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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49567

    #91
    Originally posted by baru911
    Who care who owns what? I'm supposed to feel bad because either I or someone in my family worked hard enough to get into the position of owning something or creating something that allowed me and/or my family to become rich?
    Who worked hard enough? The people who left it to you?

    Should I hate on Bill Gates because he was smart enough to come up with an operating system that made IBM's new computer work and he was smart enough not to sell it to them but license it? How about Warren Buffett? Should I hate on him because he studied stocks and companies and was smart enough to find winners in the stock market and build Berkshire Hathaway? How about George Soros? How about the Koch brothers? No wait, I should hate on Sam Walton or his children for Wal-Mart. Sure.
    No, you should hate Bill Gates because of his monopolistic tendencies. But both Gates and Buffett believe they should have to pay more in taxes rather than being able to option money in shelters and simply pay less on dividends than most working people pay in their checks...

    Take a look at the top 10 richest Americans. That ain't old money. That's people earning it.

    According to Forbes 9-21-11 list
    1) Bill Gates
    2) Warren Buffett
    3) Larry Ellison
    4) Charles Koch
    5) David Koch
    6) Christy Walton
    7) George Soros
    8) Sheldon Adelson
    9) Jim Walton
    10) Alice Walton
    Um, LOL, the Walton's are old money who inherited most of their empire from Sam, then turned into jackals. And almost everybody on that list including Soros, Buffett and Gates come from upper middle class or well-to-do families. None of them came from "The Ghet'toh."
    Last edited by Nickdfresh; 09-02-2012, 09:17 AM.

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49567

      #92
      Originally posted by ELVIS
      So the government should confiscate the "wealth" and give some to you ??
      Elvis, maybe once you can actually come up with something more than monosyllabic, lazy cliches?

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      • ELVIS
        Banned
        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        #93
        What for ??

        My simple posting style is already beyond your comprehension level...

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        • Nickdfresh
          SUPER MODERATOR

          • Oct 2004
          • 49567

          #94
          Well, it's beyond yours anyways...

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          • Blaze
            Full Member Status

            • Jan 2009
            • 4371

            #95
            Originally posted by baru911
            Since you are liberal and have grown up in a world in which you expect others to do your work I guess it was too hard for you to type into a search engine "CBO 2009 Tax Report". I understand the world in which you live simple needs to serve you as you can't think nor take care of yourself. Thus, as a self-reliant evil capitalist who worked hard to build something in his life I'll have to provide you with a link to the study as I provide everything else in our ever increasing "You owe me something even though I never worked for it society".

            Link:


            Read page 3 heading Distribution of Federal Taxes Across Income Scale, second paragraph...."In 2009, households in the highest quintile received 50.8 percent of before-tax income and paid 67.9 percent of federal taxes; households in the top 1 percent received 13.4 percent of income and paid 22.3 percent of taxes (see Figure 2 on page 9)."

            Same page, same paragraph...."Households in the bottom quintile received 5.1 percent of income and paid 0.3 percent of taxes,...."

            Sure, both the CBO and I are making this up.
            Actually what that shows is the middle quntile and the fourth quintile are getting surprise sex aka raped.
            "I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. - Some come from ahead and some come from behind. - But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. - Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!" ~ Dr. Seuss
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            • Seshmeister
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Oct 2003
              • 35755

              #96
              Originally posted by baru911
              Take a look at the top 10 richest Americans. That ain't old money. That's people earning it.
              According to Forbes 9-21-11 list
              1) Bill Gates
              2) Warren Buffett -Bookie
              3) Larry Ellison
              4) Charles Koch -Inherited Oil Company
              5) David Koch - Inherited Oil Company
              6) Christy Walton - Inherited Wal-Mart
              7) George Soros - Bookie
              8) Sheldon Adelson Mobster
              9) Jim Walton-Inherited Wal-Mart
              10) Alice Walton Inherited Wal-Mart -
              Last edited by Seshmeister; 09-02-2012, 12:15 PM.

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              • baru911
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                • Jun 2012
                • 298

                #97
                Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                Do my work? No, I just expect you not to be a lazy, incompetent and to post your own links, dick......
                I think I was addressing Blaze there. However, it seems to have struck an internal chord within in you and you answered it. If the shoe fits about being a lazy leech who am I to disagree with your internal compus. Do you like being a leech and a quitter?

                You're the Marine douchebag who knows so little of the Middle East but wants to sound like a know it all. Dude, thanks for your service but with your attitude the Corps is alot better off with you looking in from the outside. More than likely you got a bad performance review based on your know it all attitude and you had to get out or be bounced out. Quitter!



                Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                Thanks asshole whose claimed previous career was based on gov't handout contracts and war-profiteering...you know, gov't make-work programs paid for by federal taxes that increase the deficit?..
                War-profiteering? LMAO. Poor Nick. Did you looked over at the Blackwater guys while in Iraq, felt they had it better than you? Poor baby. Did you envy all the cool shit to play with and hated the fact you had to kick in doors? Could you pity yourself anymore? Cry to someone who cares. Either embrace the suck and move forward or keep being the quitter you know yourself to be internally and get out of the way. I know you hate yourself because you quit whenever it gets hard. I pity you.
                Last edited by baru911; 09-02-2012, 01:28 PM.
                Just remember boys and girls, to get Nick the Dick and his partner FORD off your porch when they come to your home you just need to pay them for the pizza.

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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49567

                  #98
                  Originally posted by baru911
                  I think I was addressing Blaze there. However, it seems to have struck an internal chord within in you and you answered it. If the shoe fits about being a lazy leech who am I to disagree with your internal compus.
                  I don't have a "compus." Is that some sort of cyst? Feel bad about your lazy shoe though...

                  Do you like being a leech and a quitter?
                  I did not enjoy being a leech as people kept burning me with their cigarettes and matches....

                  You're the Marine douchebag who knows so little of the Middle East but wants to sound like a know it all. Dude, thanks for your service but with your attitude the Corps is alot better off with you looking in from the outside. More than likely you got a bad performance review based on your know it all attitude and you had to get out or be bounced out. Quitter!
                  I was never a "marine douchebag," dummy. You're not very smart are you as you seem to have many basic facts wrong. We can't all be expert Middle Eastern fuckups like you...

                  War-profiteering? LMAO. Poor Nick. Did you looked over at the Blackwater guys while in Iraq, felt they had it better than you? Poor baby. Did you envy all the cool shit to play with and hated the fact you had to kick in doors? Could you pity yourself anymore? Cry to someone who cares. Either embrace the suck and move forward or keep being the quitter you know yourself to be internally and get out of the way. I know you hate yourself because you quit whenever it gets hard. I pity you.
                  There weren't any Blackwater scumfucks in Iraq when I was there, so no I "didn't looked over at the Blackwater pussies while in Iraq." Dude, really? You're calling me a "quitter?" Um, you pissed all over your panties a few weeks back in this forum because someone was mean to you. Douchebag...
                  Last edited by Nickdfresh; 09-02-2012, 02:17 PM.

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 59647

                    #99
                    Originally posted by baru911
                    Take a look at the top 10 richest Americans. That ain't old money. That's people earning it.

                    According to Forbes 9-21-11 list
                    1) Bill Gates
                    2) Warren Buffett
                    3) Larry Ellison
                    4) Charles Koch
                    5) David Koch
                    6) Christy Walton
                    7) George Soros
                    8) Sheldon Adelson
                    9) Jim Walton
                    10) Alice Walton
                    Earned it? I see 2 KKKochs and 3 Waltons on that list. Half of that top 10 list are inheritance leeches. And the list itself was published by Steve Forbes, another inheritance leech.

                    BTW, as far as Sam Walton goes, his version of WalMart was still somewhat predatory because his business model was always based on going into small towns, and gutting all the local businesses who couldn't possibly compete with his buying power.

                    But at least old Sam prided himself in selling only American products. So he was still a bastard, but not a treasonous bastard like his kids who have sold out to Communist China.

                    Fred KKKoch, on the other hand, made his money by selling oil equipment to Soviet commie dictator Joe Stalin. And then founded the John Birch Society so he could rant about how much he hated the Commies who made him rich, and scare a bunch of two digit IQ morons into believing they were hiding under every rock.

                    So he was a treasonous bastard from the beginning. Just like his hellspawns Chuck and Dave.
                    Last edited by FORD; 09-02-2012, 04:22 PM.
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                    • FORD
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                      • Jan 2004
                      • 59647

                      Oh, and Sheldon Adelson... Likud warmonger who launders money for the Chinese mob through his Macau casino...

                      Treason on two different fronts there. Or three, since he's also bankrolling Mittens/Munster.
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                      • baru911
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                        • Jun 2012
                        • 298

                        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                        There weren't any Blackwater scumfucks in Iraq when I was there, so no I "didn't looked over at the Blackwater pussies while in Iraq." Dude, really? You're calling me a "quitter?" Um, you pissed all over your panties a few weeks back in this forum because someone was mean to you. Douchebag...
                        I believe I let my feelings show because of a continuous racist remark by FORD. You know the whole KKK thing and them burning a cross in my grandfather’s yard. Being the Roth Army’s “Mr. Know It All” you’d think you could remember the little things like facts. Of course, you forget facts when they don’t meet with your point-of-view. BTW, hey FORD....Hows Rocky Road doing? When was the last time he was relevant again? Oh, that's right...NEVER. He can't even get on the ballot in states like Indiana. What a fucking loser! Did you know that FORD? He can't get enough support to get on a ballot in Indiana and he's a "national" candidate? WOW! Thanks makes me laugh. What a joke and disappointment his "run" for the White House is when compared to someone like John Huntsman who most people have at least heard of in this passing political season. CHrist, John Huntsman was totally irrelevant and MSNBC pimped him all the time.

                        Speaking of facts, Nick - your Middle East views are great broad strokes of the situations there. You come across as a person who gets by in life by reading the cliff notes and then throws out his “observations” in an attempt to impress. However, if your audience gets beyond the surface of your “observations” there is little to nothing there. Kind of a metaphor for your whole life isn’t it, Nick? All show and nothing else there at the end of the day.

                        Bitch, moan, complain and blame others for your life all you want to and oh my you do it a lot here within these forums. Oh, how unfair it all is. How unfair poor hopeless Nick’s life is. Cry a river, ass boy. However, in the morning when you look into the mirror you know you’re a fraud and a quitter. Maybe if you put as much effort into your hollow existence as you do your post here you’d be more successful. Maybe you’d be happier.
                        Last edited by baru911; 09-02-2012, 04:38 PM.
                        Just remember boys and girls, to get Nick the Dick and his partner FORD off your porch when they come to your home you just need to pay them for the pizza.

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                        • FORD
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                          • Jan 2004
                          • 59647

                          Originally posted by baru911
                          I believe I let my feelings show because of a continuous racist remark by FORD.
                          FORD does not make racist remarks.

                          You know the whole KKK thing and them burning a cross in my grandfather’s yard.
                          And yet you continue to support the political party of Nixon's "southern strategy" and Reagan, who launched his campaign in the very town where three civil rights leaders were murdered. He may have been senile himself, but his advisers knew damn well what they were doing. And that was before the BCE hijacked his campaign.
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                          • baru911
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                            • Jun 2012
                            • 298

                            Originally posted by FORD
                            FORD does not make racist remarks. And yet you continue to support the political party of Nixon's "southern strategy" and Reagan, who launched his campaign in the very town where three civil rights leaders were murdered. He may have been senile himself, but his advisers knew damn well what they were doing. And that was before the BCE hijacked his campaign.
                            FORD, does make racist remarks from my point-of-view. I’ve explained where my view comes from and FORD continues in his racist remarks. Thus, FORD is a racist in my view.

                            Its is nice that you and Chris Matthews continue to point out things that others do that are racist. According to Chris just saying anything or questioning the gang killings in Chicago makes that individual a racist. I guess David Gregory at NBC’s Meet the Press is a racist since he asked Rahm Emanuel about the murder rate in Chicago this morning. BTW, didn’t Reagan launch and announce his candidacy in New York City just like Huntsman did?
                            Just remember boys and girls, to get Nick the Dick and his partner FORD off your porch when they come to your home you just need to pay them for the pizza.

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                            • FORD
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                              • Jan 2004
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                              Reagan announced his candidacy in Philadelphia Mississippi, and the theme of his speech was "states rights".
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                              • baru911
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                                • Jun 2012
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                                I was wrong - Both of them announced at Liberty State Park in NJ. Statue of Liberty being in the background throws me off.
                                Just remember boys and girls, to get Nick the Dick and his partner FORD off your porch when they come to your home you just need to pay them for the pizza.

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