BREAKING!! Romney to Release Tax Return From 2011

[jhale667]

Liberalism works as long as someone is productive to leach off of.

Nice bullshit talking point...

[FORD]

Nice bullshit talking point...

Right out of Atlas Shitted too.

[FORD]

He could have gotten one of those tax attorneys who only handle a few clients and deffered his taxes. Frankly if I was in Mitt's shoes I probably would have paid less tax than he did because I already think our military, the biggest tax mooch gets too much money.

Ok Obama, release your college records now.

No, it's not Mittens lawyer.....

Even though rich people who actually EARN their money (any person who actually makes something or provides a legitimate service and is well paid for doing so) pay less taxes than they used to, thanks to the BCE Reagan & Chimpy tax cuts, the finanical vampires like Mittens, the banksters, the speculators at Gold Mansacks, etc. who provide NOTHING, and produce NOTHING, but merely shuffle paper (or more likely, electrons these days) from one account to another pay the lowest taxes of all, because it's all capital gains as opposed to earnings.

So while Mittens lawyer probably makes a good 6 digit income himself, he's paying higher taxes than his client.

[MUSICMANN]

You seriously believe a goddamn billionaire - who didn't do a damn thing to earn any of that money, by the way - should pay LESS than 14% taxes???

OK.... discussion over.

I can't take ANYTHING you say seriously after that.

You're a fucking retard. He paid 20% in taxes and another 13% was given to charity. Way to continue with a useless left liberal talking point. So i guess Bill Gates or Steve Jobs didn't earn their money either. Or how about the person who invented the paperclip or any other business that became very successful. Some of you here are just not that bright of a light bulb.You guys need to apply for those shovel ready Obama jobs, because smart thinking is definitely not in your DNA.

[FORD]

Bill Gates and Steve Jobs actually made something that made them rich. And both of them are also on record as saying they KNOW they don't pay enough taxes.

I'm also reasonably certain that the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has given far more to ACTUAL charities than Mittens has to fund his cult's fucked up political adventures, such as funding Prop H8 in California a few years ago.

[MUSICMANN]

Bill Gates and Steve Jobs actually made something that made them rich. And both of them are also on record as saying they KNOW they don't pay enough taxes.

I'm also reasonably certain that the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation has given far more to ACTUAL charities than Mittens has to fund his cult's fucked up political adventures, such as funding Prop H8 in California a few years ago.

So if you don't actually make anything that you can touch or feel is not a real job. So, the dude that came up with facebook and made billions shouldn't be considered a successful person. As for Gates and Jobs saying they know they don't pay enough taxes, i say that nothing stops any individual in this country from pulling out their checkbook and paying whatever to the IRS. I guess they can say they don't pay enough but until the IRS actually makes them pay more, they or just Gates now will continue to push that liberal idea that rich folks don't pay enough. As for charity, i'm pretty sure Romney has paid millions more than you or me has, so who gives a fuck.

[FORD]

The guy who created Facebook made something. Yeah, it's just some computer code, and a colossal fucking waste of time, in my opinion. But still, it was a creative effort that went into it, and if somebody wanted to pay him for that shit, so be it.

That's a big difference from what a vulture capitalist like Mittens does. Or what the fucking asshole speculator criminals on Wall Street do. Or what health insurance companies do. Which is find ways to steal money from you, while producing NOTHING, and serving nobody but themselves.

[Nitro Express]

So if you don't actually make anything that you can touch or feel is not a real job. So, the dude that came up with facebook and made billions shouldn't be considered a successful person. As for Gates and Jobs saying they know they don't pay enough taxes, i say that nothing stops any individual in this country from pulling out their checkbook and paying whatever to the IRS. I guess they can say they don't pay enough but until the IRS actually makes them pay more, they or just Gates now will continue to push that liberal idea that rich folks don't pay enough. As for charity, i'm pretty sure Romney has paid millions more than you or me has, so who gives a fuck.

You have tangible goods and intangible goods. Insurance is a intangible good. Try working in an insurance office for long hours and tell me that isn't a real job. Sure it is and if your house gets burned up in a fire, you are glad you have an insurance policy.

As far as redistribution of wealth is concerned, I'm against it. If you made your money honestly you are entitled to keep it. All this fairness doctrine has been tried and ended up in failure. Russia went away from it and China is in the process of doing so. North Korea is backwards because of it.

[FORD]

You have tangible goods and intangible goods. Insurance is a intangible good. Try working in an insurance office for long hours and tell me that isn't a real job. Sure it is and if your house gets burned up in a fire, you are glad you have an insurance policy.

Yeah, but I wasn't really referring to fire insurance. The majority of people never have their house burn down, but it's always technically possible, for any number of reasons. So it's reasonable to pay a few bucks every month .

I was referring more to the greedy criminal health insurance industry. Everybody is going to be sick or injured in their life. You show me someone who hasn't been one or the other, and they're either lying, or have been damn lucky so far, and it's just a matter of time. Hell, I got my "mandatories" out of the way early on, first by breaking a leg when I was 2, and then getting my tonsils out when I was 5. Haven't been in a hospital since then, and hopefully won't need to be in one for a couple more decades.

Also fortunate that this all took place in the late 60s and early 70s, before the greedy insurance bastards started trying to use every loophole they could find to get out of paying for medical bills. Would have taken me a long time paying that bill off running a lemonade stand or whatever.

[MUSICMANN]

The guy who created Facebook made something. Yeah, it's just some computer code, and a colossal fucking waste of time, in my opinion. But still, it was a creative effort that went into it, and if somebody wanted to pay him for that shit, so be it.

That's a big difference from what a vulture capitalist like Mittens does. Or what the fucking asshole speculator criminals on Wall Street do. Or what health insurance companies do. Which is find ways to steal money from you, while producing NOTHING, and serving nobody but themselves.

Do you even have a clue what Bain Capital was/is. Romney bought failing business's and through restructuring them, made them a profitable and stronger company. If that meant, that instead of the company failing and 300 people losing their jobs and instead only 30 people had to be let go, then that's a win for that company, that after growing would add those 30 jobs or even more back. Some business's were to far gone and had to be closed down and some just needed restructuring and tweaking and probably never had one layoff involved. Back to the tax issue. Do you even pay taxes, because it doesn't sound like you ever owned your own business. I'm self employed and pay taxes quarterly. If my CPA tells me that i'm in a certain tax bracket and i need to pay a certain amount each quarter and i decide to up my tax rate by 10% and pay more, what do you think will happen. I will get a refund back for an over payment. So what did that accomplish. If people who make 250K or over started to pay 40% in taxes that would only bring in a very small amount to pay off the National Debt in that yr. So the question remains, how much is enough. 40%, 50% 80%. This is why ObamaCare has all those hidden taxes. Obama and the demo's know that the amount of taxes that rich people would be paying is just a scratch on the surface and doesn't suffice. The majority of tax payers in this country are people that make 25K to around 200k a yr., and that's who they are targeting. Just this week the amount of people who will have to pay a health insurance penalty is 6 million, 2 million more than what was expected. You add up the amount that will bring in plus the higher premiums that everyone that already has insurance and you really get to the heart of ObamaCare.

[Hardrock69]

OK so here is yet ANOTHER instance where it appears Romney and his lackeys are sabotaging his campaign on purpose. Why are they doing this? By releasing only a single year's worth of returns at this point, he continues to appear as if he has something to hide. What is he hiding? That is the question everyone is asking now....even his own fucking people......I smell mutiny in the air.....if people in his own camp were not jumping ship before....I can see it happening soon....

Damn I'm good. And I don't even have to try. I posted the above at 4:45 AM yesterday

On the 5 o'clock CBS National News yesterday afternoon, there was a segment where they were reporting how many of Mitten's own party members are saying that a) the Republican Campaign needs a turn around, and b) the way to do it (paraphrasing here) is to "get rid of some of the current campaign planners and get some new people in there".

I actually predicted they were going to turn on each other several days ago.

Now, as for Fascist Trollism:

But it's the truth, so deal with it. The same truth that the Obama cronies and the left media continue to hide and cover on all the false statements not only about Romney but Obama's failed National and Foreign policies.

Oh? Name one false statement about Romney. The Democratic party don't have to make false statements about that fucking tool. He is demonstrating beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is quite capable of destroying his own campaign without any help from Obama or anyone else. It's the truth, so deal with it.

Fast and Furious, Bush's fault.

The practice of "gunwalking", (allowing criminals to buy weapons so they could theoretically be tracked to drug cartels) DID begin in 2006. There were several different operations of that nature. F & F was just the most recent one. It was started in 2009. But the first one (Operation Wide Receiver), was begun in 2006 and was over by 2007, while Chimpy was president.

The Justice Department absolved Eric Holder, saying he had no knowledge of F & F until long after it was well underway. So according to you, Obama was supposed to know about this on some psychic level, when Holder was not even aware of it....right?

Whether Bush or Obama were aware of these operations is debatable, though of course idiots like yourself are going to blame Obama for everything that is done by any minor employees of the US government...down to theft of pencils and erasers from Agriculture Department offices in Rural Montana......

The Economy, Bush's Fault.

No. It was the fault of bankers and Wall Street brokerages and investment banks. The bundling of mortgage-backed securities, which led to the collapse of the economy, was invented by some young turks at Morgan-Stanley in the late 90s, before Bush was even president. Before Obama was even thinking of dreaming about running for president. But you know nothing about Wall Street or bankers, other than how to deposit your welfare checks in the bank every week.....

The Middle East burning and killing of our US ambassador, Bush's Fault

Uh, no, you would need to go back in time and talk to some asshole named Mohammed to pin the blame on all the crap in the Middle East. Or go back to 1949 and bitch at Moshe Dyan and others who decided to seize the land now known as Israel and create a Jewish state out of it.

As it is, there was a massive demonstration yesterday in Libya. Yes, 11 demonstrators were killed, they rioted, burned cars, etc.
But they were angry at the Islamic militia organizations who they said were responsible for the death of our ambassador. They destroyed the buildings housing the offices of those organizations, and caused the people in those militias to flee. An extreme majority of Libyans are angry at the murder of our ambassador. Now that Kadahfi the Asshole is dead, they are rebuilding their country and don't want any assholes (terrists) to fuck shit up for them.

...and that little first amendment, Freedom of Speech, that allows people in this country to make or say anything be it a youtube video or whatever.

Yes we have Freedom of Speech. How is that relevant to any of this crap? The attack in Libya had nothing to do with any videos on Youtube. It had been planned for months according to Libyan officials. But since you are not very articulate, and have trouble stringing coherent sentences together, I can understand how you would not know this.

So i guess when Iran finally builds that nuke and fires it at Israel, that will be Bush's fault too. If Iran decides to turn a missile on Poland or possibly Russia turning a missile on someone, that's Bush's fault as well.

No dumbass, it will be Iran's fault. Not Bush's, not Obama's, not Clinton's, not your Lord and Savior Ronny Ray-gun. I suppose if North Korea decides to fire a missile at someone it will be the fault of whoever our president is at that time, according to your 1st-grade reasoning.

Obama = Weak and Blame. That's not what this country needs and if you think that way you're as fucked up as Obama and his socialist wing-nuts.

"Obama = Weak and Blame". That is one of the most nonsensical parts of your incoherent mumblings you have posted here. We all know you have an IQ less than the size of your shoe, but at least try to make some kind of point. So far all there is from you is a bunch of mindless babbling that has no basis in reality.

I love how you omit Obama's failures....

I find it hilarious how you are omitting Obama's successes......

........and want to focus in on what i said about Israel, which in turn is a huge travesty that Obama and the Democrats is doing to the only Democratic country in the middle east and wanting what can only be labeled as a witch hunt to Catholic's in this country.

Actually the only real democratic country in the Middle East is Turkey. But I would not expect you to understand that. You might want to take some remedial English courses. Your grammar is only slightly superior to some of the inbred hillbillies that live in the backwoods of Kentucky......

This sums up you left Liberal wing-nuts and your backwards ass views.

You obviously know nothing of politics. It is the stated goal of the Retardlican Party to "take our country back to the 1950s".

The 1950s are long gone. 60 years gone. Only an idiot would want to try to turn back the clock and live in a fucked up era of Mcarthyism, bigotry and Cold War fear. But apparently, you are stupid enough that you somehow think such a thing would be a dream come true.

You know, this is an adult forum. We tolerate the occasional spouting off from children like yourself, but I think you should consider telling your Mommy that people at this forum are discussing grown-up subjects you do not understand.

Your Mommy might help you to understand some adult words like "go fuck yourself" or "go jack off over your Uncle Ronnie Ray-gun photo collection".

Perhaps in 10 or 15 years when you graduate high school...at age 25....you can come back here and be able to contribute something of value.....

But somehow I doubt it....

[Hardrock69]

Do you even have a clue what Bain Capital was/is. Romney bought failing business's and through restructuring them, made them a profitable and stronger company. If that meant, that instead of the company failing and 300 people losing their jobs and instead only 30 people had to be let go, then that's a win for that company, that after growing would add those 30 jobs or even more back. Some business's were to far gone and had to be closed down and some just needed restructuring and tweaking and probably never had one layoff involved.

So offshoring jobs to prison kamps in China is somehow seen as a noble thing by you?

Figures. That is what has helped to bring this country to ruin. And the Republicans go on and on about how 'patriotic' they are, while they thwart any attempts to regulate the banking industry, while they thwart attempts to stop giving tax breaks to companies like Bain Capital who send jobs overseas.....among other things.

Destroying our country in the name of "patriotism" seems pretty UN-patriotic if you ask me.

But then, aside from that, the Republican Party will say anything in order to get the black man out of the White House.

Whatever.

[Nickdfresh]

You're a fucking retard. He paid 20% in taxes and another 13% was given to charity. Way to continue with a useless left liberal talking point. So i guess Bill Gates or Steve Jobs didn't earn their money either. Or how about the person who invented the paperclip or any other business that became very successful. Some of you here are just not that bright of a light bulb.You guys need to apply for those shovel ready Obama jobs, because smart thinking is definitely not in your DNA.

Fuck off, he paid 14+/-% and gave $4M to charity in an election year. Whoopty fucking doo! I bet he gave shit to charity like the majority of wealthy-inherits do in many previous tax returns...

[ZahZoo]

It's more about the offshore accounts, and the dishonesty - speaks to their lack of integrity and dollar-worship. Now Ryan stuck his foot in it too...

My take is this whole issue is more about campaign bullshit than anything else. Somewhere in the bowels of the Democratic strategy machine a brainfart emerged to paint Romney as some evil, dishonest tax dodging rich crook... Some of what's been bandied about may sound unscrupulous... but there's little in the way of facts on the table. So you sow the seeds of doubt. That's negative campaign strategy at it's finest.

Sure, there's the fantasy dream of finding the next leader of the US that is honest, squeaky clean morally, patriotically centered and a 100% law abiding good guy... Nice target but one that's never been hit any closer than the far outer rings... Never a bulls-eye, ever.

From my perspective... this issue does little to establish a measure of character among any political candidate. It's a touchy subject among most of the electorate mainly because most are paying more in taxes than the rich guys running for federal offices. Nobody likes paying taxes... nobody.

The tax laws in the US have far too many loopholes and grey areas that it takes a pretty smart person to minimize their tax burden as income goes above upper-middle class. You only get into that area by having money and you maximize it by shifting to investment income because the system is favored there. Very few "rich" people exist that got there earning income in a traditional way... working at a paying job. When they do make enough the smart move is to shift that income into investments that out perform your salary income. This is how wealth works more or less.

Since we don't have any working stiffs in Washington running for President... nor the Senate or Congress... but the whole field is populated by wealthy people who are smart enough to manage their income and minimize their tax burden... what fucking good does it do to hold one rich guy's tax approach over another? They all play the system to the maximum benefit and there's more than one good or bad or otherwise approach...

Actually I'd value the more successful guys from a leadership perspective because they had to have very good business instincts and leadership strength to achieve success in this area.

[jhale667]