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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49567

    Internet Paranoia Bullshit and the Fuckwits at Infowhores...

    Why does Social Security need 174,000 bullets?
    By STEPHEN OHLEMACHER | Associated Press – 7 hrs ago

    WASHINGTON (AP) — It didn't take long for the Internet to start buzzing with conspiracy theories after the Social Security Administration posted a notice that it was purchasing 174,000 hollow-point bullets.

    Why is the agency that provides benefits to retirees, disabled workers, widows and children stockpiling ammunition? Whom are they going to use it on?

    "It's not outlandish to suggest that the Social Security Administration is purchasing the bullets as part of preparations for civil unrest," the website Infowars.com said.

    Another website, The Daily Caller, said the bullets must be for use against American citizens, "since the SSA has never been used overseas to help foreign countries maintain control of their citizens."

    The clamor became such a distraction for the agency that it dedicated a website to explaining the purchase. The explanation, it turns out, isn't as tantalizing as an arms buildup to defend against unruly senior citizens.

    The bullets are for Social Security's office of inspector general, which has about 295 agents who investigate Social Security fraud and other crimes, said Jonathan L. Lasher, the agency's assistant IG for external relations.

    The agents carry guns and make arrests — 589 last year, Lasher said. They execute search warrants and respond to threats against Social Security offices, employees and customers.

    Agents carry .357 caliber pistols, Lasher said. The bullets, which add up to about 590 per agent, are for the upcoming fiscal year. Most will be expended on the firing range.

    Some bloggers have taken issue with the type of ammunition the agency is buying, questioning why agents need hollow-point bullets. Hollow-points are known for causing more tissue damage than other bullets when they hit a person because they expand when they enter the body.

    The bullets, however, are standard issue for many law enforcement agencies, Lasher said, a fact confirmed by the directors of two law enforcement training centers.

    "For practice ammunition, they do not have to be hollow-points, but hollow-points are the normal police round used for duty ammunition due to their ability to stop when they hit an object as opposed to going through it and striking more objects," said William J. Muldoon, president of the International Association of Directors of Law Enforcement Standards and Training.

    "Six hundred rounds per year for training, qualification and I would assume to carry on duty is not out of line at all," said John W. Worden, director of the University of Missouri's Law Enforcement Training Institute. "Hollow points are carried by law enforcement all over the country and are probably the preferred type of ammo no matter what caliber."

    The episode illustrates what can happen when a seemingly salacious tidbit gets amplified and embellished on the Internet.

    A few weeks ago, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration had a similar dustup when it solicited bids for 46,000 rounds of ammunition and shooting targets, seemingly to arm workers at the National Weather Service. It turns out the notice had a clerical error and the bullets were for NOAA's Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement, the agency said.

    Social Security's turn in the pillory hit a crescendo when Jay Leno joked about it in a recent monologue on "The Tonight Show." ''What senior citizens are they worried about?" Leno asked. "I mean, who's going to storm the building?"

    Lasher said, "That's why we opened a blog post. We were getting a lot of inquiries and the blog gave us a vehicle to put all of the accurate information out there in one place, so that those who are interested or concerned can read what the real story is."

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  • DONNIEP
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Mar 2004
    • 13373

    #2
    I'm assuming the agents are carrying .357 Sig pistols and that's a hot fucking round. You'd definitely want hollow points to try and mitigate over penetration. I don't see what the big deal is...

    Edit - dipshit me didn't see the explanation why hollow points are preferred.
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    • Dr. Love
      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
      • Jan 2004
      • 7833

      #3
      Why do they need hollow points? What are they trying to hide inside the points??
      I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

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      • Nickdfresh
        SUPER MODERATOR

        • Oct 2004
        • 49567

        #4
        Originally posted by Dr. Love
        Why do they need hollow points? What are they trying to hide inside the points??
        No. They just want to open up unruly elderly social security earners with a mushrooming, high velocity magnum bullet. Eat that fucking old people!

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        • ELVIS
          Banned
          • Dec 2003
          • 44120

          #5
          Citizens should buy up all the ammo they can get their hands on...

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          • Nickdfresh
            SUPER MODERATOR

            • Oct 2004
            • 49567

            #6
            Originally posted by ELVIS
            Citizens should buy up all the ammo they can get their hands on...
            That's just a conspiracy to enrich ammunition and gun makers...

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 59649

              #7
              Originally posted by ELVIS
              Citizens should buy up all the ammo they can get their hands on...
              Who would Jesus shoot?
              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • Little Texan
                Full Member Status

                • Jan 2004
                • 4579

                #8
                Judas, probably.

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                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 59649

                  #9
                  Nah, if He wanted to put a hit out on Judas it would have been easy enough to do so, and let the Romans take the rap for it, when they came to arrest Him. Especially when Peter took out his sword and sliced that dude's ear off. If JC hadn't healed the guy, it probably would have been all Hell breaking loose right then, and all you would have to do is throw Judas in front of anyone moving forward with a sharp object in their hands.
                  Eat Us And Smile

                  Cenk For America 2024!!

                  Justice Democrats


                  "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                  • Redballjets88
                    Full Member Status

                    • Mar 2005
                    • 4469

                    #10
                    I'm getting a gun this week..sometimes at midnight someone bangs on your door for ten minutes ( no one comes to my place without calling at least) and it freaks you out. Welcome my friend the judge .45/410 capability. Don't worry I'm not gunna shoot anyone who isn't actively attempting to hurt me
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                    hopefully God will ressurect you

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                    • Seshmeister
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Oct 2003
                      • 35755

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ELVIS
                      Citizens should buy up all the ammo they can get their hands on...



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                      • motherchicken
                        Registered User
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 1017

                        #12
                        Originally posted by FORD
                        Who would Jesus shoot?
                        The dude who calls him the invisible sky daddy.

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                        • VHscraps
                          Veteran
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 1874

                          #13
                          Judas had no choice - his fate was determined: 'you will betray me', etc. JC told him.

                          He had to betray JC for all the rest to unfold, so why does he keep getting a bad rap. If it wasn't for Judas's intervention (i.e., fulfilling his fatal role in the drama), then you'd have no crucifixion as we know it, no martyred Christ, and no Christianity.

                          THINK LIKE THE WAVES

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                          • ashstralia
                            ROTH ARMY ELITE
                            • Feb 2004
                            • 6566

                            #14
                            Exactly, scraps. I reckon he'd be more likely to shoot Dan brown. Or perhaps that nazi in the Vatican.

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                            • VHscraps
                              Veteran
                              • Jul 2009
                              • 1874

                              #15
                              You know, I drove past Rosslyn church last week on my way to IKEA in Edinburgh, and almost went in ... until I saw the prices for the tour.

                              Dan Brown's fault, that. Yes, I'd shoot him too.
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