Seven million will lose insurance under Obombacare

[ELVIS]

President Obama's health care law will push 7 million people out of their job-based insurance coverage — nearly twice the previous estimate, according to the latest estimates from the Congressional Budget Office released Tuesday.

CBO said that this year's tax cuts have changed the incentives for businesses and made it less attractive to pay for insurance, meaning fewer will decide to do so. Instead, they'll choose to pay a penalty to the government, totaling $13 billion in higher fees over the next decade.

But the non-partisan agency also expects fewer people to have to pay individual penalties to the IRS than it earlier projects, because of a better method for calculating incomes that found more people will be exempt.

Overall, the new health provisions are expected to cost the government $1.165 trillion over the next decade — the same as last year's projection.

With other spending cuts and tax increases called for in the health law, though, CBO still says Mr. Obama's signature achievement will reduce budget deficits in the short term.

During the health care debate Mr. Obama had said individuals would be able to keep their plans.

[Satan]

Why don't you mortals just put an end to all this dragonshit and just do the logical thing, with a medicare single payer for all system?

Healthcare should never be dependent on employment.

[SunisinuS]

I expect a full year of fear mongering and such....then Faux News will roll out "The lines for health care at hospitals around America" ect ect....then about 7 months in....boom...ooops..... just in time for 2016. Will be much rejoicing.

[jhale667]

Why don't you mortals just put an end to all this dragonshit and just do the logical thing, with a medicare single payer for all system?

Healthcare should never be dependent on employment.

[Nitro Express]

We have to pass it so you can see what's in it. Enjoy suckers!

[SunisinuS]

Yea, only problem is that I have lived in countries that have it.... /shrug. Americans like to believe the biggest mouth pointing the other directing and guiding you by fear (I know...I am one), but proof is in the pudding...and even in Spain I got great healthcare without goofy US ruin your life rules. My bro was a doctor...me mum a nurse....and I worked in Insurance for a decade....so you can believe Rush...or you can believe the rest of the signers of the 1948 bill of rights. /shrug.

You don't want to pay for your Grandma falling down....either here or in Europe you will.....well...in the US...I as a taxpayer will pay for her emergency room visit (3k-9k plus) or a visit with a doctor who gives her a walker instead (1k).

Fools who think that the US system of healthcare benefit anyone but the healthcare system.....have a nother think(g) coming.

And Nitro...I remember thinking the conventional wisdom if this was all politics on Obama's part (wow....why wait until 2014 to GIVE PEOPLE "Stuff"?) was for the very REASON it needed to be thought about, find the problems, hook up the horses correctly, and allow the critics to find the problems.

To be honest...I think the Affordable Care Act was a quintessentially American nod to the best part of the Health Care System in the US (research and clinic trials) and the ability to have the market "feed" the basics of a God Damn sprained wrist. There IS NO GOVERMENT HEALTHCARE even after the Affordable Care Act.

Only House members and Senators given the best, and the GI given the boot....that is it is now. They should share no?

[vh rides again]

Yep
The average American will be fined about 98 bucks and a business owner 4000 bucks if they don't carry it.

With the current laws, all you will have to do is go get insurance when you get sick, they can't turn ya down.

Insurance companies will go broke within 5 years .

[SunisinuS]

Yep
The average American will be fined about 98 bucks and a business owner 4000 bucks if they don't carry it.

With the current laws, all you will have to do is go get insurance when you get sick, they can't turn ya down.

Insurance companies will go broke within 5 years .

Sorry...you are no Actuary. I did Insurance for 10 years and was honorably discharged.

You need a little math in your life to be in the biz.

I will consider any bet you make about the results.

Math is Fundamental.*

Follow the Footnote and answer the question please.

[vh rides again]

Sorry...you are no Actuary. I did Insurance for 10 years and was honorably discharged.

You need a little math in your life to be in the biz.

I will consider any bet you make about the results.

Math is Fundamental.*

Follow the Footnote and answer the question please.

I've owned my own business for 20 years.
My lawyer has read the laws regarding obamacare this last week and has told me where I stand.

When you and all your legal aids get done reading what was just released last week, get back to me.

Cause

You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.

You don't own anything I would want in a bet.

[SunisinuS]

I've owned my own business for 20 years.
My lawyer has read the laws regarding obamacare this last week and has told me where I stand.

When you and all your legal aids get done reading what was just released last week, get back to me.

Cause

You don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.

You don't own anything I would want in a bet.*

I was in the business of Grocery Repair for twenty years so I would not know anything about being in the Insurance Business for ten. And BTW my other brother was an attorney....so every summer I used to "volunteer" to work going through ream after ream of divorce proceedings and other cases.

Ask any of your attorneys if they were in the Insurance Business.

So who's ass is in the ground now?

Again...any prognastification you want to make about how this shakes out....I am your Huckleberry.


Better batten down the hatches in beateeing off Iowa....as everyday down here is a rainy day...we don't save up.

This thread will not survive even 12 months...and then 16 months will roll around and I want you to try and find this again....as about then....CNN will post another "Distraction...cute Grandma walks down the street without falling down...all without selling her home or catering to her dickhead Plutocrat children or the TaxMan".

Btw again? "Insurance companies (whoever they are) will go broke in 5 years". You will not take a bet on your own words?

Close up Shop then. We do not need you. If you are not a person of your own words then, let life be passed to those that are.

[Nitro Express]

I think the Unaffordable Care and Screw the Patient Act will hit the skids. Like prohibition it's bad legislation. It was just rammed through as quick as possible and people did not know what they were getting. It was sold with a shit load of lies. Now it's going to bite into people's pocketbooks and the quality of the care will go down and people won't appreciate the intrusive meddling. It's just another scam.

You have to love paying a unsales tax. A tax on buying nothing. It's absurd. According the IRS the cheapest health plan for a family is around $20,000 a year. It probably doesn't cover shit. Then of course there will be political favoritism with the politically connected getting exemptions from the so called tax.

[ELVIS]

And the drone strikes for those who refuse to pay...

[ZahZoo]

I was in the business of Grocery Repair for twenty years so I would not know anything about being in the Insurance Business for ten.

Grocery Repair..? WTF?

Did you patch bruised bananas or were you in the body shop pounding out dented soup cans?

[Nickdfresh]

And the drone strikes for those who refuse to pay...

And bullshit hyperbole from conspiracy theorists...

Consider the source of this article, coming from the Moonie Times...

[ELVIS]

The "source" is the CBO, Dickforbrains...