Most Americans say the rich don't pay enough taxes

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  • ZahZoo
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Jan 2004
    • 8973

    #46
    Originally posted by fifth element
    the IRS is against the idea of a flat tax because in having oine we would essentially do away w/ the need for the IRS.

    http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServ...me=about_bills
    That's quite true... In addition, it would cause a serious economic impact to all of the huge accounting and tax preparation industry supporting this complex tax system we've burdened ourselves with. But to me that's still not a good reason to keep doing what we're doing... over-haul and let the market adjust from the downsizing of the IRS and the sub-industry it spawned!!
    "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49219

      #47
      Originally posted by motherchicken
      What kind of fucked up bullshit logic is that? You sure you're not a politician?
      Go back to fucking your mansock and deliberating who makes the best floor buffer...

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      • ELVIS
        Banned
        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        #48
        Originally posted by motherchicken
        What kind of fucked up bullshit logic is that? You sure you're not a politician?
        That depends on what you're definition of "fucked up bullshit logic" is...


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        • Nickdfresh
          SUPER MODERATOR

          • Oct 2004
          • 49219

          #49
          Maybe Alex Jones can tell us? That way no one has to actually think for themselves or use esoteric critical thinking skills...

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          • motherchicken
            Registered User
            • Nov 2009
            • 1017

            #50
            Originally posted by Nickdfresh
            Maybe Alex Jones can tell us? That way no one has to actually think for themselves or use esoteric critical thinking skills...
            Does he make assinine statement like "paying the same percentage isn't really paying the same percentage" like you do? If that's how you think for yourself you might consider outsourcing.

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 58825

              #51
              Originally posted by motherchicken
              Does he make assinine statement like "paying the same percentage isn't really paying the same percentage" like you do? If that's how you think for yourself you might consider outsourcing.
              Let's break down the math here into terms you can understand.....

              YOU go to WalMart and buy a 6 pack of tube socks.

              Mittens tells Bain Capital to buy the company that makes the socks.

              Now the Internal Laundromat Service wants 33% of your socks.

              If Mittens doesn't dodge his sock tax or stash half of his socks overseas, and actually pays his 33%, he's still got a lot of socks left over.

              But if you have to give up 2 pairs of socks out of your 6 pack, that's two days next week that you can't get laid

              So is a flat sock tax fair, or not?
              Eat Us And Smile

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              • motherchicken
                Registered User
                • Nov 2009
                • 1017

                #52
                Originally posted by FORD
                Let's break down the math here into terms you can understand.....

                YOU go to WalMart and buy a 6 pack of tube socks.

                Mittens tells Bain Capital to buy the company that makes the socks.

                Now the Internal Laundromat Service wants 33% of your socks.

                If Mittens doesn't dodge his sock tax or stash half of his socks overseas, and actually pays his 33%, he's still got a lot of socks left over.

                But if you have to give up 2 pairs of socks out of your 6 pack, that's two days next week that you can't get laid

                So is a flat sock tax fair, or not?
                And this has what to do with "paying the same percentage is not paying the same percentage"? The percentage doesn't change only the amount that the percentage calculates to changes.
                I understand that 10% of a persons income making 100,000 dollars a year although a lesser amount than 10% of what a person making 1,000.000 is more of a burden considering what's left. One person has 90,000 left, the other has 900,000. But why should the guy with 900,000 left give up more than he's already given just because he has it?

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                • So this is love
                  Veteran
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 2394

                  #53
                  ....to all the soldiers in here that have the energy to argue day in and day out about what America has to offer politically..........I salute you!
                  Now who`s that babe with the fab-u-lous shad-ow?

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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #54
                    Originally posted by motherchicken
                    But why should the guy with 900,000 left give up more than he's already given just because he has it?
                    He shouldn't...

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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 58825

                      #55
                      Originally posted by ELVIS
                      He shouldn't...
                      OK.... guess we have to break out an example that Elvis can understand too....

                      You have 10 Yingyang Egosteen CD's.

                      Best Buy's corporate warehouse has 1 million YingYang Egosteen CD's.

                      If both you and Best Buy have to give up 10% of your YingYang Egosteen CD's, who is losing more?
                      Eat Us And Smile

                      Cenk For America 2024!!

                      Justice Democrats


                      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                      • motherchicken
                        Registered User
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 1017

                        #56
                        Originally posted by ELVIS
                        He shouldn't...
                        No Shit. If someone wants to pay more taxes because they feel morally obligated then they should be able to. But that shouldn't obligate someone else with a different opinion. The same with the concept you should feel morally obligated to reinvest your extra income back into society. If you feel like it, do it. If it's your money you should be able to do whatever you want with it. As long as it's legal that is.

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                        • motherchicken
                          Registered User
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 1017

                          #57
                          Originally posted by FORD
                          OK.... guess we have to break out an example that Elvis can understand too....

                          You have 10 Yingyang Egosteen CD's.

                          Best Buy's corporate warehouse has 1 million YingYang Egosteen CD's.

                          If both you and Best Buy have to give up 10% of your YingYang Egosteen CD's, who is losing more?
                          Trick question. No one is the correct answer. Those CD's are worthless.

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                          • motherchicken
                            Registered User
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 1017

                            #58
                            Originally posted by FORD
                            OK.... guess we have to break out an example that Elvis can understand too....

                            You have 10 Yingyang Egosteen CD's.

                            Best Buy's corporate warehouse has 1 million YingYang Egosteen CD's.

                            If both you and Best Buy have to give up 10% of your YingYang Egosteen CD's, who is losing more?
                            It's not a matter of not understanding. You think people who make more money should pay a higher percentage of taxes simply because they have it to spend. I disagree.

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                            • ELVIS
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2003
                              • 44120

                              #59
                              So do I...

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                              • FORD
                                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                                • Jan 2004
                                • 58825

                                #60
                                Originally posted by motherchicken
                                Trick question. No one is the correct answer. Those CD's are worthless.
                                That's not the point, sockfucker!
                                Eat Us And Smile

                                Cenk For America 2024!!

                                Justice Democrats


                                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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