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  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    Attack of the Killer Drones

    Aljazeera

    Two US drone strikes in the Pakistan tribal regions bordering Afghanistan have killed at least nine people, including a senior tribal leader who was known to have ties to the Afghan Taliban, Pakistani intelligence officials have said.

    Six people, including Taliban-linked commander Mullah Nazir, who also had a truce with Pakistan's military, were killed in the strike in South Waziristan and three others were killed in the second strike in the North, officials said on Thursday.

    According to the officials, the US drone fired two missiles at Nazir's home in the Sar Kanda area of Birmil in Pakistan's northwestern tribal district of South Waziristan.

    They spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to brief the media.

    "The attack by a US drone late last night targeted a house in the An-goor Adda area in South Waziristan on the Afghan border," Al Jazeera's Kamal Hyder reported.

    "Mullah Nazir was among those killed. The strike happened at a time when the US wants to talk with the Taliban... this is a major setback."

    Nazir reached a peace deal with Islamabad in 2007 and had testy relations with the Pakistani Taliban, who are fighting a domestic insurgency.

    His death may have significance on US-led efforts to hold at bay an 11-year insurgency in neighbouring Afghanistan, where he opposed the presence of US and NATO troops since foreign troops brought down the Taliban regime in 2001.

    Nazir was also understood to be close to the al-Qaeda-linked Haqqani network, a faction of the Afghan Taliban blamed for some of the most high-profile attacks in Afghanistan and the capital Kabul in recent years.

    Two of his influential deputies, Atta Ullah and Rafey Khan, were among those killed, the official added, and Nazir's fighters have been targeted by US drone strikes in the past.

    Civilian casualties

    Another US drone fired two missiles at a vehicle carrying fighters in northwest Pakistan, killing at least three people near the Afghan border, local security officials said.

    The missiles struck the vehicle in Mubarak Shahi village, 20km east of Miranshah, the main town in North Waziristan tribal district, a stronghold of Taliban and al-Qaeda-linked fighters.

    "There has been no confirmation of the exact target in the northern Waziristan strike... but that region has received the highest intensity of strikes," Hyder reported.

    Another security official in the northwestern city of Peshawar confirmed the attack and casualties.

    Both officials said the identity of those killed was not yet known.

    The covert US drone strikes are publicly criticised by the Pakistani government as a violation of sovereignty but American officials believe they are a vital weapon in the war against insurgency in the country.

    In September, a report commissioned by legal lobby group, Reprieve, estimated that between 474 and 881 civilians were among 2,562 to 3,325 people killed by drones in Pakistan between June 2004 and September 2012.


  • DLR Bridge
    ROCKSTAR

    • Mar 2011
    • 5479

    #2
    Originally posted by ELVIS
    Reprieve, estimated that between 474 and 881 civilians were among 2,562 to 3,325 people killed by drones in Pakistan between June 2004 and September 2012.
    Not exactly surgical, huh? Yikes.

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    • BigBadBrian
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Jan 2004
      • 10625

      #3
      Originally posted by ELVIS

      Two US drone strikes in the Pakistan tribal regions bordering Afghanistan have killed at least nine people, including a senior tribal leader who was known to have ties to the Afghan Taliban, Pakistani intelligence officials have said.
      I've read so many books and periodical articles about the war in Afghanistan lately that I wonder if we shouldn't be whacking certain Pakistanis for betraying us.

      I couldn't give a hoot in Hell about Palistanis being killed by drones.

      They actively aid al-Qaeda and the Taliban against US Forces. They knowingly hid Osama bin Laden.

      Fuck them.

      Fuck algore-jazeera also.
      “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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      • DLR Bridge
        ROCKSTAR

        • Mar 2011
        • 5479

        #4
        Originally posted by BigBadBrian
        Fuck them.
        Including civilians? You're one hostile bird.

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        • ELVIS
          Banned
          • Dec 2003
          • 44120

          #5
          Originally posted by BigBadBrian
          I've read so many books and periodical articles about the war in Afghanistan lately that I wonder if we shouldn't be whacking certain Pakistanis for betraying us.

          "We" shouldn't be whacking anyone...

          We need to bring out troops home from that shit hole...


          I couldn't give a hoot in Hell about Palistanis being killed by drones.

          That's a fucked up thing to say...

          They actively aid al-Qaeda and the Taliban against US Forces. They knowingly hid Osama bin Laden.

          US forces shouldn't be there, and they didn't hide shit, Bin Laden was dead at the time...

          Fuck them.

          Fuck algore-jazeera also.

          You're a real piece of propaganda believing work...

          And you call yourself a Christian but say "fuck them" regarding civilian casualties ??

          I'm gonna tell you like John Boner...

          Go fuck yourself...


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          • ELVIS
            Banned
            • Dec 2003
            • 44120

            #6
            Saudi jets bolster US drone attacks on Yemen

            AFP - Saudi Arabia has provided fighter jets to assist the United States with its drone strikes against Al-Qaeda targets in Yemen, the London Times reported on Friday.

            US drones are backing Yemeni forces combating militants of Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP). The group's Yemen branch is considered by Washington to be the most active and deadliest franchise of the global jihadist network.

            The Times cited a US intelligence source as saying that "some of the so-called drone missions are actually Saudi Air Force missions".

            US drone attacks in Yemen nearly tripled in 2012 compared to 2011, according to the Washington-based think tank New America Foundation, and for the first time totalled more than in Pakistan last year.

            A new US drone strike on Thursday killed three Al-Qaeda suspects in the town of Rada in Yemen's central Al-Bayda province, the site of similar recent attacks, tribal sources there said.

            AQAP took advantage of the weakness of Yemen's central government during an uprising in 2011 against now ousted president Ali Abdullah Saleh, seizing large swathes of territory across the south.

            But after a month-long offensive launched in May last year by Yemeni troops, most militants fled to the more lawless desert regions of the east.


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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49567

              #7
              Don't we already have a bunch of drone threads?

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              • BigBadBrian
                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                • Jan 2004
                • 10625

                #8
                Originally posted by ELVIS
                You're a real piece of propaganda believing work...

                And you call yourself a Christian but say "fuck them" regarding civilian casualties ??
                There are no civilians in those border Afghan/Pakistani villages. They're all basically combatants. Women hide weapons for the men up in the mountains so the men are never caught with weapons on them. All they have to do is climb into their prepared position and start plucking away at US Forces. Kids are used to carry ammo and perform reconnaissance. I'm not saying we should deliberately target women and children, but it's hard to feel sorry for a culture that uses their women and children that way.

                Read about the Battle of Wanat, the Battle of Ganjgal, or life at the Korengal Outpost for an in-depth view.

                Here's a few books I've recently read and can recommend:



                Last edited by BigBadBrian; 01-04-2013, 06:55 AM.
                “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                • BigBadBrian
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 10625

                  #9
                  Here's RESTREPO, about a Platoon serving at an outpost in the Korengal (also spelled Korangal) Valley in Kunar Province. Restrepo is the name of a medic who was killed soon after he arrived there and is also a name of one of their sub-outposts, you might say. Watch it if you have the time. It's the video complement to the book WAR in my post above.

                  “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                  • Seshmeister
                    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                    • Oct 2003
                    • 35755

                    #10
                    Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                    There are no civilians in those border Afghan/Pakistani villages. They're all basically combatants. Women hide weapons for the men up in the mountains so the men are never caught with weapons on them. All they have to do is climb into their prepared position and start plucking away at US Forces. Kids are used to carry ammo and perform reconnaissance. I'm not saying we should deliberately target women and children, but it's hard to feel sorry for a culture that uses their women and children that way.

                    Read about the Battle of Wanat, the Battle of Ganjgal, or life at the Korengal Outpost for an in-depth view.

                    Here's a few books I've recently read and can recommend:



                    The first step is ALWAYS to dehumanise the people you want killed...

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                    • BigBadBrian
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10625

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Seshmeister
                      The first step is ALWAYS to dehumanise the people you want killed...
                      Leave it to a punk liberal to mock men and women dying in a war. Typical of Sesh.



                      Seshmeister
                      = PUSSY
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR
                      “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                      • ELVIS
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 44120

                        #12
                        Hitler had propaganda books as well...

                        You might be interested in:

                        Brundibar

                        Rassenkunde des deutschen Volkes

                        Rasse und Seele

                        Der Giftpilz


                        These propaganda books were intended to do exactly what Sesh pointed out, to dehumanize "inferior" races...

                        I'm sure you'll enjoy them, Mr. History buff...

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                        • ELVIS
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 44120

                          #13
                          And here's some real reading from your most beloved Reagan...

                          "Perhaps we didn’t appreciate fully enough the depth of the hatred and the complexity of the problems that made the Middle East such a jungle. Perhaps the idea of a suicide car bomber committing mass murder to gain instant entry to Paradise was so foreign to our own values and consciousness that it did not create in us the concern for the marines’ safety that it should have.

                          In the weeks immediately after the bombing, I believe the last thing that we should do was turn tail and leave. Yet the irrationality of Middle Eastern politics forced us to rethink our policy there. If there would be some rethinking of policy before our men die, we would be a lot better off. If that policy had changed towards more of a neutral position and neutrality, those 241 marines would be alive today."



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                          • ELVIS
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 44120

                            #14
                            Imagine how many soldiers would still be alive today had the US and the British not tried to control the Middle East oil for the last nearly 100 years...

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                            • Satan
                              ROTH ARMY ELITE
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 6664

                              #15
                              Yep, Reagan "cut and run" (as Repukes always call it).

                              He also knew that Social Security had nothing to do with the deficit. How long before Jerksmear calls him a "commie lib"?
                              Eternally Under the Authority of Satan

                              Originally posted by Sockfucker
                              I've been in several mental institutions but not in Bakersfield.

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