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  • secrets
    Foot Soldier
    • Apr 2004
    • 587

    We Owe Arabs Nothing

    Express on Sunday, 4th January 2004


    We owe Arabs nothing

    Robert Kilroy-Silk

    WE ARE told by some of the more hysterical critics of the war on terror that "it is destroying the Arab world". So? Should we be worried about that? Shouldn't the destruction of the despotic, barbarous and corrupt Arab states and their replacement by democratic governments be a war aim? After all, the Arab countries are not exactly shining examples of civilisation, are they? Few of them make much contribution to the welfare of the rest of the world. Indeed, apart from oil - which was discovered, is produced and is paid for by the West - what do they contribute? Can you think of anything? Anything really useful? Anything really valuable? Something we really need, could not do without? No, nor can I. Indeed, the Arab countries put together export less than Finland.

    We're told that the Arabs loathe us. Really? For liberating the Iraqis? For subsidising the lifestyles of people in Egypt and Jordan, to name but two, for giving them vast amounts of aid? For providing them with science, medicine, technology and all the other benefits of the West? They should go down on their knees and thank God for the munificence of the United States. What do they think we feel about them? That we adore them for the way they murdered more than 3,000 civilians on September 11 and then danced in the hot, dusty streets to celebrate the murders?

    That we admire them for the cold-blooded killings in Mombasa, Yemen and elsewhere? That we admire them for being suicide bombers, limb-amputators, women repressors? I don't think the Arab states should start a debate about what is really loathsome.

    But why, in any case, should we be concerned that they feel angry and loathe us? The Arab world has not exactly earned our respect, has it? Iran is a vile, terrorist-supporting regime - part of the axis of evil. So is the Saddam Hussein-supporting Syria. So is Libya. Indeed, most of them chant support for Saddam.

    That is to say they support an evil dictator who has gassed hundreds of thousands of their fellow Arabs and tortured and murdered thousands more. How can they do this and expect our respect?

    Why do they imagine that only they can feel anger, call people loathsome? It is the equivalent of all the European nations coming out in support of Hitler the moment he was attacked by the US, because he was European, despite the fact that he was attempting to exterminate the Jews - and Arabs.

    Moreover, the people who claim we are loathsome are currently threatening our civilian populations with chemical and biological weapons. They are promising to let suicide bombers loose in Western and American cities. They are trying to terrorise us, disrupt our lives.
    And then they expect us to be careful of their sensibilities? We have thousands of asylum seekers from Iran, Iraq, Algeria, Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries living happily in this country on social security.

    This shows what their own people think of the Arab regimes, doesn't it? There is not one single British asylum seeker in any Arab country. That says it all about which country deserves the epithet loathsome. GEORGE GALLOWAY, the member of parliament for Baghdad Central, as his tormentors describe him, called the British and American troops "wolves" and called for the Arab countries to rise up and fight them and to cut off oil from the combatants. Later he called upon British troops to refuse to obey "illegal orders".He has, predictably, been vilified. His comments have been termed a disgrace, disgusting, outrageous and so on.

    He has been called a loony, naive, gullible and a traitor. There have been demands that George's constituency party should deselect him, that his constituents should not vote for him at the next general election, and that he should be deported to Iraq. No one, as yet, has demanded that he be put in the stocks or burnt at the stake, though no doubt this will come.
    But why all the fuss? Why is everyone getting into such an excitable lather over the predictable remarks of a no-mark?
    Who with any sense cares an Iraqi dinar for what dear George thinks? Like Clare Short, George is a licensed court jester. He acts the buffoon while she's the straight part of the act, though she exaggerates her sanctimonious seriousness.

    Neither are taken seriously. Both are totally discredited laughing stocks that add to the variety of political life. At least George is open, honest and sincere.

    (c) Copyright Express Newspapers 2004 The Express on Sunday
    Achtung Baby I say, I say...
  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 59648

    #2
    If I were to remove every piece of neocon propaganda from this article, it would be about 2 sentences long. What is this "Express" publication, a British version of NewsHax or the Moonie Times?

    Nevermind, I looked it up. It's a tabloid published by pornographers. Nice journalistic integrity there :D
    Last edited by FORD; 07-20-2004, 04:32 PM.
    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

    Justice Democrats


    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • secrets
      Foot Soldier
      • Apr 2004
      • 587

      #3
      Freedom of speech

      How did I know Ford would like this so much?

      You'll probably be happy to hear that this guy lost his job presenting a TV show because of this article.

      Shame really because he just tells it how it is. Only the powers that be who are left-wing Arab appeasers didn't want to upset a small minority of the community with harsh reality. Shows what a pathetic climate political correctness leads to. Which is basically anyone who is left-wing is an "intellectual" without question and ayone with what is percieved to be right-wing attitude is "ignorant".

      Let the truth be told, however painful it might be.
      Achtung Baby I say, I say...

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 59648

        #4
        Here's the deal:

        Yes Arab governments are oppressive. So are lots of governments all over the world.

        It sucks, but it's reality.

        It's not the job of the United States of America to change the governments of other sovereign nations. Furthermore it is complete hypocrisy when the only nations worthy of such "liberation" are the ones which have a resource that American corporations can steal and make billions from. This is why Republicans hated the intervention in Bosnia. Preventing genocide just isn't profitable. This is why the BCE won't lift a finger to stop the slaughter in the Sudan, but went into Liberia on a moment's notice once Pat Robertson's diamond mine was at risk. This is why Iraq, with the #2 oil reserve on the planet, but with no realistic military capability left at all, was determined a "threat" while the nuclear power (but dirt poor) North Korea was not taken seriously.

        It's a complete fucking lie to say that the BCE gives a shit about oppressed people in other countries when they oppress themselves HERE. Ask any black person in Florida.
        Eat Us And Smile

        Cenk For America 2024!!

        Justice Democrats


        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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        • ELVIS
          Banned
          • Dec 2003
          • 44120

          #5
          Ask any black person in florida ???

          What kind of comparison is that ??

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          • diamondD
            Veteran
            • Jan 2004
            • 1962

            #6
            Ok, I'll bite. Give me a reasonable explanation of why every black in Florida is being oppressed by the ICE.


            I'd love to see one valid comparison to the way people are executed, thrown in plastic shredders, arms and legs chopped off, and otherwise tortured in other countries by their government and how it compares to what our government does to black people in Florida.

            I'm betting you can't.
            Last edited by diamondD; 07-20-2004, 09:55 PM.
            Meet us in the future, not the pasture

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            • ELVIS
              Banned
              • Dec 2003
              • 44120

              #7
              Have you ever been to Florida, FORD ??

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              • Mr Grimsdale
                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                • Jan 2004
                • 9510

                #8
                The best bit is Robbo joined the UK Independence Party and yesterday one of their Members of the European Parliament was put on the council for women or something. Anyway this guy comes out with the line "no sensible small businessman would employ a woman of child bearing age" and followed it with "a lot of women fail to clean behind the fridge properly".

                Fookin' ace. Gets my vote. Now if only he does something about all the darkies, yids, spics, wops, wogs, coolies, chinks, goons, nignogs and pakis.
                Last edited by Mr Grimsdale; 07-21-2004, 07:26 AM.
                Originally posted by flappo
                i'm sure grimsdale's on drugs

                Originally posted by Cato
                translating your Japanese.


                "Master Cato is...I order, it's yours. don't ask me to do gay material for the life of me because you kick my bat."

                omae baka dana?

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                • secrets
                  Foot Soldier
                  • Apr 2004
                  • 587

                  #9
                  So if someone is a chauvinist that automatically makes them a racist?
                  Is that what you are implying? You're probably right actually.
                  Achtung Baby I say, I say...

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                  • FORD
                    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                    • Jan 2004
                    • 59648

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ELVIS
                    Have you ever been to Florida, FORD ??
                    No, and I have no intention of doing so as long as the state is under control of the BCE.

                    That doesn't mean I don't know the facts of how African Americans were stripped from the voter rolls by the thousands, and how others were physically prevented from voting on election day 2000.
                    Eat Us And Smile

                    Cenk For America 2024!!

                    Justice Democrats


                    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                    • Seshmeister
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Oct 2003
                      • 35755

                      #11
                      Originally posted by secrets
                      So if someone is a chauvinist that automatically makes them a racist?
                      Is that what you are implying? You're probably right actually.
                      That's not true.

                      I'm a hardcore extreme chauvinist but hardly racist at all.

                      I'm still less chauvinist than most women are against guys on daytime TV though.

                      Cheers!

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                      • secrets
                        Foot Soldier
                        • Apr 2004
                        • 587

                        #12
                        Hey don't worry about it I was just being sarcastic.
                        Achtung Baby I say, I say...

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                        • Seshmeister
                          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                          • Oct 2003
                          • 35755

                          #13
                          Sorry I forgot my smiley :D too

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                          • BigBadBrian
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 10625

                            #14
                            Originally posted by FORD
                            No, and I have no intention of doing so as long as the state is under control of the BCE.

                            That doesn't mean I don't know the facts of how African Americans were stripped from the voter rolls by the thousands, and how others were physically prevented from voting on election day 2000.
                            Bullshit.
                            “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                            • secrets
                              Foot Soldier
                              • Apr 2004
                              • 587

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Seshmeister

                              I'm a hardcore extreme chauvinist but hardly racist at all.

                              I love that, "hardly".

                              :D
                              Achtung Baby I say, I say...

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