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  • Va Beach VH Fan
    ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
    • Dec 2003
    • 17913

    #76
    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    It is all much worse than many people realize. It's not an understatement to say that current pope should be criminally charged on multiple counts, anyone else would have been.

    Absolutely, ALL of the pedophilia cases went to him !!
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    • DLR Bridge
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      • Mar 2011
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      #77
      Originally posted by Seshmeister
      It is all much worse than many people realize.
      Yep...

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      • DLR Bridge
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        • Mar 2011
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        #78

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        • Nickdfresh
          SUPER MODERATOR

          • Oct 2004
          • 49567

          #79
          One has to wonder if the Catholic hierarchy ignoring pederasty was a result of it being a fringe benefit to keep the priesthood filled, as well as a means to maintain power overall through shame and emotional blackmail...

          The thing is, while the Vatican has made it easy to single them out, the truth is that statistically most religions on on par with the Catholic Church as far as clergy molesting children...
          Last edited by Nickdfresh; 02-06-2013, 12:11 PM.

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          • ELVIS
            Banned
            • Dec 2003
            • 44120

            #80
            Is that so, Dickforbrains ??

            One has to wonder what you could possibly think you're proving when you try to pull statistics like that out of your ass...


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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49567

              #81
              Originally posted by ELVIS
              Is that so, Dickforbrains ??

              One has to wonder what you could possibly think you're proving when you try to pull statistics like that out of your ass...


              Oh look, I offended El-dicksuck. Did your pastor diddle you, buddy after too much Jesus-juice™? I heard this on the news a while back. But it's funny to watch fuckstumps like you running around bashing one form of Christianity because "theirs is better!" And you're the first to cry that Christians are being unfairly bashed!

              But here you go, dicklick. From Newsweek originally:

              Mean Men
              Apr 7, 2010 8:00 PM EDT
              The priesthood is being cast as the refuge of pederasts. In fact, priests seem to abuse children at the same rate as everyone else.

              The Catholic sex-abuse stories emerging every day suggest that Catholics have a much bigger problem with child molestation than other denominations and the general population. Many point to peculiarities of the Catholic Church (its celibacy rules for priests, its insular hierarchy, its exclusion of women) to infer that there's something particularly pernicious about Catholic clerics that predisposes them to these horrific acts. It's no wonder that, back in 2002—when the last Catholic sex-abuse scandal was making headlines—a Wall Street Journal-NBC News poll found that 64 percent of those queried thought Catholic priests "frequently'' abused children.

              Yet experts say there's simply no data to support the claim at all. No formal comparative study has ever broken down child sexual abuse by denomination, and only the Catholic Church has released detailed data about its own. But based on the surveys and studies conducted by different denominations over the past 30 years, experts who study child abuse say they see little reason to conclude that sexual abuse is mostly a Catholic issue. "We don't see the Catholic Church as a hotbed of this or a place that has a bigger problem than anyone else," said Ernie Allen, president of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. "I can tell you without hesitation that we have seen cases in many religious settings, from traveling evangelists to mainstream ministers to rabbis and others."

              Since the mid-1980s, insurance companies have offered sexual misconduct coverage as a rider on liability insurance, and their own studies indicate that Catholic churches are not higher risk than other congregations. Insurance companies that cover all denominations, such as Guide One Center for Risk Management, which has more than 40,000 church clients, does not charge Catholic churches higher premiums. "We don't see vast difference in the incidence rate between one denomination and another," says Sarah Buckley, assistant vice president of corporate communications. "It's pretty even across the denominations." It's been that way for decades. While the company saw an uptick in these claims by all types of churches around the time of the 2002 U.S. Catholic sex-abuse scandal, Eric Spacick, Guide One's senior church-risk manager, says "it's been pretty steady since." On average, the company says 80 percent of the sexual misconduct claims they get from all denominations involve sexual abuse of children. As a result, the more children's programs a church has, the more expensive its insurance, officials at Guide One said.

              The only hard data that has been made public by any denomination comes from John Jay College's study of Catholic priests, which was authorized and is being paid for by the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops following the public outcry over the 2002 scandals. Limiting their study to plausible accusations made between 1950 and 1992, John Jay researchers reported that about 4 percent of the 110,000 priests active during those years had been accused of sexual misconduct involving children. Specifically, 4,392 complaints (ranging from "sexual talk" to rape) were made against priests by 10,667 victims. (Reports made after 2002, including those of incidents that occurred years earlier, are released as part of the church's annual audits.)

              Experts disagree on the rate of sexual abuse among the general American male population, but Allen says a conservative estimate is one in 10. Margaret Leland Smith, a researcher at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice, says her review of the numbers indicates it's closer to one in 5. But in either case, the rate of abuse by Catholic priests is not higher than these national estimates. The public also doesn't realize how "profoundly prevalent" child sexual abuse is, adds Smith. Even those numbers may be low; research suggests that only a third of abuse cases are ever reported (making it the most underreported crime). "However you slice it, it's a very common experience," Smith says.

              Most child abusers have one thing in common, and it's not piety—it's preexisting relationships with their victims. That includes priests and ministers and rabbis, of course, but also family members, friends, neighbors, teachers, coaches, scout leaders, youth-group volunteers, and doctors. According to federal studies, three quarters of abuse occurs at the hands of family members or others in the victim's "circle of trust." "The fundamental premise here is that those who abuse children overwhelmingly seek out situations where they have easy and legitimate access to children," he said. "These kinds of positions offer a kind of cover for these offenders."

              Priests may also appear more likely to molest children because cases of abuse come to light in huge waves. One reason is delayed reporting: less than 13 percent of victims abused between 1960 and 1980, for example, lodged a complaint in the same year as the assault. Two thirds filed their complaints after 1992, and half of those were made between 2002 and 2003 alone. "Offenders tend to be manipulative, often persuading children to believe that this is their fault," said Allen. "As a result, the children tend to keep it to themselves. There are countless victims who thought they were the only one." So what looks like high concentrations of abuse may simply reflect long and diffuse patterns of abuse that mirror those among all males.
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              Last edited by Nickdfresh; 02-06-2013, 02:02 PM.

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              • ELVIS
                Banned
                • Dec 2003
                • 44120

                #82
                That says jack shit...

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                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 59648

                  #83
                  I seem to remember ELVIS making a lot of anti-Catholic posts a few years ago. Said Catholics weren't actually Christian, if I remember correctly. Katydoodle had a meltdown over it, which is what made it entertaining.
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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #84
                    That is true...

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                    • Hardrock69
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Feb 2005
                      • 21897

                      #85
                      Stupid.

                      Catholic was THE ORIGINAL Christian church.

                      ALL other Christian denominations are based on Catholicism.

                      Haha.....Nick, if you pissed off Elbow you know you are doing well.

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                      • Hardrock69
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Feb 2005
                        • 21897

                        #86
                        Gee.....wonder why idiot has not come back to give us all a lecture about the Catholic Church based on his "extensive knowledge".

                        Fucking tool.

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49567

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Hardrock69
                          Stupid.

                          Catholic was THE ORIGINAL Christian church.

                          ALL other Christian denominations are based on Catholicism.

                          Haha.....Nick, if you pissed off Elbow you know you are doing well.

                          Elvis is a very angry man, it's not hard to piss him off by telling him his superstition is no less bullshit than the Vatican's...

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                          • jhale667
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 20929

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Hardrock69
                            Gee.....wonder why idiot has not come back to give us all a lecture about the Catholic Church based on his "extensive knowledge".

                            Fucking tool.

                            Because he knows everyone including this recovering Catholic will bitch-slap him on his bullshit, in addition to your previous points. They're all different flavors of the same fucking snake oil, and to kick dirt and scream one is better than another is beyond retarded.
                            Originally posted by conmee
                            If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                            That is all.

                            Icon.
                            Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                            I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                            Originally posted by Isaac R.
                            Then it's really true??

                            The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                            OMFG...who in their right mind...???
                            Originally posted by eddie78
                            I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 59648

                              #89
                              Well, except for the Mormons..... we all know they're full of shit.
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                              • Nitro Express
                                DIAMOND STATUS
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 32942

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Hardrock69
                                Stupid.

                                Catholic was THE ORIGINAL Christian church.

                                ALL other Christian denominations are based on Catholicism.

                                Haha.....Nick, if you pissed off Elbow you know you are doing well.
                                Nope. The Catholic or universal church was founded by Emperor Constantine for political purposes. The christian faith existed before the catholic church. The catholic church is the trunk where the prodestant religions branched off of. So it would be the original church from a prodestant perspective.
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