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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35209

    Originally posted by baru911
    I'm confused.....

    I was being sarcastic about Soros in my "What a guy" comment. He's the liberal Koch brothers. Very rich and funds projects that support his point-of-view. Nothing illegal about doing that. However, both he and Buffett have made millions for others and for retirement systems in the USA.
    We know now though it was never real money, the whole system is basically a scam.

    Anyhoo I don't care if they are right or left they're all parasitic cunts.

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    • hideyoursheep
      ROTH ARMY ELITE
      • Jan 2007
      • 6351

      Originally posted by baru911
      I'm confused.....

      the sponge/leech, unemployed, welfare recipient who loves the governmental system that provides we a check every month for doing nothing
      .....
      Yeah, that's how I would describe Blackwater OR Triple Canopy....

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      • baru911
        Head Fluffer
        • Jun 2012
        • 298

        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
        Nice job backpedaling from your "self-made" myths. But it shows that you're an idiot, a disingenuous liar, or trolling...
        Nick, you truly are down on what you aren’t up on.

        It’s funny that I have provided facts in my post in this thread dealing with:

        1) tax rates – even backed up with a link that you guys wanted. The CBO latest study shows that the top earners flip about 70% of the tax bill. No one ever answered the question what % was deemed to be the “right” percentage that you fuckin’ slacker/leeches on the left want drained from the people who tend to work their asses off to generate that wealth? FORD did state that he thought 100% should be paid by the 3rd generation that inherits their money. Of course all that would cause is more trust to be set-up so the money stays out of the Federal Government’s hands and they can’t spend it.

        2) I wrote about going to the capitalistic/socialistic blend of government that Singapore has as a form of Government. It seems that no one wants anything to do with it. The only reason I can see is that it causes people to become responsible for themselves and they have to (dare I say it) WORK to get a “welfare” check. What’s so foreign about that? I’m guessing most of you guys work to put food on your tables. Why shouldn’t other people do the same? Oh, I forgot as liberals with all the answers you don’t want people to be responsible for themselves nor do you want them to work for their “welfare” checks. Better they sit at home and stay a part of your DNC voting block right? Also, I'm also betting that the whole Singapore hanging thing for drug-related crimes causes you guys some issues. No more bong hits!

        3) Backpedaling? A post gets written stating that Warren Buffett, George Soros, and the Koch brothers don’t work for their wealth and then I point out the fallacy of the post and I’m backpedaling? Facts seem to be nothing to you. The list did have 2 of the Walton kids on it. Sam was a smart man and yes, I do wish they still supported American made products. However, NAFTA kind of killed the whole middle class manufacturing base here in the good old USA. Got to hand it to Clinton for not pulling out the veto for that mess that has come full circle to haunt the US economy.

        You’re watching too much of the HBO series The Newsroom. I ain’t trolling but noting the reaction I get in here I guess I could be a part of some secret troll message board that they refer to because all of you seem to hate it and your GROUP THINK QI gets pretty fucked-up when someone challenges you guys with a bit of facts. All that comes back is name calling, or something like…."Hey, that’s a talking point"...LMAO.

        On a matter of true interest......I never got to ask the question – If you weren’t a Marine then what branch of the service were you in while in Iraq?
        Last edited by baru911; 09-03-2012, 03:16 PM.
        Just remember boys and girls, to get Nick the Dick and his partner FORD off your porch when they come to your home you just need to pay them for the pizza.

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        • baru911
          Head Fluffer
          • Jun 2012
          • 298

          Originally posted by hideyoursheep
          Yeah, that's how I would describe Blackwater OR Triple Canopy....
          ROFLMAO....was that directed at me?

          Psst......your signature quote is a bit politically incorrect these days noting the whole Jerry Sandusky thing at Penn State. You might not be able to attend your next Occupy Wall Street protest if you continue to post things here on the forum and your "Brothers in Arms" find out about it. God forbid if you couldn't attend your next tent city meeting. I promise not to tell anyone though and I hope that others here will keep your secret non-PC way of thinking safe also.

          I do like your avatar...."I'm drinking wine and eating cheese, and catching some rays, you know". OR "A DEAL, deal! Maybe the guy's a Republican. "Business is business," right?"
          Last edited by baru911; 09-03-2012, 03:19 PM.
          Just remember boys and girls, to get Nick the Dick and his partner FORD off your porch when they come to your home you just need to pay them for the pizza.

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          • binnie
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • May 2006
            • 19145

            I'm pretty ambivalent about tax rates. Largely because I recognize that even they were much, much higher those with the money and resources to do so would avoid paying whatever the rate is set at. So it's all an argument about nothing.

            That being said, what people in almost all Western societies have to acknowledge is that in the last 30 years the gap in wealth between the very wealthiest and the very poorest in society has become larger - or, to put it in basic terms, if you are born poor and disadvantaged you are now more likely to die that way than at an point since the Second World War. That has to be a sign of moving in the wrong way, right? It also makes a mockery of the idea that 'if you work really, really hard, you can achieve anything' - a rule of thumb, perhaps, but contextualise the total data and the stats don't bear it out.

            The question becomes how do we reverse the trend? Will shifting the tax burden onto the very wealthy help? I'm not so sure - the answer might not be purely fiscal. It needs to involve society working more closely together and creating ways - clear, visible ways - for talented, willing and able people to be able to make their way up the social ladder. Is that the government's job? In my mind, yes; but it seems that many Americans see things differently.
            The Power Of The Riff Compels Me

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            • hideyoursheep
              ROTH ARMY ELITE
              • Jan 2007
              • 6351

              Originally posted by baru911
              ROFLMAO....was that directed at me?
              Yes, it was.

              So are you going to sac up and start a thread attempting to explain your oxymoronic stance on private contractors being used in a combat zone and calling yourself "conservative"?

              The rest of your previous post was hot garbage and doesn't deserve to be quoted.

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              • hideyoursheep
                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                • Jan 2007
                • 6351

                Originally posted by baru911
                On a matter of true interest......I never got to ask the question – If you weren’t a Marine then what branch of the service were you in while in Iraq?
                ...And WTF does this mean?!

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                • baru911
                  Head Fluffer
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 298

                  Originally posted by hideyoursheep
                  Yes, it was.

                  So are you going to sac up and start a thread attempting to explain your oxymoronic stance on private contractors being used in a combat zone and calling yourself "conservative"?

                  The rest of your previous post was hot garbage and doesn't deserve to be quoted.
                  In the future I won't comment on your avatar then and won't quote Oddball's lines from Kelly's Heroes. Maybe you just like the photo. Don't know.

                  If you look back at post 137 in this thread it appeared to me that you were using a line about a little boy as a signature. Since I don't tend to spend all my time on this forum or online for that matter I made a mistake and misidentified that quote. Looking at it now you quoted the post but did not write anything about it - again, my mistake and that's what the rest of my post was in reference to and my comments were about or as you refer to it - my "hot garbage".

                  On the contractor thread - maybe I'll start one. Then we can see how many of you guys pile in and go insane because I'll point out logically that contractors are needed in US war zones and why.

                  Originally posted by hideyoursheep
                  ...And WTF does this mean?!
                  Nick wrote he wasn't a Marine. I was asking what branch of the service he was in since he writes about being in Iraq and I think he has posted about being present in Fallujah during combat. Did I get that wrong?
                  Last edited by baru911; 09-03-2012, 05:22 PM.
                  Just remember boys and girls, to get Nick the Dick and his partner FORD off your porch when they come to your home you just need to pay them for the pizza.

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                  • motherchicken
                    Registered User
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 1017

                    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                    You're not underemployed, you're just incompetent and most everything you do turns to shit...
                    Lazy maybe, but not incompetent. I just got tired of working my ass off and watching my boss get richer and richer while crying poverty every time the subject of money came up. Or working at a job with unrealistic quotas that are set just so they can deny you raises and keep the non brown nosers in their place. No coincidence most of the workers are third wold immigrants. Or working at some place like Walmart where they push concepts like time management because they don't hire enough people to do the job.
                    I don't know what you do but if you're so successful why do you bitch so much about the government and how this country is run?
                    But I can be lazy . I work for the government now. Your tax dollars go to pay me. Keep on railing about rich people not paying enough taxes. I could use another raise.

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                    • motherchicken
                      Registered User
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 1017

                      Originally posted by baru911
                      In the future I won't comment on your avatar then and won't quote Oddball's lines from Kelly's Heroes. Maybe you just like the photo. Don't know.

                      If you look back at post 137 in this thread it appeared to me that you were using a line about a little boy as a signature. Since I don't tend to spend all my time on this forum or online for that matter I made a mistake and misidentified that quote. Looking at it now you quoted the post but did not write anything about it - again, my mistake and that's what the rest of my post was in reference to and my comments were about or as you refer to it - my "hot garbage".

                      On the contractor thread - maybe I'll start one. Then we can see how many of you guys pile in and go insane because I'll point out logically that contractors are needed in US war zones and why.



                      Nick wrote he wasn't a Marine. I was asking what branch of the service he was in since he writes about being in Iraq and I think he has posted about being present in Fallujah during combat. Did I get that wrong?
                      I think I saw a post where he said he had served in the Army. Never saw anything about overseas duty though. He claims to be 42. Unless he was a carreer soldier if he did see action it was probably in the first gulf war.

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49219

                        Originally posted by baru911
                        In the future I won't comment on your avatar then and won't quote Oddball's lines from Kelly's Heroes. Maybe you just like the photo. Don't know.

                        If you look back at post 137 in this thread it appeared to me that you were using a line about a little boy as a signature. Since I don't tend to spend all my time on this forum or online for that matter I made a mistake and misidentified that quote. Looking at it now you quoted the post but did not write anything about it - again, my mistake and that's what the rest of my post was in reference to and my comments were about or as you refer to it - my "hot garbage".

                        On the contractor thread - maybe I'll start one. Then we can see how many of you guys pile in and go insane because I'll point out logically that contractors are needed in US war zones and why.



                        Nick wrote he wasn't a Marine. I was asking what branch of the service he was in since he writes about being in Iraq and I think he has posted about being present in Fallujah during combat. Did I get that wrong?

                        I never said I was in Fallujah, dummy. Are you drunk? Why don't you tell me your branch you served in?

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49219

                          Originally posted by motherchicken
                          I think I saw a post where he said he had served in the Army. Never saw anything about overseas duty though. He claims to be 42. Unless he was a carreer soldier if he did see action it was probably in the first gulf war.
                          Wow, sockfucker is actually showing some analytical skills....

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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49219

                            Originally posted by motherchicken
                            Lazy maybe, but not incompetent. I just got tired of working my ass off and watching my boss get richer and richer while crying poverty every time the subject of money came up. Or working at a job with unrealistic quotas that are set just so they can deny you raises and keep the non brown nosers in their place. No coincidence most of the workers are third wold immigrants. Or working at some place like Walmart where they push concepts like time management because they don't hire enough people to do the job.
                            I don't know what you do but if you're so successful why do you bitch so much about the government and how this country is run?
                            But I can be lazy . I work for the government now. Your tax dollars go to pay me. Keep on railing about rich people not paying enough taxes. I could use another raise.
                            LOL Really?

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                            • Redballjets88
                              Full Member Status

                              • Mar 2005
                              • 4469

                              Check mark- nick saying nothing once again. Good
                              Job nick you've officially gone the whole
                              Week I've been back without saying anything that wasn't just a mere insult. You tell
                              Me I need to get laid but shit I have no clue how you would ever do that with such a shit attitude. But then again since you're a narcissist jerking off is probably better than sex.
                              R.I.P Van Halen 1978-1984

                              hopefully God will ressurect you

                              "i wont be messing with you in future.the fearsome redballjets88 for fear of you owning me some more" Axl S


                              " I liked Sammy Hagar " FORD

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                              • Nickdfresh
                                SUPER MODERATOR

                                • Oct 2004
                                • 49219

                                Originally posted by Redballjets88
                                Check mark- nick saying nothing once again. Good
                                Job nick you've officially gone the whole
                                Week I've been back without saying anything that wasn't just a mere insult. You tell
                                Me I need to get laid but shit I have no clue how you would ever do that with such a shit attitude. But then again since you're a narcissist jerking off is probably better than sex.
                                Why don't you say something, Redballssuck? Or should I pick apart your shit posts? Is it too late to register for community college in Texass?

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