Fix the filibuster NOW!

[FORD]

If you look at this election overall, it was a great victory for "liberals"/"progressives"/those of us who live in reality and not in the Book of Mormon or Atlas Shrugged..

Legalizing weed....marriage equality....electing a lesbian senator in Wisconsin...getting rid of Joe Lieberdouche and Ben Nelson in the Senate and replacing them with Elizabeth Warren and Angus King - another independent of the Bernie Sanders variety. Alan Grayson is back in the House and teabagger war criminal Allen West is not. And the pro-rape wackjobs Akin, Mourdock, and Deadbeat Dad Walsh - GONE.

No we didn't get Rocky or Jill for President. And the House was so fucking gerrymandered that it was still out of reach. But at least some of the very worst are gone.

We, the people WON this election. And as the Repukes were so fucking fond of saying after elections they didn't even actually win (2000/2004) ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES.

It is time to reverse this 32 year toilet spiral of Jude Wanniski "Two Santa Clauses" trickle down supply side horseshit. The so called "job creators" actually created more jobs when they had to either invest money in their businesses or PAY TAXES on it. And that should be their only options again. Not outsourcing, cutting corners, going cheap.

[Nitro Express]

Nothing is going to change because nobody is going to do a thing about the real economic problems. It will just be more taxes, more fees, less personal freedom and a dollar that buys less. Neither the Republicans or Democrats understand sound economic policy. What about all the constitutional freedoms we lost? The door is open for the government to start arresting, detaining, and killing anyone they don't like. The Patriot Act. The National Defense Authorization Act.

I don't see another four years of Obama doing a thing about these problems and they are serious problems.

It's historically rare that a country this big can get itself in this big of a quagmire and pull out of it. The only way to turn it is massive spending cuts. Everyone is going to have to take the pain and anyone who sells that can't get elected. So the politicians will continue to buy votes and the Federal Reserve will continue to debase the currency to avoid having to pay the debt the politicians run up.

Until massive spending cuts happen and we get on a sane currency program, the US will continue to die a slow death.

[Nitro Express]

You can't have the national debt be bigger than the gross national product of the country and have a working economy. The big problem is the monetary system has gotten too far from reality and that monetary system took over the US Federal Government a long time ago.

[Va Beach VH Fan]

I don't see another four years of Obama doing a thing about these problems and they are serious problems.

He CAN'T do it by himself, our government is set up so that he CAN'T do it by himself....

So when you say statements like that, you MUST say that neither Obama NOR Congress will do a thing about it.....

Which I still disagree with, because it's not the Democrats who are filibustering everything Obama does.....

[ELVIS]

But Va, nobody on either side but Ron Paul in Congress has put forth one bit of real effort or proposal to do anything whatsoever about the real fiscal problem that is here now...

It's here NOW!

You and others (not saying you do) may say it's not here now, but it is...

People don't feel it...yet...

[FORD]

It actually is too bad that neither Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich will be in the House next year. But that's a seperate issue from the filibuster horseshit.

BTW Senator Bernie Sanders has been pretty much on the same page with Paul and Kucinich when it comes to the "Federal" Reserve. I'm not sure where the new independent Senator Angus King is on that.

Elizabeth Warren is no friend of the banksters though, that much is certain.

[ELVIS]

BTW Senator Bernie Sanders has been pretty much on the same page with Paul and Kucinich when it comes to the "Federal" Reserve.

yeah, there are people like Sanders who are on board but it's mostly rhetoric...

Most if not all of these people are too afraid to put their cushy political careers on the line for a cause...

[Va Beach VH Fan]

But Va, nobody on either side but Ron Paul in Congress has put forth one bit of real effort or proposal to do anything whatsoever about the real fiscal problem that is here now...

It's here NOW!

You and others (not saying you do) may say it's not here now, but it is...

People don't feel it...yet...

What do you call the American Jobs Act ??

[ELVIS]

A good idea...

I'm not an Obama hater...

[LoungeMachine]

Sorry, but Congress is not Obama's rubber stamp. All 3 entities, the POTUS, Senate, and House, are going to have to learn to work together and COMPROMISE.

How is The Filibuster Rule fostering COMPROMISE?



Why should anyone have to compromise, if they know they can simply stop things dead in their tracks without lifting a finger?

[knuckleboner]

Sorry, but Congress is not Obama's rubber stamp. All 3 entities, the POTUS, Senate, and House, are going to have to learn to work together and COMPROMISE.

so you're ok with some level of increased revenue?

[Nitro Express]

We have a very divided country and the currency is going to pot. That's the big picture. People wasted all their energy on following an election that didn't change a thing. A bunch of partisan bickering and maneuvering over nothing. There will just be more arguing and finger pointing as energy and food become more expensive. The big wakeup will be when the food stamps are no good. That won't be pretty.

[Dr. Love]

I don't think any 1 group of people should have to pay shoulder more of the burden. As much as I'd like to reduce spending to the point we don't need a federal income tax, it aint' going to happen.

They need to reduce spending and increase taxes -- on everyone -- until the debt is repaid. We're all in this together.

[BigBadBrian]

They need to reduce spending and increase taxes -- on everyone -- until the debt is repaid. We're all in this together.

Agreed. Even a family of 4 making 20K can chip in $100 a year in taxes.

If you get a full refund from the IRS, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!!!

[BigBadBrian]

so you're ok with some level of increased revenue?

Depends on how you raise that revenue. Broadening the tax base would be the most effective way.