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  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    #16
    Originally posted by binnie
    Exactly. We all - or, most of us - share the same sense of moral outrage at the taxation practices of these groups and the fact that our governments won't do anything about it. But we don't move from observing that immoral behaviour to assuming that there is a world-wide conspiracy.

    Same building blocks, different structure. What one sees as proof of almost super-human malevolence/organisation, the other sees as proof of an inability to act (as result of ineptitude on the part of politicians, and a world driven by the stock market on the part of business).
    No fucking way is it that benign...

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    • Kristy
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 16751

      #17
      Originally posted by ELVIS
      Jone$ did nothing but act professional in that clip and he was armed with facts, as always....
      Wow. Why don't you just go over to his house and blow him?

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      • binnie
        DIAMOND STATUS
        • May 2006
        • 19145

        #18
        Originally posted by ELVIS
        THEY DO FUCKING RUN THE WORLD !!

        IT'S NOT A SECRET !!

        ...
        They are certainly immoral, incredibly self-interested, and prepared to use the logic of capitalists systems to make as much money as possible, but is that controlling the world?

        If they really wanted to control the world (and subvert freedoms) why would they let us have this conversation across the internet? Why would they allow programmes like Jones (or equivalent) to air?
        The Power Of The Riff Compels Me

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        • binnie
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • May 2006
          • 19145

          #19
          Originally posted by ELVIS
          No fucking way is it that benign...
          I didn't say it was benign. There is a difference between 'they're all secretly huddling together to fuck the rest of us' and 'our politicians are too timid - or too stupid - to put legislation in place which prevents some corportations from becoming too powerful. Some of this is due to the global economy expanding at a pace which moves more quickly than international law (thus making effective legislation difficult to pass), and some of it is down to incompetence'.

          One explanation is a conspiracy; the other is pragmatic. Both see immorality, and is outraged by it.
          The Power Of The Riff Compels Me

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          • ELVIS
            Banned
            • Dec 2003
            • 44120

            #20
            Originally posted by binnie

            If they really wanted to control the world (and subvert freedoms) why would they let us have this conversation across the internet? Why would they allow programmes like Jones (or equivalent) to air?
            I dunno, but it's happening at ever increasing increments, and the dumb people around the world are letting it happen...

            Most young people are already hook line and sinker in a technocratic grid that they don't even seem to notice, like it was there forever...

            So it's going to be easy for a huge lot of people to be digitally corralled, IMO...

            And as far as Jones, he's on the right track but he doesn't have it all figured out and they let him talk...

            But just glimpse into Kissinger and Gates regarding their "global ambitions."

            This stuff is scary...

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            • ELVIS
              Banned
              • Dec 2003
              • 44120

              #21
              Originally posted by binnie

              One explanation is a conspiracy; the other is pragmatic. Both see immorality, and is outraged by it.
              I don't like the idea of huge back door meetings where deals are made on a world scale that effect you and me and profit someone else...

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              • binnie
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • May 2006
                • 19145

                #22
                Originally posted by ELVIS
                I don't like the idea of huge back door meetings where deals are made on a world scale that effect you and me and profit someone else...
                Isn't that the nature of ANY government, in any form? Don't all governments have non-public meetings to some extent?

                In an ideal form, everything would be public - but is that logistically possible?

                And if we're talking about private firms, is it right to ask them to do everything publically? Wouldn't that infringe on their rights (as they are private entities) thus undermining the freedoms we cherish? And wouldn't the state have to be involved in that process (thus awarding it more power?)
                The Power Of The Riff Compels Me

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                • Nitro Express
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 32942

                  #23
                  The thing is, we know who the bad guys are and we know what their overall game plan is. Basically it's the western bankers who sit on the central banking boards. That's who has the power. Now what are we going to do about it? Standing outside the hotel where The Bilderberg Group is meeting doesn't fix a thing. We all know Bilderberg is who set up the EU and they have plans to organize the world into trade unions and consolidate the world's currencies down to about three or four currencies. They have all these exotic plans but frankly they only accomplished it in Europe. The North American Union failed because the Asians didn't want to trade their US Dollars for Ameros.

                  There seems to be a showdown between the western bankers and the new rising asian establishment. The Chinese nationalists have infiltrated back into China and you can see it with all the Taiwanese owned factories there. The old communist guard ran by the western oligarchs is dying off. So basically we have to free north America and Europe from these old crusty bastards and it's game over. The only real power they hold in the world is the United States and that is why they are clamping down here. They want that US Dollar and they want the military machine. It's all they care about, there rest of the country and people can rot away for all they care.

                  My main concern is these bastards don't set off the middle east powder keg to stir the pot. If that happens you will have martial law in the US and military action in the middle east. Russia will react and China might jump in. It will be one biblical scale mess. The mother of all bar brawls with some greedy old fucks trying to take advantage of the situation.
                  Last edited by Nitro Express; 06-06-2013, 03:17 PM.
                  No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32942

                    #24
                    Originally posted by binnie
                    Isn't that the nature of ANY government, in any form? Don't all governments have non-public meetings to some extent?

                    In an ideal form, everything would be public - but is that logistically possible?

                    And if we're talking about private firms, is it right to ask them to do everything publically? Wouldn't that infringe on their rights (as they are private entities) thus undermining the freedoms we cherish? And wouldn't the state have to be involved in that process (thus awarding it more power?)
                    The Bilderberg Group is not a government group. It's a think tank that was organized by the Dutch royal family. They have the legal right to have secret meetings but if US politicians meet in secret at such meetings its in violation of the Logan Act. Also, the Swiss police raided the Bilderberg meeting in Switzerland because one of their official was breaking the law by attending and when a Swiss official showed up to investigate the allegations, Bilderberg security roughed the guy up.

                    Sure, government officials can meet in secret government meetings but not secret private meetings. There is a difference.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Nitro Express
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 32942

                      #25
                      Alex Jones to me is an opportunist. I now Joel Skousen who frequents his show. He's basically a home builder who builds high end homes with all sorts of security features for rich customers. His son writes survival books. Some of the info is factual and I have had people in the know tell me some of it is BS. He has Gerald Celente on a lot. I met him once. He seems like a nice man and even gave me a year subscription to the Trends Journal for a year for free. He does a fabulous job of putting that together but he's out to make money and his financial advice is not very good. Then Alex has that hack Max Keiser on who told everyone to buy silver before silver tanked and then told people to run to Bit Coin and Bit Coin tanked. If you criticize Max his ugly girlfriend comes after you. LOL!

                      The bottom line is Alex Jones has made a couple million dollars off the internet. End of story.
                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • ELVIS
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 44120

                        #26
                        It costs Alex Jones between six and seven million dollars per year to run his operation...

                        And he claims to have paid himself nothing this year...

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                        • Seshmeister
                          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                          • Oct 2003
                          • 35764

                          #27
                          Last edited by Seshmeister; 06-06-2013, 04:18 PM.

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                          • ELVIS
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 44120

                            #28
                            BTW Sesh...

                            has the State assigned you a nanny yet ??

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                            • FORD
                              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                              • Jan 2004
                              • 59656

                              #29
                              Originally posted by vandeleur
                              wants commited ?
                              Eat Us And Smile

                              Cenk For America 2024!!

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                              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                              • Nitro Express
                                DIAMOND STATUS
                                • Aug 2004
                                • 32942

                                #30
                                Originally posted by ELVIS
                                It costs Alex Jones between six and seven million dollars per year to run his operation...

                                And he claims to have paid himself nothing this year...
                                You are his accountant? He can say anything. Alex Jones is an actor. He puts on a show. It's conspiracy pro wrestling. In reality, he's been blowing his load for years and has anything changed? Nope. The tyranny rolls forth. Buying an Infowars T Shirt and some vitamin mix and a water filter doesn't change a thing. Unless you persuade your representatives in Washington to change the agency government nothing changes. Power is either political or from the business end of a gun and that's it.
                                Last edited by Nitro Express; 06-06-2013, 11:45 PM.
                                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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