Fuck The American Dream Before It Fucks You

[Kristy]

So what places are people leaving?

(1) New Jersey
(2) Illinois
(3) West Virginia
(4) New York
(5) New Mexico
(6) Michigan
(7) Maine
(8) Connecticut
(9) Kentucky
(10) Wisconsin

On that list I see a lot of left-leaning states where the economies are in ruin and the people (evidently) are tired of a bunch of fascists telling them what size fucking sodas they can buy.

Well New York does have one crazy mayor. Problem is many of those assholes from those states are moving here bringing their shitty fucking attitudes with them. The majority come from Wisconsin and New England tagging along their even F A T T E R children. Pussy whiners all of them - from the snow to the altitude which really isn't a big deal at all. Then they cut down all the pines build their shit ticky-tacky track housing homes and wonder why they burn the fuck down in summer droughts. This state used so be so nice, now it's just another empty strip mall suburban decay eyesore full of assholes in SUV's and Eddie Bauer clothing. Soon they'll rape what's left of Idaho and Washington State.

[Nitro Express]

Debit cards work fine here.

I don't think you could rent a car with one. They basically want a line of credit they can charge as collateral against the car. That used to be the thinking when I was a rental agent many moons ago. We would not rent a car for cash. We wanted access to a line of credit as collateral.

[Nitro Express]

Well New York does have one crazy mayor. Problem is many of those assholes from those states are moving here bringing their shitty fucking attitudes with them. The majority come from Wisconsin and New England tagging along their even F A T T E R children. Pussy whiners all of them - from the snow to the altitude which really isn't a big deal at all. Then they cut down all the pines build their shit ticky-tacky track housing homes and wonder why they burn the fuck down in summer droughts. This state used so be so nice, now it's just another empty strip mall suburban decay eyesore full of assholes in SUV's and Eddie Bauer clothing. Soon they'll rape what's left of Idaho and Washington State.

Most my neighbors are California move ins. I have no problem. All are good people and I get along fine with them. Some still keep a condo in Cali. One was nice enough to let us use their place on Coronado. One is a graphics art designer. He can do all his work here in Wyoming and has a big studio in his home.

[Nitro Express]

One of my possible futures involves moving to the NW. Which will involve driving over the Rockies. Though I am not really worried about blowing anything up....just minor shit like the thin air fucking with the air/fuel ratio. Have had to deal with that crap before in Colorado when driving FROM the NW to the midwest about 35 years ago....

It's really not a problem until you get over 8,000 feet. Above that I have to increase the octane in the gas or the engine will ping pulling a grade. Jackson Hole literally is in a hole. The only way to get in here is through mountain passes and that can be plenty of fun in the winter. The main road that comes up here from the south got covered by a landslide a few years back. Then there is Yellowstone Park to the north which takes forever to get through because of all the tourist traffic and slow speed limits. When I have to go up to Montana I'm always debating whether to fuss with going through the park or going over Teton Pass, into Idaho and go up that way.

The best way to get to the northwest from where you are is just take I-80 west and then take highway 30 out of Wyoming into Idaho and then hit I-15. This is the way the Union Pacific runs to the northwest so there are no steep grades. You can then get on I-84 and hit Oregon and Washington that way. No big grades to pull. The biggest one will be the blue mountains in Oregon. It's basically the old Oregon trail route. They pulled the wagons where the grade was the easiest and the railroad just followed it later and then they built the roads.

[Angel]

It's really not a problem until you get over 8,000 feet. Above that I have to increase the octane in the gas or the engine will ping pulling a grade. Jackson Hole literally is in a hole. The only way to get in here is through mountain passes and that can be plenty of fun in the winter. The main road that comes up here from the south got covered by a landslide a few years back. Then there is Yellowstone Park to the north which takes forever to get through because of all the tourist traffic and slow speed limits. When I have to go up to Montana I'm always debating whether to fuss with going through the park or going over Teton Pass, into Idaho and go up that way.

The best way to get to the northwest from where you are is just take I-80 west and then take highway 30 out of Wyoming into Idaho and then hit I-15. This is the way the Union Pacific runs to the northwest so there are no steep grades. You can then get on I-84 and hit Oregon and Washington that way. No big grades to pull. The biggest one will be the blue mountains in Oregon. It's basically the old Oregon trail route. They pulled the wagons where the grade was the easiest and the railroad just followed it later and then they built the roads.

Hmmmm...never had any problems in the mountains, but our gas has higher octane levels.

[ZahZoo]

I don't think you could rent a car with one. They basically want a line of credit they can charge as collateral against the car. That used to be the thinking when I was a rental agent many moons ago. We would not rent a car for cash. We wanted access to a line of credit as collateral.

I've rented cars and U-haul trucks several times with just a debit card. No questions asked or even any concerns mentioned. Had several times where we've made hotel reservations with a debit card and then paid cash at check-in and let them scan the debit card for incidentals.

Another alternative is an American Express card... the traditional one isn't really a credit card as there's no interest charges as long as you pay it fully each cycle.

[jhale667]

I don't think you could rent a car with one. They basically want a line of credit they can charge as collateral against the car. That used to be the thinking when I was a rental agent many moons ago. We would not rent a car for cash. We wanted access to a line of credit as collateral.

Uh YES YOU CAN.

[Nitro Express]

Oh God I'm the American dream. I'm going to get a good job and get real rich because I'm a handsome son of a bitch...

[Kristy]