For Our UK Friends....Interactive Map Showing Where Bombs Fell In London....

[Kristy]

Says the chick who obviously used both and provided a Wiki link. You really are a tad delusional...

Yes. Unlike you I quote where I get my info from.

[Nickdfresh]

Yes. Unlike you I quote where I get my info from.

Well genius, so do I. Reread this post at your leisure and when you're again lucid...

Göring was stupid old cunt, but he had some able underlings. The real problem was German economy simply could not produce enough four engine bombers with everything else as rearming had been prohibitively expensive. This was also compounded by the fact that the Luftwaffe was created almost from scratch only five or six years earlier, making it very modern in comparison to the French Armée de l'Air and the RAF. Four engined bombers were horrendously expensive compared even to twin engined ones and twin engined bombers were good enough to deal with countries bordering Germany in 1940. But more realistic senior commanders like Ernst Udet realized early on that the Luftwaffe could never sustain a strategic air war without vastly more production becoming available. It's one of the reasons he ended up committing suicide because he realized that after a while, Göring was a blusterous liar who favored other blustery liars.

It's also the reason Hitler ordered the invasion of the Soviet Union, because the Germans believed their only hope against the industrial juggernaut that was the United States and the inevitable Anglo-American Alliance was seizing the USSR's 'means of production.' This was not only completely unrealistic, it was also ironic as the Soviets were able to move their factories to places like Tank'ograd in Western Russia and Siberia beyond the range of most German bombers - the industry Germany hoped to use to make four and even six engined bombers. Adam Tooze has a great book on all this called The Wages of Destruction....

There, I enlarged it for you in case it's all blurry and shit and you're seeing things...

[Kristy]

Says the chick who obviously used both and provided a Wiki link. You really are a tad delusional...

Oh, I'm delusional? You fucking piggyback on 90% of your post from the likes of Wiki or Google. You just rewrite them for BrainDeadBrian knowing he's too stupid to notice.

[Nickdfresh]

Oh, I'm delusional? You fucking piggyback on 90% of your post from the likes of Wiki or Google. You just rewrite them for BrainDeadBrian knowing he's too stupid to notice.

LOL Okay, I haven't read dozens of books on WWII and have no idea what I'm talking about. You win. I admit it! It's all an endless Wiki-fest! Well, fuck me then, to bad there's no Wiki that can help you from making idiotic posts on everything from erratic music choices to making asinine comments making yourself look like a fucktarded meltdown case. But good job finding the Condor by using Wiki, you dumb bitch. But the thing is that I knew what a fucking Condor was when you were still fingering yourself to episodes of Hannah Montana and already knew it wasn't in anyway comparable to a real four engined bomber. That alone proves how absurd your Wiki and Google it all comment is. Because if I Google and Wiki everything for bullshit, you're a fucking fail at it and a pretty pathetic try-hard one at that!

I've never claimed to be an expert on specific weapons systems like Luftwaffe aircraft and find overly reading about specific weapons (with the possible exception of American tanks of the time period) to be rather boring. But I know enough not to pull shit out of my ass and vomit it up on a message board in order to win some bullshit trollish semantic dick-contest you seem to so love to engage in. Do I use Google? Yep! Have I read Wiki entries (and done some minor rewrites and additions)? Yep! Who gives a fuck!?! But I have more content in PDF-document books regarding WWII I've downloaded from 'The Leavenworth Papers' (alone) than you've ever read of anything, period!

But if logging onto the internet and engaging is asshole, attention-whore flame'athons presents a distraction from your erratic, drug addled life and prevents you from stabbing your roommate or boiling your ex-boyfriend's pets, well good on'ya!

[jhale667]

LOL Okay, I haven't read dozens of books on WWII and have no idea what I'm talking about. You win. I admit it! It's all an endless Wiki-fest! Well, fuck me then, to bad there's no Wiki that can help you from making idiotic posts on everything from erratic music choices to making asinine comments making yourself look like a fucktarded meltdown case. But good job finding the Condor by using Wiki, you dumb bitch. But the thing is that I knew what a fucking Condor was when you were still fingering yourself to episodes of Hannah Montana and already knew it wasn't in anyway comparable to a real four engined bomber. That alone proves how absurd your Wiki and Google it all comment is. Because if I Google and Wiki everything for bullshit, you're a fucking fail at it and a pretty pathetic try-hard one at that!

I've never claimed to be an expert on specific weapons systems like Luftwaffe aircraft and find overly reading about specific weapons (with the possible exception of American tanks of the time period) to be rather boring. But I know enough not to pull shit out of my ass and vomit it up on a message board in order to win some bullshit trollish semantic dick-contest you seem to so love to engage in. Do I use Google? Yep! Have I read Wiki entries (and done some minor rewrites and additions)? Yep! Who gives a fuck!?! But I have more content in PDF-document books regarding WWII I've downloaded from 'The Leavenworth Papers' (alone) than you've ever read of anything, period!

But if logging onto the internet and engaging is asshole, attention-whore flame'athons presents a distraction from your erratic, drug addled life and prevents you from stabbing your roommate or boiling your ex-boyfriend's pets, well good on'ya!

Oh, SNAP!

[Nickdfresh]

If anyone is really interested in Luftwaffe bombers, here's a five year old thread from another site I mod:

http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?4618-Luftwaffe-Heavy-bombers-amp-transports

[Kristy]

L You win.

Thanks. The rest of you spiteful self-aggrandizing shit I never bothered to read.

[Nitro Express]

I think World War III just started.

[Hardrock69]

I laughed hysterically at seeing Bri go after the troll. I am still laffing.

Shut up, Krusty. Go post to all your psycho-bitch friends at the forums at www.iamafuckingcunt.com.

[Nickdfresh]

Thanks. The rest of you spiteful self-aggrandizing shit I never bothered to read.

I've been told!

[DavidLeeNatra]

we can all be glad that Göring and Hitler were so stupid not to see the importance of modern planes and other weapons. they had the first jets, the first plane which was made of one wing (which became the stealth-bomber later) and the V2. they easily could have had the bomb, too. we had some good technology here back then.

[BigBadBrian]

Oh, I'm delusional? You fucking piggyback on 90% of your post from the likes of Wiki or Google. You just rewrite them for BrainDeadBrian knowing he's too stupid to notice.

Unlike you, I know Nick is an avid student of history, particularly military history, as am I. He's a mod at a particular history website and while I don't always agree with him (usually do, though), I will at least give him a listen. You, on the other hand, post just to argue.

[BigBadBrian]

we can all be glad that Göring and Hitler were so stupid not to see the importance of modern planes and other weapons. they had the first jets, the first plane which was made of one wing (which became the stealth-bomber later) and the V2. they easily could have had the bomb, too. we had some good technology here back then.

That's very true. We can also be glad Hitler chose to the commander-in-chief of the armed forces instead of someone competent like von Manstein (who was considered by his colleagues to be brilliant).

[binnie]

I heard that Jimmy Page used some parts of a German bomber to make the amps he used to record the first three Led Zeppelin records.......

[jhale667]

Unlike you, I know Nick is an avid student of history, particularly military history, as am I. He's a mod at a particular history website and while I don't always agree with him (usually do, though), I will at least give him a listen. You, on the other hand, post just to argue.

I fucking hate to agree with you...but in this case I do.