25 disturbing facts about psych drugs, soldiers and suicides

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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 59642

    #16
    I can say from personal experience that the two most effective anti-depressants are 5-HTP and Vitamin D. I wouldn't touch the pharma poisons for any amount of money.

    But to say they are the single cause for a soldier/veteran to snap and kill themselves and/or others, that seems like a ridiculous conclusion to jump to, deliberately ignoring any other factors in that person's life. Not the least of which would be having to see shit that nobody should ever have to see, and see it often, in some cases.
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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49567

      #17
      Originally posted by ELVIS
      Go take some Big Pharma poison...
      Go take some bullshit snake oil from a charlatan cunt...

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      • ELVIS
        Banned
        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        #18
        Originally posted by FORD

        But to say they are the single cause
        No one said that...

        But there is a problem...

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        • Zing!
          Veteran
          • Oct 2011
          • 2363

          #19
          Originally posted by FORD
          I can say from personal experience that the two most effective anti-depressants are 5-HTP and Vitamin D. I wouldn't touch the pharma poisons for any amount of money..
          Up here in the Northstar state it pays to up your dosage of D in the winter months. I guarantee it works on depression and I've found it to be just as useful as C for keeping away the various flu and cold bugs that make the rounds.
          My karma just ran over your dogma.

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          • Angel
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Jan 2004
            • 7481

            #20
            Originally posted by Zing!
            Up here in the Northstar state it pays to up your dosage of D in the winter months. I guarantee it works on depression and I've found it to be just as useful as C for keeping away the various flu and cold bugs that make the rounds.
            D has made a HUGE difference for me. My levels were extremely low. A deficiency is less than 50 and mine were at 30. Took a few months to get them up to healthy levels, but now those dark circles under my eyes are almost gone.

            I suffered from depression for YEARS, and I'm certain the vitamin D had a lot to do with it.
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            • BITEYOASS
              ROTH ARMY ELITE
              • Jan 2004
              • 6530

              #21
              Originally posted by Angel
              I never get drunk anymore. I am about to smoke some weed though. Wanna join me?
              Got space weed?

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              • hideyoursheep
                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                • Jan 2007
                • 6351

                #22
                Many of these guys are getting misdiagnosed during their "drive-thru" evaluations....that are more than likely "back-door" sponsored by companies like Pfizer.

                I can't help thinking that there are vets coming home that needed more help than a prescription alone can give them, and they aren't getting it.


                At the same time, there might be some that got the wrong prescription, which could actually trigger a worse reaction.


                And then there are those who weren't wired right before enlisting....


                Too many variables to accurately stamp everything with PTSD.

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                • ELVIS
                  Banned
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 44120

                  #23
                  Originally posted by hideyoursheep

                  I can't help thinking that there are vets coming home that needed more help than a prescription alone can give them, and they aren't getting it.
                  And they're not going to get unless they get lucky and stumble on a VA Physician that actually has time to care...

                  The Healthcare system is fucked and it's about to get much worse for everyone...

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                  • envy_me
                    Swedish Love Pump
                    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 7180

                    #24
                    I have no idea if anything in this article is true or who the source is, but let's just for the sake of argument say that it is.

                    Have they looked at other depressed groups of people and compared their suicide rate compared to veterans. Maybe there are other things that are making veterans suicidal more then an average antidep user.

                    Also about the claim that more veterans die of suicide then in battle; How long is a person in a battle? Like couple of years? Maybe less. While they have their whole life to be veterans. So let's say 4 years (just guessing on the time here) verses 60-70 years of being a veteran.
                    The heart is on the left. The blood is red.

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