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  • DONNIEP
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Mar 2004
    • 13373

    And I say there is NO such thing as premature ejaculation!! I call it instant gratification
    American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.

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    • jhale667
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 20929

      Originally posted by DONNIEP
      And I say there is NO such thing as premature ejaculation!! I call it instant gratification
      Your girlfriend would probably disagree...
      Originally posted by conmee
      If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

      That is all.

      Icon.
      Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
      I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


      Originally posted by Isaac R.
      Then it's really true??:eek:

      The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

      OMFG...who in their right mind...???
      Originally posted by eddie78
      I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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      • DONNIEP
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • Mar 2004
        • 13373

        Originally posted by jhale667
        Your girlfriend would probably disagree...
        American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.

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        • ZahZoo
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Jan 2004
          • 8975

          Originally posted by ELVIS
          It wouldn't have much of an immediate affect, but they're not gonna stop after the first step...

          It's not the governments business what type of legal firearm a law-abiding citizen possesses, period...
          Oh please... you're talking about a bunch of rich bastards who couldn't make a beer fart in whirlwind working together... all they really can do is spend and mismanage our money. There's no money in gun control... so I'd say there's very little to worry about here.

          Come on... the feds can't even deploy simple standards for electronic medical records effectively. Now all of sudden you think they can develop, deploy and manage the extensive resources to register and track millions of guns? Seriously..?
          "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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          • Nickdfresh
            SUPER MODERATOR

            • Oct 2004
            • 49219

            Originally posted by ELVIS
            Paul Joseph Watson
            ....while the mainstream media turns a blind eye.


            LMFAO!! This pants-pissing conspiracy shit has already been debunked. Morons!

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            • ELVIS
              Banned
              • Dec 2003
              • 44120

              What's been debunked, exactly ??

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              • ELVIS
                Banned
                • Dec 2003
                • 44120

                A few points to ponder...


                “To disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them.” — George Mason, 1788

                “A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves…and include all men capable of bearing arms.” — Richard Henry Lee, 1788

                “Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American… The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state government, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.” — Tench Coxe, 1788

                “The constitutions of most of our States assert, that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves,…or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed…” — Thomas Jefferson, 1824

                “That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms…” — Samuel Adams, 1850




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                • Nickdfresh
                  SUPER MODERATOR

                  • Oct 2004
                  • 49219

                  Originally posted by ELVIS
                  What's been debunked, exactly ??
                  It was discussed somewhere else here. But this is your typical recycled bullshit that leaves out things like "facts" and "context." Dude, are you done choking on Alex Jones' cock yet?

                  Homeland Security Buying Ammunition (Again)
                  by Brian Dunning, Sep 20 2012

                  News on the conspiracy websites is once again reporting that the US Department of Homeland Security is making huge purchases of ammunition, which they believe is to be used against American citizens. For the entire decade I’ve been following the conspiracy theorists, they’ve been predicting the imminent war on the American people by the American government. That this prediction has always failed to come true every time it’s been made has not seemed to suggest to any of them that perhaps the idea should be reviewed.

                  This particular report from our old friends at InfoWars cites a purchase of 750 million rounds of ammunition in addition to a previous purchase of 450 million rounds. Evidently it has not occurred to anyone at InfoWars to consider reasons for this other than a war on the citizens.

                  Why else might Homeland Security buy ammunition? You don’t have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure it out. Homeland Security encompasses a huge number of federal agencies. It’s not just FEMA and the TSA, whom the conspiracy theorists usually name as the agencies on the verge of declaring war against us. DHS also includes these five agencies, all of whom blow through a lot of ammo, and are in a constant state of readiness to blow through a whole lot more:

                  Federal Law Enforcement Training Center
                  United States Customs and Border Protection
                  United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement
                  United States Coast Guard
                  United States Secret Service


                  It’s fine to harbor ideological objections to the idea of DHS, FEMA, TSA, what have you; and fine to keep a sharp watchdog eye on the government. What’s stupid is to just make up infantile crap without even taking the trouble to check Wikipedia to see where that ammunition is needed.
                  Skeptic Blog

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                  • DavidLeeNatra
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10715

                    Originally posted by ELVIS
                    A few points to ponder...


                    “To disarm the people is the best and most effective way to enslave them.” — George Mason, 1788

                    “A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves…and include all men capable of bearing arms.” — Richard Henry Lee, 1788

                    “Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords, and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American… The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state government, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people.” — Tench Coxe, 1788

                    “The constitutions of most of our States assert, that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves,…or they may act by representatives, freely and equally chosen; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed…” — Thomas Jefferson, 1824

                    “That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms…” — Samuel Adams, 1850




                    but you reckon that we live in 2013 now?
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                    • jacksmar
                      Full Member Status

                      • Feb 2004
                      • 3533

                      Follow up on Ubama shill:



                      The Washington Metropolitan Police Department (MPD) inquiry into whether NBC’s David Gregory possession on national TV of an illegal 30-round “high-capacity” magazine has been ongoing for three weeks. Meanwhile, U.S. Army veteran James Brinkley is still grappling with the fallout from his arrest last year on the same charge.

                      Mr. Brinkley’s story is just one example of at least 105 individuals who, unlike Mr. Gregory, were arrested in 2012 for having a magazine that can hold more than 10 rounds.

                      On Sept. 8, Mr. Brinkley says he intended to drop his wife and young children at the White House for a tour and then head to a shooting range to practice for the U.S. Marshals Service test. Just like Mr. Gregory, Mr. Brinkley called MPD in advance for guidance on how he could do this legally. Mr. Brinkley was told that the gun had to be unloaded and locked in the trunk, and he couldn’t park the car and walk around.

                      Unlike Mr. Gregory, Mr. Brinkley followed the police orders by placing his Glock 22 in a box with a big padlock in the trunk of his Dodge Charger. The two ordinary, 15-round magazines were not in the gun, and he did not have any ammunition with him.

                      Last edited by jacksmar; 01-05-2013, 08:26 AM.
                      A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49219

                        Right, jacksoff, only mass murders have the right to large magazines. It's funny how douchebags are so out to get anyone who expresses an opinion they don't like, but also seem out to protect the rights of insane murderers access to firearms...

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49219

                          Bump! It's funny how douchebags here have a hard-on for journalists who dare speak of gun control, but there was no outrage over this!:


                          But there's a reason you won't see anyone investigating ATF: Its failings are the direct result of actions by the Republican politicians who now control both houses of Congress. At the behest of the National Rifle Association (NRA), GOP lawmakers (and some conservative Democrats) have saddled the bureau with so many legal restrictions that it has little practical power to deter sellers from allowing weapons to flow to criminals. ATF could have cracked down harder on Bull's Eye, but its lack of aggressiveness was precisely what GOP lawmakers had intended. Pro-gun-control Democrats could have made an issue last fall of how Muhammad obtained a sniper rifle, but they remained silent in the face of feared retribution at the polls by the NRA. Now, as the minority party, Democrats have little power to investigate anything, even if they wanted to.

                          Convenient Lack of Suspicion

                          Every year, more than 200,000 guns used in crimes are traced back to licensed gun dealers like Bull's Eye. Some are originally purchased by law-abiding citizens and later stolen. Others get sold (inadvertently) by dealers to "straw purchasers" who don't have criminal records but are acting as fronts for criminals. In many other cases, however, gun dealers eager to make an extra buck simply sell firearms to anyone who wants them, skipping background checks and falsifying paperwork to cover their tracks.

                          Of the 83,000 retail firearms dealers in America, ATF shuts down only about 25 annually. These are the most egregious wrongdoers, dealers caught red-handed fencing stolen weapons or openly selling large numbers of firearms to criminals. Yet these few cases account for only a fraction of the guns that flow to criminals from licensed dealers. The bigger problem stems from hundreds of other dealers who, through laziness, sloppy inventory control, convenient lack of suspicion, or under-the-table shenanigans, wind up arming criminals.

                          It is these dealers that ATF has virtually no power to control. Though it can shut a dealer down permanently--a fitting punishment only in egregious cases--ATF has no power to temporarily suspend a dealer's license, or impose a fine--steps that might remind a dealer to be vigilant about sales rules. Nor can it audit a gun dealer more than once a year, a rule that assures crooked dealers 364 days to do uninterrupted business. And because of dubious judicial precedent, the bureau's agents can't get a dealer charged with selling to a felon by going undercover and posing as felons.

                          Worse still, from a law-enforcement perspective, is the fact that federal law treats all record-keeping errors by gun dealers as, at most, misdemeanors--even in cases where ATF can prove that a dealer falsified records. This makes it practically impossible to bring gun dealers to court for record-keeping violations, since federal prosecutors, already burdened with more felony cases than they can litigate, usually don't accept misdemeanor referrals.

                          You'll be hard pressed to find another federal agency that, charged with enforcing laws dealing with legal but potentially dangerous products, must operate under similar handicaps. The Drug Enforcement Administration, which monitors the illegal diversion of prescription drugs, can pursue felony charges against a pharmacy for record-keeping problems; temporarily suspend the license of a problematic pharmacy; and when it has evidence of wrongdoing, mount an undercover approach to determine if a doctor is writing bogus prescriptions or if a pharmacist is illegally dispensing controlled substances. Even the Department of Agriculture, which is notoriously emasculated when it comes to enforcing federal standards, can, after a major food poisoning incident, temporarily stop production at an unsanitary meat packing plant, fine the plant, and re-visit for a new round of inspections in six months.

                          Reagan's Political Trifecta

                          Washington has been trying to keep deadly weapons out of criminal hands for almost seven decades. In 1934, alarmed by the violence of organized criminals like Al Capone, Congress passed the nation's first gun-control law, which gave the Treasury Department the power to tax and require owner registration of "gangster-type weapons." In 1938, it passed another measure requiring gun manufacturers and dealers to obtain federal licenses and banning the sale of firearms to known criminals. Thirty years later, in response to rising crime rates and the assassinations of John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, and Martin Luther King Jr., the federal government clamped down further with passage of the 1968 Gun Control Act. Among other things, this law mandated that sellers keep transaction records and prohibited felons, illegal aliens, and a few other categories of people from buying or possessing firearms. In 1972, Treasury designated ATF as a separate agency in the department.

                          The NRA vehemently opposed the 1968 legislation, which marked the beginning of the association's transformation from its more traditional focus on training sportsmen in gun safety into the anti-enforcement, lobbying superpower we know today. Since 1968, the association has increasingly devoted more resources to waging political fights, and has constantly lobbied to minimize the power of ATF, often breathing fire when speaking of it. During the 1970s as ATF stepped up its policing of gun dealers, the NRA fought back, portraying ATF agents as "jack-booted fascists" and arguing that efforts targeting gun stores and their customers were nothing more than harassment. After all, the NRA argued, criminals don't get their guns from gun stores; they steal them from law-abiding gun-owners.


                          So, if you dolts stop fingering your assholes with mindless pro-gun diatribes and bother to read the above, you'll see that convenience stores are policed harder and have far more restrictions against selling minors alcohol and tobacco than gun stores have against selling felons and psychos guns!
                          Last edited by Nickdfresh; 01-05-2013, 09:26 AM.

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                          • ELVIS
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 44120

                            Fuck off, crybaby...

                            Eric Holder, the criminal, along with select ATF agents purposely allowed THOUSANDS of guns to be sold to individuals that they believed would get them into the hands of Mexican drug cartels, PERIOD...

                            Other ATF agents were then specifically ordered not to intercept the guns before they crossed the border...

                            What part of that don't you get ??


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                            • Nickdfresh
                              SUPER MODERATOR

                              • Oct 2004
                              • 49219

                              Originally posted by ELVIS
                              Fuck off, crybaby...

                              Eric Holder, the criminal, along with select ATF agents purposely allowed THOUSANDS of guns to be sold to individuals that they believed would get them into the hands of Mexican drug cartels, PERIOD...

                              Other ATF agents were then specifically ordered not to intercept the guns before they crossed the border...

                              What part of that don't you get ??


                              There weren't "thousands" of guns, you moron. And it was Bush's DOJ that began the project, Holder was allowing it to continue...

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                              • ELVIS
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 44120

                                Nah, the crimes started in Oct. 2009 under Holder and it's over 2000 guns of various types...

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