U.S. Appeals Court kills net neutrality

[FORD]

The corporatists are trying to seize control of ALL public infrastructure. This bullshit with the freeway in Florida, for example. Charter schools being another. All the privatization of the military that took place under Chimp & Cheney (and continued to some extent under Obama, unfortunately) And obviously, the so-called "Affordable Care Act" which wasn't about universal health care as much as it was ensuring the private insurance industry survived the baby boomers leaving it for Medicare.

All of it having a common thread - greedy corporations making money off of what Thomas Jefferson and his pals would have called "the commons". Meaning that which should belong to the people.

[FORD]

Sucks in your area and I feel for you - locally I have about 5 different providers I can choose from, between uverse/fios/cable/dsl/dish. I would prefer an a-la-carte selection for TV but to be honest, I can consume a lot of shows on tv however I want, and don't have to do the TV bundle with fios. I can buy them on xbox live, watch them on netflix, amazon prime, buy seasons on bluray, get them from the local library, borrower dvds from friends, and several more options.

Hardly a monopoly.

I guess the real question is why does a progressive state like yours have these problems while a backwards, conservative state/area like mine not? I don't get it.

That is a damn good question. The easiest answer is that the state isn't nearly as progressive as you might think. East of the mountains, it might as well be Texas (or any other red state). And even west of the mountains, apart from the immediate Puget Sound area, it's not a Liberal paradise either. Thankfully, this is where the majority of the population is, so that's why things like weed and weddings pass the ballot measures. Sadly our state "Democratic" party is only slightly less DLC than the national, and though we haven't had a Republican governor since 1984, we haven't had a liberal governor since 1996

[Dr. Love]

I'm not sure TV shows fall into that area. You might make the case for the internet being in that area but realistically you do have choices beyond just cable for internet. Do you guys not have LTE? Can you not get a hotspot?

[Nickdfresh]

Sucks in your area and I feel for you - locally I have about 5 different providers I can choose from, between uverse/fios/cable/dsl/dish. I would prefer an a-la-carte selection for TV but to be honest, I can consume a lot of shows on tv however I want, and don't have to do the TV bundle with fios. I can buy them on xbox live, watch them on netflix, amazon prime, buy seasons on bluray, get them from the local library, borrower dvds from friends, and several more options.

Hardly a monopoly.

I guess the real question is why does a progressive state like yours have these problems while a backwards, conservative state/area like mine not? I don't get it.

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/oligopoly.asp

[Nickdfresh]

So, how would you like your web packaged?

[fraroc]

So, how would you like your web packaged?

FAUX ain't worth shit.

[FORD]

I'm not sure TV shows fall into that area. You might make the case for the internet being in that area but realistically you do have choices beyond just cable for internet. Do you guys not have LTE? Can you not get a hotspot?

DSL here is limited to 1.5 mbps. Verizon's LTE claims to have full coverage in my neighborhood, but I don't know of anyone who has been able to use it as of yet. ClearWire never made it this far south, although they did apparently go to Aberdeen, which makes no fucking sense at all. The other wireless carriers might work right on the I-5 corridor, if you're lucky.

So in other words, there's no practical option, other than Scumcast.

[Redballjets88]

There are options. And as you've pointed out bad things MIGHT happen, and they MAY hurt people...at Whig point we will deal with it as a free society with laws and justice. Til then let things play out. We've already discussed the various other options available.


Now don't get me started on what I can do with my Internet cables and what I can charge for its use.

In the end liberty should be paramount.

[Redballjets88]

Sorry I'm typing on my iphone so replies may get fucked up

[FORD]

So you want to wait until AFTER the corporations fuck everybody over, and THEN do something about it?

How well did that work in West, Texas?

How well did that work in West Virginia?

Or Plaster Rock, Canada? Seems the last deadly oil industry caused train explosion wasn't enough for Stevie Harper to take notice, so now they have another one?

Point is, you wait for corporations to fuck you over and THEN regulate them like they should have been regulated in the first goddamned place, guess what? You'll never get that genie back in the goddamned bottle. The better course of action was to never open the bottle to begin with.

Wall Street being the obvious example.... as long as Glass Steagal was in effect, they couldn't turn the national economy into a giant casino with them betting on all sides to make sure they won, win or lose (and most of us definitely lost)

[Nitro Express]

Whomever did the "research" for these hack judges is either a fucking idiot, or a goddamned liar (or both).

90% of the US has NO choice in broadband providers. A small percentage of others have the "choice" of cable broadband and DSL which is barely faster than dial-up, and completely unsuitable for any sort of audio or video streaming.

There are two agendas which benefit from this dragonshit. Greed being the most obvious. Censoring liberal information in favor of corporate backed right wing propaganda is the other.

We need to get some hot ho's and get these judges into incriminating positions and start blackmailing them to get our way. I think this is how the world really runs.

[Angel]

Or Plaster Rock, Canada? Seems the last deadly oil industry caused train explosion wasn't enough for Stevie Harper to take notice, so now they have

How can Harper notice anything? He's too busy sucking Netanyahu's dick.

I can't believe how many tanker cars go through here now. Gives me the willies when I get stuck at a crossing. I didn't see one grain car last summer. Our farmers can't get their grain shipped because the rich oil bastards have all the trains...grrr...

[FORD]

How can Harper notice anything? He's too busy sucking Netanyahu's dick.

I can't believe how many tanker cars go through here now. Gives me the willies when I get stuck at a crossing. I didn't see one grain car last summer. Our farmers can't get their grain shipped because the rich oil bastards have all the trains...grrr...

I don't have cable TV anymore, so I don't see much of CBC news. Was there any sort of public outrage up there after that horrible train wreck last year? Or after this more recent one?

[Angel]

I don't have cable TV anymore, so I don't see much of CBC news. Was there any sort of public outrage up there after that horrible train wreck last year? Or after this more recent one?

Not enough. We've got so much shit going on with Senate scandals, pipelines, veteran suicides, First Nation issues, election fraud...fuck, I could go on forever. Stephen Harper's Canada is not the country you used to show so much respect for.

[Nickdfresh]

There are options. And as you've pointed out bad things MIGHT happen, and they MAY hurt people...at Whig point we will deal with it as a free society with laws and justice. Til then let things play out. We've already discussed the various other options available.


Now don't get me started on what I can do with my Internet cables and what I can charge for its use.

In the end liberty should be paramount.

That's sort of retarded. What "liberty" is there in companies carving up the internet they never really invented or developed anyways and seizing largely open-sourced technologies....

In essence, you're saying the gov't should allow monopolies, because monopolies probably won't abuse their power: it's only a possibility. Really?