RIP General Norman Schwarzkopf

[BigBadBrian]

He also had things Rommel didn't have like adequate supplies, an enemy that hadn't cracked his code, complete air supremacy, and a large tech advantage over his enemies.

True enough. I've always maintained that it wasn't Montgomery (whom i think was an average commander) that defeated Rommel in Africa, it was the RAF and Royal Navy for limiting the supplies/equipment that Rommel received. Had things been more even, i think Rommel would have spanked Montgomery severely.

Regardless, it was still quite a feat to move all those troops and equipment through the desert without the Iraqis catching wind of it.

BTW, I don't know about Schwartz, but most American generals and armor officers masturbate all over Rommel's picture with adoration--which is strange because if you actually go into Rommel he had his limitations and is overrated...

Along with Guderian.

[Nickdfresh]

For one, he had better luck in the desert than Rommel did.

He also had things Rommel didn't have like adequate supplies, an enemy that hadn't cracked his code, complete air supremacy, and a large tech advantage over his enemies. You could argue Rommel had that in France or whatever, but Schwarzkopf wasn't any sort of particular genius, it was all very workmanlike--not that there is anything wrong with that.

BTW, I don't know about Schwartz, but most American generals and armor officers masturbate all over Rommel's picture with adoration--which is strange because if you actually go into Rommel he had his limitations and is overrated...

He snuck the entire Allied 7th Corps over onto the left side of line to come around the flank and rear of the Republican Guard divisions, trapping them and resulting in their partial destruction. Saddam had no choice but to fall back or face the complete and total annihilation of his divisions.

Why don't you ask the Iraqis what was so brilliant about Desert Storm? They'll tell you about the tens of thousands of Iraqi soldiers that never came home.

He used basic deception and maneuver warfare against a crippled enemy that had no means to divine what the Coalition was going to do and had poor communications. And I like Norman, but he also signed a fucked-up treaty that the Iraqis were able to take advantage of with loopholes regarding the use of their helicopter gunships (but not fixed wing aircraft, which they had few of left of consequence anyways). He was by no means Alexander the Great...

[Nickdfresh]

ah, come on guys...what was so brillant about "Desert Storm"? He send a shitload of B-52's, PGM's and Daisy Cutters on old school tanks dug in the sand. and at the end of the day Saddam Hussein was still sitting on his ass in Bagdad, while the oil fields were burning.

He was competent, mediocre general IMHO. There was nothing particularly brilliant about his planning and execution after achieving absolute air supremacy, but I found him to be a bit gloaty about it all. I think Schwarzkopf was a decent well meaning man, like most generals. Even Westmorland was a good and decent man, even if he was terrible as a commander in Vietnam. But Schwarzkopf was a solid commander that executed pretty much textbook maneuvers, not much more...

But I can't see anyone hating him and blaming him for executing a war he didn't start and was ordered to conduct lawfully within political limitations. And while I'm no fan of the Gulf Wars, let's not forget that Saddam was a budding fucking scumbag that invaded a small country on his border simply because they pissed him off just as he invaded Iran because he had delusions of controlling the Middle East. Yes, it was mostly about oil, and our biggest failure no one mentions is that we simply reinstalled the Kuwaiti Emir who was a cunt wining and dining himself as many Kuwaitis resisted occupation with real heroism under the thread of often horrific death...

[Hardrock69]

Listen Lounge, I built this fucking place.... I will say whatever I want... whenever I want...

I am the STAR of the Roth Army and you better show me respect before I take your job away...

I am talking to SARGE now...

[Hardrock69]

You can even go around in your shit stained ass and tell all your friends you fucked SIR WARF star of the Van Halen "She's The Woman" video...... u hu hu hu hu h uh h uhhu uh

Cum to me my troll.... let's make troll babies....

[Little Texan]

Anybody remember Chris Farley as Norman Schwarzkopf on SNL?

[Baby's On Fire]

It probably applies MORE to Powell than it does to Schwarzkopf.

Stormin Norman merely followed orders like any good soldier (regardless of how I feel about the orders, and in the case of invading Iraq, I didn't like them)

Powell, on the other hand, KNOWINGLY lied to the UN in order to build the fraudulent case for the second invasion of Iraq.

But Colin Powell did at least admit his error in hindsight. Whether he knew about the bullshit in advance or not, at least he manned-up.

[Hardrock69]

ah, come on guys...what was so brillant about "Desert Storm"? He send a shitload of B-52's, PGM's and Daisy Cutters on old school tanks dug in the sand. and at the end of the day Saddam Hussein was still sitting on his ass in Bagdad, while the oil fields were burning.

No. "He" did not. He was just obeying orders from the Pentagon.

Desert Storm was being planned by the Pentagon as early as 1976.

[BigBadBrian]

ah, come on guys...what was so brillant about "Desert Storm"?

For one, he had better luck in the desert than Rommel did.

He snuck the entire Allied 7th Corps over onto the left side of line to come around the flank and rear of the Republican Guard divisions, trapping them and resulting in their partial destruction. Saddam had no choice but to fall back or face the complete and total annihilation of his divisions.

Why don't you ask the Iraqis what was so brilliant about Desert Storm? They'll tell you about the tens of thousands of Iraqi soldiers that never came home.

[FORD]

Is that a guitar? I've never heard of it. But then, I think my 1984 model Hondo is pretty fucking awesome...lol. It does have a Bill Lawrence humbucker in it. My sister was a sales rep for them a while & had several.

Mick Taylor is playing a Gretsch here. Not sure of the year. You'll notice it's similar to the Les Paul that Woody is playing, yet different....

[sadaist]

Did a 1956 Gretsch the other day.

Is that a guitar? I've never heard of it. But then, I think my 1984 model Hondo is pretty fucking awesome...lol. It does have a Bill Lawrence humbucker in it. My sister was a sales rep for them a while & had several.

[jhale667]

Do you even read this shit before you post it?

Did a 1956 Gretsch the other day.

My you truly are a failure - and not just at music.

OK....let's review: read that first sentence.

Did a 1956 Gretsch the other day.

And then the second.

My you truly are a failure - and not just at music.

Repeat.

What have we learned?


The fail is so much stronger with YOU, Trixie.

[WARF]

Welcome back to the army Sarge...shit hasn't changed since May 2000... \m/

[WARF]

Tell me WARF, just how much money did your parents spend on therapy for you while growing up?

Obviously not enough..... u hu hu hu h uh huhuhuh uh h u hu hu hh u

Come on baybee.....

[LoungeMachine]

Did a 1956 Gretsch the other day.

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He leave the cash on the nightstand first?