Toss-Up States

[Hardrock69]

1. Romney tried the lie that the White House did not call Libya an act of terrorism for two weeks during the second debate, and got shot down in flames immediately. Brian is so behind the times it is ridiculous.

2. CNN had a segment just yesterday where they basically said Romney cannot win the electoral college.

Mittens needs to give up.

[BigBadBrian]

1. Romney tried the lie that the White House did not call Libya an act of terrorism for two weeks during the second debate, and got shot down in flames immediately. Brian is so behind the times it is ridiculous.

Read the timelines, read what was said. Quit having the media like CNN give you your talking points. Try to think on your own for once.

2. CNN had a segment just yesterday where they basically said Romney cannot win the electoral college. Mittens needs to give up.

Yeah, CNN is the authority on elections.

[BigBadBrian]

[BigBadBrian]

Latest RCP polls:

Colorado - Tie
Florida - Romney +1
Iowa - Tie
Michigan - Tie
Nevada - Obama +3
New Hampshire - Romney +2
Ohio - Obama +4 (averaged)
Pennsylvania - Obama +5
Virginia - Romney +2
Wisconsin - Obama +2

That gives Obama 54 and Romney 45 (assuming it's accurate at all)

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...lls/president/

RCP Average of all major polls:

[Seshmeister]

Flag lapel pins are completely lame.

[Kristy]

i think colorado's the one question mark there. either way, obama wins enough.

If Colorado falls to Obama it will be due to Rommel's and Eddie Munster's laziness to reach those in the eastern plains where most of the Retugs in this state live. Rommel won't dare visit Boulder, Greeley, Durango, or any other college town much less the most liberal bint of Denvoid - although he was at Red Rocks last week with Kid Rock. Rommel's been playing it safe here only going to known Rethug towns where no one dares questions him and the vampire boy.

[binnie]

My ignorance of US politics has just punched me in the face - I figured Virginnia and Florida would be safe Republican states.

Not so?

[Nitro Express]

If Colorado falls to Obama it will be due to Rommel's and Eddie Munster's laziness to reach those in the eastern plains where most of the Retugs in this state live. Rommel won't dare visit Boulder, Greeley, Durango, or any other college town much less the most liberal bint of Denvoid - although he was at Red Rocks last week with Kid Rock. Rommel's been playing it safe here only going to known Rethug towns where no one dares questions him and the vampire boy.

They are announcing on our local radio stations if you want to go to Colorado and knock doors for Romney the buses leave at such and such time. Everything is paid for. The bus, the lodging, the food. You just show up and they take you to Colorado and you become a Romney missionary for a few days. A lot goes on that you aren't going to see reported on the local media. Believe me, Romney is working on Colorado.

I remember when I was taking some classes at Syracuse University and I lived in a neighborhood that was between the university and some welfare projects. I played basketball with some of the kids from the projects and knew some of them. One day they had these big eagle charter buses lined up in the projects and I asked what was going on. One guy said it's election day. He said the community organizers bus us to the polls, they provide food, and drinks. He said they even get women for us. That was my first lesson on community organizing.

Hmm. If Romney is buying hot whores I might sign up. LOL!

Also, 99.9% of the people in the projects were black. None of them I knew were native to New York state. They all were from the south. Alabama mostly. They would complain about the weather and I would ask them why they didn't go back to Alabama and they said the welfare benefits were better in New York. So I pieced it together. The state and local politicians were enticing out of state people to come up and live on the dole for the exchange of a vote. This was 1985. You could tell at one time Syracuse was a grand city but it was in total decline. Carrier was leaving, Bristol Meyers was leaving, Fischer auto body folded up. I knew some managers at both Carrier and Bristol Meyers and they said the state taxes had become so high, they were relocating to Tennessee. Why were the taxes high? To pay for all the welfare. This was before China has really modernized to the point of being a big outsourcing point. NAFTA had not happened so Mexico was not a outsource area yet.

Hindsight being 20/20 you just see they are taking what killed the state of New York and they are trying to make the whole country that way. Then you look at the UN's Agenda 21 and you see they really don't care about having any industry here. They want most of the US to go back to nature with a few big cities. Then you have the same nutjobbers wanting to take over the whole middle east, rob the resources and then take on China and Russia or get them to fight each other or whatever. It's take over the world shit and turn the US into a big nature preserve with some ghetto cities full of working slaves. It's Rockefeller shit and their chums in Europe shit and they sell it all with the excuse of keeping us safe, saving the planet, and helping third world countries when in reality, it's a big, spiked strap-on ready to rip your ass apart. Bend over Joe Public, we have what's good for you. These people should be turned into compost. That would help nature more than anything.

[FORD]

They are announcing on our local radio stations if you want to go to Colorado and knock doors for Romney the buses leave at such and such time. Everything is paid for. The bus, the lodging, the food. You just show up and they take you to Colorado and you become a Romney missionary for a few days. A lot goes on that you aren't going to see reported on the local media. Believe me, Romney is working on Colorado.

So who owns those radio stations? I'm guessing it's either Clear Channel (founded by the BCE and now owned by Bain Capital) or Bonneville Broadcasting, (owned by Elohim our Heavenly Father and His Holy Quorum of 12 in Salt Lake City).

In either case, it should be entirely fucking illegal to campaign in a state where you can't vote. But of course the Mormons are infamous for that (See Prop H8 in California)

[Nitro Express]

I'm sorry Nick: you're going to have to read other news sources other than the Huffington Post.

I'm on the mailing list of Move On and I'm a registered Republican so I get all the right wing stuff. I don't know why but I got this big glossy 8x10 photo of Sarah Palin hand autographed thanking me for my donation and I never gave the McCain camp any money. I voted for Raph Nader. But I love to read what both the right and left send out and man do the stats differ. The polls differ widely. It's all bullshit. I don't even call them political parties anymore. They are political religions and I've become an athiest. I might write in the Spaghetti Monster for president and I'm fucking serious on that.

[Nitro Express]

So who owns those radio stations? I'm guessing it's either Clear Channel (founded by the BCE and now owned by Bain Capital) or Bonneville Broadcasting, (owned by Elohim our Heavenly Father and His Holy Quorum of 12 in Salt Lake City).

In either case, it should be entirely fucking illegal to campaign in a state where you can't vote. But of course the Mormons are infamous for that (See Prop H8 in California)

Probably Bonneville. It's KID out of Idaho Falls and all the radio personalities are obviously Mormon. I mean Glenn Beck comes to the Huntsman ranch to fish every summer and he goes on the local radio. Mitt was on. You get the Romney cheer leading in the Mormon then Rush Limbaugh comes on then Sean Hannity. Coast to Coast AM at night. It's all right wing around here except for Teton county which is where I live and it's the only Democratic county in Wyoming. That's due to all the Californians that own a residence here and keep Wyoming their primary residence to dodge California taxes. They make the residence in Cali their vacation home. People will live here in the summer, go to So-Cal in the winter and come up to ski and go back. So all these California tax dodgers are Democrats which is funny. Wyoming has no state income tax because we tax our oil exports.

[Nitro Express]

Jackson Hole is not really Mormon but Star Valley is and everything over the mountains in Idaho is. Jackson Hole is old east coast money and California money. The big Mormon money is on the other side of the Teton range on the Idaho side. There you will find the Huntsmans and even Carl Malone of Utah Jazz fame. Carl is not Mormon but his wife is. It's fashionable in the Utah jet set to have a ranch in Idaho with a view of the tetons. So it's HUGE Romney territory over there. Over here you see more Obama/Biden signs. The Dems seem to put their signs out more.

[Nitro Express]

I got a summer job at KIRO in Seattle because I had connections at Bonneville. They just made a job for me. I probably made more money off of church connections than I ever gave the church in donations. The church isn't dumb. They have it figured out. You have to pretty much pay enough money to the church to where it looks like you are paying them the 10% tithing to get a temple recommend. You get a card that's good for a year that allows you to get into the temple. The temple is just a bunch of hocus pocus busy work but it's having the recommend that's the key. Without it you will never get a high church calling. You will be a nobody. If you play the game; espeicially, if you live in a rich Mormon area you can make a lot of money. The church knows this but you have to buy the priveledge to network with buying your card. It's not a church, it's a country club. It's not for everyone but people who like to be leaders and like attention love it. My dad did and he made a lot of money on church construction.

They don't building all these buildings and temples because they are needed. The church wants to own some land in a high value area and then everyone makes money off the construction project. It's much like the government actually. It can be Mohamad, Jesus, or the spaghetti monster or whatever. It's the system that's the key. Make up any story or dogma you want and if you are good enough at selling it and then retaining the offspring of the members, you have a long-term money generating business that is tax free. They key is you have to be a good salesman. Obama could have been one hell of a minster. LOL! Joe Biden would be good at it too.

[Nickdfresh]

My ignorance of US politics has just punched me in the face - I figured Virginnia and Florida would be safe Republican states.

Not so?

At one point you would have been right, but Northern Virgina is now essentially a transient state supporting the U.S. Federal gov't with a lot of Northeastern liberals in the mix now. Florida is a state of retirees, many of them in the 47%...

[FORD]

Romney's only shot at taking the vote legitimately in Florida is if Sheldon Adelson and the PNAC propagandists convince all the elderly Jews to buy into the NuttyYahoo propaganda about Iran.

Not that it really matters, because the legitimate vote is irrelevant in Florida, as we all know from 2000. And the last election where Allen Wackjob West was "elected" but Alan Grayson wasn't???