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  • BigBadBrian
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    • Jan 2004
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    #16
    Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
    somebody who will win again...
    Probably not. It's extremely hard for a party to win 3 times in a row.
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    • Seshmeister
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      • Oct 2003
      • 35750

      #17
      Less hard when they are running against the christian taliban...

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      • DavidLeeNatra
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        • Jan 2004
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        #18
        Originally posted by BigBadBrian
        Probably not. It's extremely hard for a party to win 3 times in a row.
        the problem with the republicans is that they believe they own the parking lot in front of the west wing. but you have to earn it. romney stumbled over his own arrogance. your country has changed but some of YOU still think it's 1776...
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        • Seshmeister
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          • Oct 2003
          • 35750

          #19
          Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
          It's Hillary's Presidency unless she refuses to run.....
          Last time she ran some of her first campaign ads were about banning video games because they were too violent.

          Is that the kind of nonsense people want? In the 1960s she would have been one of those busybody women trying to ban the Beatles...

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          • Va Beach VH Fan
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            • Dec 2003
            • 17913

            #20
            Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
            the problem with the republicans is that they believe they own the parking lot in front of the west wing. but you have to earn it. romney stumbled over his own arrogance. your country has changed but some of YOU still think it's 1776...
            Frankly, the Republicans could have easily won the last two elections if they didn't shoot themselves in the foot....

            If McCain would have chosen someone, ANYONE, other than fuckin' Palin, it's very plausible that they win....

            And this time, honestly, they could have ran McCain again and he would have done better than Romney....
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            • DLR Bridge
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              #21
              Cuomo. I'm calling it.

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              • FORD
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                • Jan 2004
                • 59560

                #22
                Originally posted by DLR Bridge
                Cuomo. I'm calling it.
                Let's hope not... he's just the NY version of Evan Bayh. The son of a famous Democrat who turned into a useless DINO.
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                • sadaist
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                  • Jul 2004
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                  #23
                  Originally posted by Terry
                  Out of that list, Hillary is the only plausible nominee...

                  I agree. But Hillary is tired. She is seriously ready for fundraisers, speaking at colleges, speaking at corporate events for a giant paycheck, sleeping in and going to wine parties every evening. She deserves it. Like her or not she has dedicated her entire life thus far to public work and she has earned a retirement.

                  But maybe the next couple years off she will recharge? Perhaps. But I think in her mind right now she is honestly ready to unplug the damn phone and just chill for a while.
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                  • BigBadBrian
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                    • Jan 2004
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                    #24
                    Originally posted by FORD
                    Let's hope not... he's just the NY version of Evan Bayh. The son of a famous Democrat who turned into a useless DINO.
                    FORD, you're just going to have to realize that most Democrats aren't out on the Left-wing fringe like you are. Except that idiot jhale. He's King of the Moonbats!

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                    • Terry
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                      • Jan 2004
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                      #25
                      It is a bit too far out to say Hillary has a lock on winning the nomination, though...I mean, she was considered a lock even as far back as 2004 (and many dems in fact wanted her to run in 2004) and out of nowhere comes a guy in Chicago who nobody had ever heard of and ends up besting her...

                      A lot can happen in four years, and with Democrats it can often be people you've never even heard of who end up surprising the pundits (one would labor in vain to find much of anything in the way of even mentioning Jimmy Cater in any news accounts following the immediate wake of McGovern being blown out in 1972).
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                      • Satan
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                        • Jan 2004
                        • 6664

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Terry
                        It is a bit too far out to say Hillary has a lock on winning the nomination, though...I mean, she was considered a lock even as far back as 2004 (and many dems in fact wanted her to run in 2004) and out of nowhere comes a guy in Chicago who nobody had ever heard of and ends up besting her...

                        A lot can happen in four years, and with Democrats it can often be people you've never even heard of who end up surprising the pundits (one would labor in vain to find much of anything in the way of even mentioning Jimmy Cater in any news accounts following the immediate wake of McGovern being blown out in 1972).
                        Obama pretty much followed Bill Clinton's model.... Bill delivered the keynote speech at the DNC in 1988 and then ran 4 years later. He probably would have been a better candidate than Dukakis even then. Everybody was looking at Obama as a potential candidate the minute after he finished his speech at the 2004 convention... though most were thinking he would be a few years down the road, probably 2016 or 2020.

                        So with Carter, Clinton, and Obama that's pretty much a precedent of Democratic Presidents who were virtually unheard of (at least on a national basis) 4 years before they ran for the job.

                        Ironically enough, the big speech this year was from Bill Clinton.... so that means the next President won't be the guy who gave the big speech at the last gig.
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                        • BigBadBrian
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                          • Jan 2004
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                          #27
                          Martin O'Malley / Kristen Gillibrand ...there's your 2016 ticket, Dems.
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                          • Satan
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                            • Jan 2004
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                            #28
                            Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                            Martin O'Malley / Kristen Gillibrand ...there's your 2016 ticket, Dems.
                            Great.... a guy born and raised inside the Beltway, and a senator from New York. Yeah, that will inspire the rest of the country.

                            The Demoncrats need to have at least one person on that ticket from the western half of the country. Strategically, the Mountain time zone, since the west coast states are solid blue anyway.

                            I'm actually scratching my horns trying to figure out why Bill Richardson didn't get a better shot at the title last time around. His resume put both Obama and Hillary to shame.

                            Brian Schweitzer, the governor of Montana, might be a possibility. And he hates Shittizens United, which would be a plus for the Demoncratic party base. But I think Richardson might have the edge because of the battle over the Latino vote.
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                            • Seshmeister
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                              • Oct 2003
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
                              Frankly, the Republicans could have easily won the last two elections if they didn't shoot themselves in the foot....

                              If McCain would have chosen someone, ANYONE, other than fuckin' Palin, it's very plausible that they win....

                              And this time, honestly, they could have ran McCain again and he would have done better than Romney....
                              But look at the other candidates.

                              If you had put that cast together for a comedy movie it would have been too far fetched.

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                              • FORD
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                                • Jan 2004
                                • 59560

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Seshmeister
                                But look at the other candidates.

                                If you had put that cast together for a comedy movie it would have been too far fetched.
                                You should e mail Mel Brooks with that idea. It sounds like something he could pull off.
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