The Hurricane Insurance, WMD Fight Thread!

[baru911]

....who the fuck is "President Ego?" What fucking president DOESN'T have an ego?

But I doubt that really offends you much. But your posts come off in the redundant category of pissing and moaning about what Obama has failed to achieve, but then you piss and moan when he does achieve something, like Obamacare. But considering he's up against a Congressional Leadership that essentially pledged to get nothing done in order to insure his defeat, all while getting paid large government salaries in the big government they supposedly hate, you might actually offer up some criticism of them as well?

President Ego would be Obama. Look back Nick and you'll find I've been calling him that for a while and you've yet to ask that before.

On the Congressional leadership thing.........Didn't he also sign the Bush Tax Cuts into law again? He could have use the power of the VETO. You know fight a bit and back up that HUGE Ego with some substance. Maybe those tax cuts should be called the Obama Era cuts as he owns them now. Christ, Bill Maher shit on him for signing them back into law. President Ego is Bush Lite.

Nick, nice straw man stuff there on Obamacare. Do a search and you’ll find I’ve never hammered Obamacare in here - I do not remember discussing it in here. But I’ll hammer it in a way that your puny mind might be able to understand.

A democratically controlled Senate, House, and a Democratic President passed a bill that only helps BIG CORPORATIONS, i.e., the health care insurance companies. They wrote it and will benefit from it via big dollars in the short term via an increase in the amount of people that have to carry insurance and will buy those policies from them. More money, more money for big business!!! Way to go party for the poor and the middle class......ROFLMAO.

Now, for the part of this your puny mind more than likely won’t understand but maybe you can keep up, as there isn’t a wikipedia page for this:

In the long run the insurance companies will benefit financial, as they will be able to exit and stop providing insurance to cover our society that is getting older and older. End of life care is where the largest bills start to roll in. As the cost of providing payments on those policies increase they will dump the part of their business that provides health care onto the US Government. The biggest backstop on the planet will get to once again get to do its job. You call that "The Single Payer Option" and you'll end up getting it. Those same companies will continue to offer fire, auto, home,,,etc insurance. From a business standpoint it is an excellent business model. Those companies get to keep the majority of the premiums paid in, invest them, gain capital gains off them, and NEVER pay out on them. Pretty smooth and all LEGAL! Why else would a company name United Health Care start to offer auto insurance if your plan isn't to exit the market you currently cover and move on to other areas of the insurance market?

If you still don’t believe insurance companies act the way I have described then maybe you can let me know who supplies hurricane insurance on newly purchased property in FL. (I know you're a LIBERAL and haven't worked hard enough to afford a vacation house on the beach. On the other hand, I speak from personal experience and have a second home on the beach in FL due to the hard work I've put into life). However, when you research it you'll find out that insurance companies don't offer that any longer. You can only buy the State of FL’s hurricane insurance on newly purchased property, which leaves the taxpayer on the hook for damages when storms come in.

From a business standpoint the above is an excellent business model and the insurance companies have won big time. I wish I'd come up with it. The best part is that you DEM's made it LEGAL to do!! As usual the taxpayers will get to flip the bill and got screwed for your plan. Way to go!

[Nickdfresh]

President Ego would be Obama. Look back Nick and you'll find I've been calling him that for a while and you've yet to ask that before.

I figured it out, thanks. It just seems remarkably stupid, as pointed out by several others here. You might as well call him "President who wants to be President!". It just seems pretty obvious...

On the Congressional leadership thing.........Didn't he also sign the Bush Tax Cuts into law again? He could have use the power of the VETO. You know fight a bit and back up that HUGE Ego with some substance. Maybe those tax cuts should be called the Obama Era cuts as he owns them now. Christ, Bill Maher shit on him for signing them back into law. President Ego is Bush Lite.

He signed them into law (I think) mainly to avoid the Republcunts in Congress from preventing middle and upper middle class households from getting tax cuts under a new plan where the wealthy would have had to pay more. So, thanks for making my point about what a dumb, worthless shill you are. Yes, he gave into a hostage crisis where the Republicans held the middle class hostage!

Nick, nice straw man stuff there on Obamacare. Do a search and you’ll find I’ve never hammered Obamacare in here - I do not remember discussing it in here. But I’ll hammer it in a way that your puny mind might be able to understand.

It was just an example, actually. But go on, "hammer" it you badass!...

A democratically controlled Senate, House, and a Democratic President passed a bill that only helps BIG CORPORATIONS, i.e., the health care insurance companies. They wrote it and will benefit from it via big dollars in the short term via an increase in the amount of people that have to carry insurance and will buy those policies from them. More money, more money for big business!!! Way to go party for the poor and the middle class......ROFLMAO.

ROFLMAO indeed! That's what you got?! It helps big insurance? Really? Because the funny thing is that the big insurance stocks have been "hammered" the last two days on Wall Street because of the fact that Obama won. He's so good for big insurance that no one wants their stock? Really?

Yes, people have to buy policies from them. But, at the same time people with existing conditions can no longer be denied healthcare nor dropped from it and there are numerous provisions in the law that prevent healthcare being just all about profit anymore. Secondly, 'Obamacare' is a work in progress. I do believe that there should have been a public option for people in poverty, but it was your Retardicons that nixed that. But eventually, some sort of expanded Medicaid like program will become inevitable...

Now, for the part of this your puny mind more than likely won’t understand but maybe you can keep up, as there isn’t a wikipedia page for this:

My "puny mind?"

Why are you talking like you're a professional wrestler or that guy from The Road Warrior?

In the long run the insurance companies will benefit financial, as they will be able to exit and stop providing insurance to cover our society that is getting older and older. End of life care is where the largest bills start to roll in. As the cost of providing payments on those policies increase they will dump the part of their business that provides health care onto the US Government. The biggest backstop on the planet will get to once again get to do its job. You call that "The Single Payer Option" and you'll end up getting it. Those same companies will continue to offer fire, auto, home,,,etc insurance. From a business standpoint it is an excellent business model. Why else would a company name United Health Care start to offer auto insurance if your plan isn't to exit the market you currently cover and move on to other areas of the insurance market?

In the "long run the insurance companies will benefit financial?" Well, I hope so. I have no problem with insurance companies ethically making money, and that's one of the genius parts of the plan, it can be a win-win for everyone! Fuckin' AYE!

Um, your examples are shit actually, because Canada has a far more socialized version of health insurance than we do, and they're fine and profitable...

If you still don’t believe insurance companies act the way I have described then maybe you can let me know who supplies hurricane insurance on newly purchased property in FL.

I have family that own two properties in Florida, congratulations on your purchase in that place. You can keep it...

(I know you're a LIBERAL and haven't worked hard enough to afford a vacation house on the beach.

You ;liberals like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet? Nice one, ignorant asshole, but go on...

On the other hand, I speak from personal experience and have a second home on the beach in FL due to the hard work I've put into life). However, when you research it you'll find out that insurance companies don't offer that any longer. You can only buy the State of FL’s hurricane insurance on newly purchased property, which leaves the taxpayer on the hook for damages when storms come in and cause huge amounts of damage.

Great. You're all cocky because you bought a foreclosed property that probably needs quite a bit of work, fantastic! Have fun with the next hurricane! Of course insurance companies will try to cut losses, but they can be forced to offer coverages or suffer penalties in other areas. But in any case, on the one hand you're telling me that Obamacare is great for insurance, then that ins. companies can just get out of healthcare. They won't. Because it's all big money, it's now about controlling costs, but it's still big money...

From a business standpoint it is an excellent business model and the insurance companies have won big time. I wish I'd come up with it. The best part is that you DEM's made it LEGAL to do!! As usual the taxpayers will get to flip the bill and got screwed for your plan. Way to go!

The again explain to me why their stocks are plummeting (aside from the Euro Debt Crisis)...

[baru911]

The Hurricane Insurance, WMD Fight Thread!

ROFLMAO indeed! That's what you got?! It helps big insurance? Really? Because the funny thing is that the big insurance stocks have been "hammered" the last two days on Wall Street because of the fact that Obama won. He's so good for big insurance that no one wants their stock? Really?

Really? You mean that the GENERAL PUBLIC is trading stocks like the uninformed mob they tend to be? People like you with your vast knowledge of the market are panicking. Big fuckin' deal. Talk to me in 1 year, 5 years, and 10 years where those same stock's prices are and how well they are doing. Its called a trend. Of course you wouldn't understand as you don't own securities. The US Government will take care of you in your old age.

You ;liberals like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet? Nice one, ignorant asshole, but go on...

Wow, you have that type of capital? When did you get rich? Dude, you make minimum wage and you know it.

Great. You're all cocky because you bought a foreclosed property that probably needs quite a bit of work, fantastic!

Once again your assumptions are off. Hey dumbass, the insurance companies stopped offering hurricane insurance in FL more than 10 years ago. How would I know that unless I bought my home before the meltdown.

When you got foreclosed on did it hurt? I ask as you've apparently placed a personal experience on my ability to purchase a second home. Do you like living in an apartment not building equity? Wait a minute, I shouldn't have asked as you don't need to build equity. The US Government will take care of your every need as you get older and in retirement. You're a cheese eater - I forgot.

The again explain to me why their stocks are plummeting (aside from the Euro Debt Crisis)...

Panic maybe, not understanding the market maybe, or how about.............Capital gains taxes will increase next year. You bail now and take the lower tax hit this year vs next year. Kind of like George Lucas did on his sale of Lucas Films. Its called financial planning. Again, one of those things that a true cheese eater like yourself wouldn't understand. BTW, did it hurt when Liberal George did what he did to make (Oh no, I'm gonna type this) more money for himself instead of allowing his windfall to be taxed at a higher rate next year thus allowing the US Government to divide up his cheese? You must have sold your Star Wars collection in protest. Bitch ain't it. Imagine, he wanted to keep more money for himself instead of pissing it away via the US Government getting its hands on it. What a strange and foreign idea that must be to you.

[baru911]

So lying about the reason to go to war........lying to Congress and the American people, using the war to make profits for key members of your Administration is legal.

Gotcha, we should give him a medal or something

Dude, go into the WIKILEAKS documents and look around note I did not type WIKIPEDIA. You'll be surprised to find out that WMD existed in Iraq during the war. Those papers/documents confirm they existed. Also, if they didn't exist then how did the US Military have to deal with a Sarin gas IED? Here, your liberal MSNBC reported on it: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4997808/...explodes-iraq/

The whole no WMD storyline in Iraq is such bullshit. The press bent the story the way they wanted it to go.

[Nickdfresh]

Really? You mean that the GENERAL PUBLIC is trading stocks like the uninformed mob they tend to be? People like you with your vast knowledge of the market are panicking. Big fuckin' deal. Talk to me in 1 year, 5 years, and 10 years where those same stock's prices are and how well they are doing. Its called a trend. Of course you wouldn't understand as you don't own securities. The US Government will take care of you in your old age.

LOL The trend would be that Wall Street doesn't like Obama as much, although I agree they are irrational. The trend is that the healthcare law is just a starting point.

Why don't you have your wife take care of my balls?

Wow, you have that type of capital? When did you get rich? Dude, you make minimum wage and you know it.

LOL Fuckstick, I wish the IRS thought that!

Once again your assumptions are off. Hey dumbass, the insurance companies stopped offering hurricane insurance in FL more than 10 years ago. How would I know that unless I bought my home before the meltdown.

So you don't have a homowners policy and flood insurance? Because that's pretty much what "hurricane insurance" would be...

When you got foreclosed on did it hurt?

No. But when I got my foreskin snipped I'm pretty sure it did...

I ask as you've apparently placed a personal experience on my ability to purchase a second home.

Nope. I never really gave a fuck about your ability or inability to purchase a second home. What's pretty funny is that you don't seem to know the first fucking thing about insuring it for some reason. Fail.

Do you like living in an apartment not building equity? Wait a minute, I shouldn't have asked as you don't need to build equity. The US Government will take care of your every need as you get older and in retirement. You're a cheese eater - I forgot.

I do like living in an apartment, so can get the fuck off down the road when I want and don't have to do yard work, or worry about doing a five minute Google search to figure out how to insure my other home. I suggest you try it because you seem rather incompetent. I love cheese, and I'm pretty sure that faggots like you are the biggest ones banging on the Medicare door when they get older...

Panic maybe, not understanding the market maybe, or how about.............Capital gains taxes will increase next year.

You apparently don't know how to insure your second third and fourth house, but you're going to lecture me about markets? Okay...

You bail now and take the lower tax hit this year vs next year. Kind of like George Lucas did on his sale of Lucas Films. Its called financial planning. Again, one of those things that a true cheese eater like yourself wouldn't understand. BTW, did it hurt when Liberal George did what he did to make (Oh no, I'm gonna type this) more money for himself instead of allowing his windfall to be taxed at a higher rate next year thus allowing the US Government to divide up his cheese? You must have sold your Star Wars collection in protest. Bitch ain't it. Imagine, he wanted to keep more money for himself instead of pissing it away via the US Government getting its hands on it. What a strange and foreign idea that must be to you.

Um, Lucas like donated $4 billion to charity, you really think he gave much of a fuck about saving on taxes? He's paying a shitload of that Disney loot to the gov't anyways.

God you sound like a complete insufferable asshole and I bet your wife blows the pool boy, oh wait, you don't have a pool...

[Nickdfresh]

Dude, go into the WIKILEAKS documents and look around note I did not type WIKIPEDIA. You'll be surprised to find out that WMD existed in Iraq during the war. Those papers/documents confirm they existed. Also, if they didn't exist then how did the US Military have to deal with a Sarin gas IED? Here, your liberal MSNBC reported on it: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4997808/...explodes-iraq/

The whole no WMD storyline in Iraq is such bullshit. The press bent the story the way they wanted it to go.

Um, retard, those talking points were debunked long ago. The Iraqis had old stocks buried they had forgotten about. So fucking what? A couple of jerkoff Republcans made themselves look like fools trying to defend a bloody and awful invasion premise...

[baru911]

So you don't have a homowners policy and flood insurance? Because that's pretty much what "hurricane insurance" would be...

Wait, you type the above then later type the following and really show your ass here. I guess there wasn’t a WIKIPEDIA page for you to rip-off in an attempt to come across in any way, shape, or form of knowing what your talking about.

What's pretty funny is that you don't seem to know the first fucking thing about insuring it for some reason. Fail.

Homeowners insurance would not cover you as all homeowner’s coverage includes a clause with several paragraphs stating that the policy excludes acts of God, and/or hurricanes in FL. A Hurricane is an act of God so it is a bit redundant but my point is made. They wouldn’t pay for damage caused during the storm.

Also, flood insurance might cover you for storm surge but the damage caused by winds, (which is most of your damage in a hurricane) wouldn’t be paid. Small things like your roof being blown off and then rest of your house being destroyed by the winds and rain wouldn't be covered.

Truly Nick, when you can't rip-off wikipedia you really show your ignorance on subjects. You need to sit down; shut-up and let the adults talk.

[ELVIS]

I guess there wasn’t a WIKIPEDIA page for you to rip-off in an attempt to come across in any way, shape, or form of knowing what your talking about.

[Satan]

Far be it from me to speak in defense of God, but how does He get the blame for hurricanes caused by man made global climate change?

[Nitro Express]

The insurance policy I have on some commercial buildings says I'm out of luck if they are destroyed or damaged by terrorists or an act of war. One bit of advice I do have is make sure you have your home owners policy in a safe place where it won't burn up with the house. If you can't prove you have a policy the insurance company will deny you ever had one with them. This happened to a friend of mine when his house burned down.

I've bought enough insurance over the years that I just found the easiest way to insure multiple things is just find a good insurance agency. I found the convenience is worth all the time you spend trying to find good deals and it's nice to deal with one agency if you have problems or questions. It really isn't that much more expensive if at all.

[Satan]

The insurance policy I have on some commercial buildings says I'm out of luck if they are destroyed or damaged by terrorists or an act of war. One bit of advice I do have is make sure you have your home owners policy in a safe place where it won't burn up with the house. If you can't prove you have a policy the insurance company will deny you ever had one with them. This happened to a friend of mine when his house burned down.

I've bought enough insurance over the years that I just found the easiest way to insure multiple things is just find a good insurance agency. I found the convenience is worth all the time you spend trying to find good deals and it's nice to deal with one agency if you have problems or questions. It really isn't that much more expensive if at all.

In your case, it doesn't matter. When Yellowstone blows up, there won't be anything left for the insurance company inspectors to look at.

[Nitro Express]

In your case, it doesn't matter. When Yellowstone blows up, there won't be anything left for the insurance company inspectors to look at.

That is true. But if Yellowstone blows up, expect not to see the sun for a very long time. You better hope you have a lot of food stored up.

[Satan]

I'm in Hell. I haven't seen the sun in years!

[Nitro Express]

LOL! Shit. You probably live in that big lava field under Yellowstone.

[kwame k]

Dude, go into the WIKILEAKS documents and look around note I did not type WIKIPEDIA. You'll be surprised to find out that WMD existed in Iraq during the war. Those papers/documents confirm they existed. Also, if they didn't exist then how did the US Military have to deal with a Sarin gas IED? Here, your liberal MSNBC reported on it: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4997808/...explodes-iraq/

The whole no WMD storyline in Iraq is such bullshit. The press bent the story the way they wanted it to go.

Bullshit.....if the Administration had a smoking gun they'd of cried that from the highest mountain and you know it.........it's an accepted fact, even among Right Wingers like you, that the pretext to war was a blatant lie.

Deal with it.......and to think that the media covered it up is an idiotic excuse, period......Jesus, you're starting to sound like ELVIS with that moronic conspiracy shit!

Alex Jones much, dude?