Corporate Medicine Kills Neil Armstrong

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  • envy_me
    Swedish Love Pump
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Dec 2010
    • 7180

    #31
    Please people, he was 82. If corporate meds could hold me alive for that long, I'd be more then satisfied...
    The heart is on the left. The blood is red.

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 59649

      #32
      Originally posted by ELVIS
      Everything...

      Treating a symptom over and over makes big pharma tons of money and causes insurance rates to go up...

      it does nothing for the underlying cause...

      If someone starts shooting people and killing them in your neighborhood, would you rather find a good treatment for bullet wounds or stop the wounds from happening by containing or killing the shooter ??

      There's no money in cures...
      And yet, you support the continuation of corporatized "health care" which makes this all possible. As well as no restrictions to nutcases and criminals getting their hands on guns, as far as your analogy goes.
      Eat Us And Smile

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 59649

        #33
        Originally posted by BigBadBrian
        Oh, I wasn't aware you were a cardiologist, vascular surgeon, or Pharmacologist.
        You don't need to be one. All you need to know is, if a drug is no more effective at blood thinning than Aspirin, then why not just take Aspirin, and spare the awful side effects.
        Eat Us And Smile

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        • BigBadBrian
          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
          • Jan 2004
          • 10625

          #34
          Originally posted by FORD
          And yet, you support the continuation of corporatized "health care" which makes this all possible. As well as no restrictions to nutcases and criminals getting their hands on guns, as far as your analogy goes.
          If you they think government-run healthcare is going to solve any problems, you are sorely mistaken. Medicare routinely turns down both treatments and medications that are tried and true AND newer medications and treatments because not enough studies have been done to prove they work!!!
          “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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          • Nickdfresh
            SUPER MODERATOR

            • Oct 2004
            • 49567

            #35
            Originally posted by BigBadBrian
            If you they think government-run healthcare is going to solve any problems, you are sorely mistaken. Medicare routinely turns down both treatments and medications that are tried and true AND newer medications and treatments because not enough studies have been done to prove they work!!!
            That's because dolts see some 'wonder drug' with often potentially horrific side-effects adverted on TV, and are told to "go ask your doctor" which is sort of bullshit. One area I'd like to see pharma curtailed and restricted is in their bullshit and massively expended advertizing...

            The premise of this thread is completely "rediculous" as Elvis likes to say, though...

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 59649

              #36
              Originally posted by BigBadBrian
              If you they think government-run healthcare is going to solve any problems, you are sorely mistaken. Medicare routinely turns down both treatments and medications that are tried and true AND newer medications and treatments because not enough studies have been done to prove they work!!!
              Considering all the deaths that have come from pharma poisons that hit the market before they were truly tested in recent years, why would it be a BAD thing not to accept them until they were?

              I'm not saying Medicare is a perfect system without glitches. Saw a recent example of one in my family, though it was actually the private (corporate) insurance who fucked up there, as they attempted to deny coverage for something "because Medicare wouldn't pay for it".

              Ummm... isn't that your job, assholes. Thankfully this was all worked out in the end, but it was a dumb situation in the first place, and wouldn't have existed at all in any other civilized country.
              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • Seshmeister
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Oct 2003
                • 35755

                #37
                Originally posted by ELVIS
                Everything...

                Treating a symptom over and over makes big pharma tons of money and causes insurance rates to go up...

                it does nothing for the underlying cause...

                If someone starts shooting people and killing them in your neighborhood, would you rather find a good treatment for bullet wounds or stop the wounds from happening by containing or killing the shooter ??

                There's no money in cures...
                Utter nonsense.

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                • Seshmeister
                  ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                  • Oct 2003
                  • 35755

                  #38
                  Originally posted by ELVIS
                  And where's that transition fossil ??

                  Hundreds ??

                  Surely you can pull one right off the top of your head ??
                  For all those people who find it more convenient to bother you with their question rather than to Google it for themselves.

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                  • Angel
                    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 7481

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                    That's because dolts see some 'wonder drug' with often potentially horrific side-effects adverted on TV, and are told to "go ask your doctor" which is sort of bullshit. One area I'd like to see pharma curtailed and restricted is in their bullshit and massively expended advertizing...

                    The premise of this thread is completely "rediculous" as Elvis likes to say, though...
                    They're not allowed to advertise like that up here. Of course, with cable we all see them on the US networks anyway...
                    "Ya know what they say about angels... An angel is a supernatural being or spirit, usually humanoid in form, found in various religions and mythologies. Plus Roth fan boards..."- ZahZoo April 2013

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                    • BigBadBrian
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10625

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                      That's because dolts see some 'wonder drug' with often potentially horrific side-effects adverted on TV, and are told to "go ask your doctor" which is sort of bullshit. One area I'd like to see pharma curtailed and restricted is in their bullshit and massively expended advertizing...
                      I agree with that.
                      “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                      • BigBadBrian
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 10625

                        #41
                        Originally posted by FORD

                        Ummm... isn't that your job, assholes. Thankfully this was all worked out in the end, but it was a dumb situation in the first place, and wouldn't have existed at all in any other civilized country.
                        A lot of companies rely on Medicare standards as to whether they'll pay or not. They figure if Uncle Sam doesn't think something is effective or if it's unsafe, why should they be on the hook for the tab?
                        “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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