassailable.

                                But Putin is known to be hypersensitive to criticism: for all his power, his authority is brittle in the way of all similar regimes with no real popular mandate. He also surely knows about a recent poll that showed half of Russians are against his running for a fourth term in 2018.

                                If that number is accurate, and if the sentiment grows, last December’s mass protests may help convince him to try to hand over power while he believes he still can, which would provide the opposition with its next real opportunity.

                                However expected it may have been, the brusque manner of his return to a third term prompted the first organized stirrings of those ordinary people who are tired of being humiliated. Reports such as Nemtsov’s are important for maintaining their support for the daily pushback against the Kremlin’s authoritarianism.

                                Last edited by katina; 08-30-2012, 12:51 PM.

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