Now We're Killing Fire Fighters ?!?!

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what now? arming the firefighters? what do you have next? armed busdrivers? armed teachers? armed nurses and doctors?

your country will turn into a giant O.K. Corral and go down in a giant shootout.

Yep.... The Wild Wild West IS the United States of America. ...
Let the memes begin.....
We (certain sorts of the US) are and have been the uncivilized problem of the world for quite some time now.

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you come to that point! maybe the problem is not the computer games but too many western movies back then?

That point is well served. ....

One great similarity of the eras are the out of control big business, AKA modern terms conglomerate corporations. It was during the frontier west (AKA wild west) that certain sorts of multinationals began switching the laws from a debt slavery to a racial slavery. A very corrupt and unethical thing to do.

What is common in those two eras is the rampant corruption and vileness of plutocracy especially against proletarians, along with the hard sell that you too could get rich..... "if you strike gold in them thar hills" ... Very similar to striking gold in "them thar hills" now thar being popular culture. I am not saying, all that have succeeded in popular culture is vileness of plutocracy. However, it (it being in very simple terms, that all can be wealthy ) is presented as a viable , giving the vile of plutocracy opportunity to discard normal responsibilities that come with significant ploutos (wealth) .

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_American_Old_West

I would study it before it begins to be altered on a regular basis by unethical PR firms....

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Dumb cunt made "strawman purchase" for murderer...

I was told the weapons were purchased by his "mama", but can't say for sure. The rifle was a Bushmaster, the same used in the Sandy Hook massacre...

I was wrong! WTF! I was actually near Webster/Rochester when this broke...

Dawn Nguyen charged in connection with Webster, NY, firefighter murder
Friday, December 28, 2012

The Associated Press

Dawn Nguyen is escorted into the Federal Building, Friday, Dec. 28, 2012, in Rochester, N.Y., and charged in connection with the guns used in the Christmas Eve ambush slaying of two volunteer firefighters responding to a house fire in Webster, N.Y

December 28, 2012 (WEBSTER, N.Y.) -- A 24-year-old woman was arrested Friday and charged in connection with the guns used in the Christmas Eve ambush slaying of two volunteer firefighters responding to a house fire in upstate New York.

Dawn Nguyen of Rochester faces a federal charge of knowingly making a false statement, U.S. Attorney William Hochul said. She also was charged with a state count of filing a falsified business record, State Police Senior Investigator James Newell said.

Newell said the charges are connected to the purchase of an AR-15 semiautomatic rifle and a 12-gauge shotgun that William Spengler had with him Monday when firefighters Michael Chiapperini and Tomasz Kaczowka were gunned down. Three other people were wounded before the 62-year-old Spengler killed himself. He also had a .38-caliber revolver, but Nguyen is not connected to that gun, Newell said.

Hochul said Nguyen bought the two guns on June 6, 2010, on behalf of Spengler, who as a convicted felon was barred from possessing weapons. Police used the serial numbers on the guns to trace them to Nguyen.

"She told the seller of these guns, Gander Mountain in Henrietta, N.Y., that she was to be the true owner and buyer of the guns instead of William Spengler," Hochul said. "It is absolutely against federal law to provide any materially false information related to the acquisition of firearms."

"It is sometimes referred to acting as a straw purchaser and that is exactly what today's complaint alleges," he said.

Police say Spengler went with Nguyen to Gander Mountain and picked out the weapons himself. During an interview late on Christmas Eve, she told police she had bought the guns for personal protection and that they were stolen from her vehicle, though she never reported the guns stolen.

The day after the shootings, Nguyen texted an off-duty Monroe County Sheriff's deputy with references to the killings. She later called the deputy and admitted she bought the guns for Spengler, police said Friday.

That information was consistent with a suicide note found near Spengler's body after he killed himself.

The .223-caliber Bushmaster rifle, which had a combat-style flash suppressor, is similar to the one used by the gunman who massacred 20 children and six women in a Newtown, Conn., elementary school earlier this month.

Nguyen and her mother, Dawn Welsher, lived next door to Spengler in 2008. On Wednesday and again on Friday, shortly before her arrest, she answered her cellphone and told The Associated Press that she didn't want to talk about Spengler. Her brother, Steven Nguyen, told the Democrat and Chronicle newspaper of Rochester that Spengler stole the guns from Dawn Nguyen.

A number listed in the name of her lawyer, David Palmiere, was disconnected.

Spengler set a car on fire and touched off an inferno in his Webster home on a strip of land along the Lake Ontario shore, took up a sniper's position and opened fire on the first firefighters to arrive at about 5:30 a.m. on Christmas Eve, authorities said. He wounded two other firefighters and an off-duty police officer who was on his way to work.

A Webster police officer who had accompanied the firefighters shot back at Spengler with a rifle in a brief exchange of gunfire before the gunman killed himself.

Spengler spent 17 years in prison for killing his grandmother in 1980.

Investigators still haven't released the identity of remains found in William Spengler's burned house. They have said they believe the remains are those of his 67-year-old sister, Cheryl Spengler, who also lived in the house near Rochester and has been unaccounted for since the killings. The Spengler siblings had lived in the home with their mother, Arline Spengler, who died in October. In all, seven houses were destroyed by the flames.

Investigators found a rambling, typed letter laying out Spengler's intention to destroy his neighborhood and "do what I like doing best, killing people."

He had been released from parole in 2006 on the manslaughter conviction, and authorities said they had had no encounters with him since.

The federal charges carry a maximum penalty of ten years imprisonment, a fine of $250,000 or both.

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