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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35777

    Phelps excommunicated and dying



    Fred Phelps, Founder of the ‘God Hates Fags’ Westboro Baptist Church, is on the ‘Edge of Death’


    March 15, 2014 By Hemant Mehta 130 Comments


    You know Fred Phelps. You loathe Fred Phelps. You despise everything he stands for, like his family members’ infamous protests at soldiers’ funerals with their awful “God Hates Fags” signs. They’ve been a symbol for many years of the religion-based animosity against the LGBT community — to the point that they’ve been labeled a “hate group” and even the most fundamentalist Christian groups denounce his church’s activities.




    Nate Phelps is Fred’s son and a former member of Westboro Baptist Church. He left the church, and therefore the core of the family, in 1976 when he was 18 years olds and has since come out as an atheist, but he still keeps in touch with some of his extended family members, many of whom have also escaped from the church.

    I just got off the phone with Nate and he confirmed what he had written. The rumors had been flying for several weeks, he said, but after a conversation with some of his fellow “excommunicated” family members, he found out that the rumors were true. He elaborated on that final line, too, saying that the Phelps family is now blocking anyone who is no longer with the church from seeing him, including Fred’s sons, daughters, nieces, and nephews.

    Why was he kicked out of his own church? Did he have a change of heart near the end of his life? There’s no definitive answer to that and Nate has heard different things (so any explanation is pure speculation right now).

    In any case, it appears that Fred Phelps doesn’t have much longer to live. While some may rejoice at that, Nate’s tone over the phone was anything but happy. He’s losing his father. A father who dedicated his life to spreading hatred and made the lives of so many others so miserable, but a father nonetheless.

    What will become of Westboro without him? While I would like to say it’ll disappear entirely, that’s unlikely, at least in the short term. My guess is that Fred Phelps, mostly due to his age (he’s 84), hasn’t been an integral part of the church’s activities for quite some time. Those responsibilities have long been delegated to other members of the church, mostly to daughter Shirley Phelps-Roper. But without the founding figurehead in place, we can at least hope Westboro becomes less relevant and eventually obsolete.

    If there’s any solace to be found in this story, it’s that many of Fred’s thirteen children and extended family members have escaped from his indoctrination — 20 of them have fled since 2004, according to one report, with three-quarters of them under the age of 30. It’s uplifting, in a way, to realize that even people who grow up under the most vile of belief systems can end up respectable and tolerant and kind and wonderful.

    Indeed, several of those former church members, including Nate, are LGBT-rights activists.

    As of now, there’s no mention of Fred Phelps’ condition on his church’s site, blog, or Twitter feed.
    In the meantime, we’re all left debating whether it’d make a larger statement to picket his eventual funeral or ignore it and turn the other cheek.
  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35777

    #2
    It seems pretty clear that before going in a box Fred finally come out the closet.

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    • fraroc
      Commando
      • Jun 2012
      • 1172

      #3
      Oh FUCK YES!! I've been waiting for this day to come.

      Do your fucking worst, Satan!
      How do you spell pretentious? S-A-M-M-Y H-A-G-A-R

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      • Nickdfresh
        SUPER MODERATOR

        • Oct 2004
        • 49572

        #4
        This is of course God's way of saying gays are alright. I hope they have a massive pride parade at his funeral...

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 59661

          #5
          I hope Satan makes him Liberace's roommate.

          Of course, that would probably torment Liberace as much as it does Phelps, but it IS Hell, after all......
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 59661

            #6
            I suppose the real question here is.....

            How did the old bastard get excommunicated from his own cult?????
            Eat Us And Smile

            Cenk For America 2024!!

            Justice Democrats


            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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            • fraroc
              Commando
              • Jun 2012
              • 1172

              #7
              Originally posted by Nickdfresh
              This is of course God's way of saying gays are alright. I hope they have a massive pride parade at his funeral...
              I hope that a huge fucking all-male orgy takes place upon his grave site
              How do you spell pretentious? S-A-M-M-Y H-A-G-A-R

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              • binnie
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • May 2006
                • 19145

                #8
                I hate to give these guys any more of the oxygen of publicity, but I'll say this: I loathe eveything about Phelps' views and the organization which he founded, but I'll not stoop to his level by mocking a human being who is suffering.

                I don't believe that there is an afterlife, but if there is I hope that Phelps finds the peace there that he clearly couldn't find on earth. I also hope that his 'Church' flounders in the absence of his leadership.
                The Power Of The Riff Compels Me

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                • FORD
                  ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 59661

                  #9
                  Sadly, I think his demented daughter, Shirley Phelps-Roper has pretty much taken over the cult already (and even more so if she actually excommunicated the old man himself). Which would imply that Shirley even out-hated Fred himself, and isn't likely to go away just because he dies.

                  Probably the best news here is that even the Phelps family members themselves seem to be leaving the cult one by one. And the "church" never seemed to have much of a membership beyond the family. So a slow decay from within might take them out, even if the death of the cult leader does not.
                  Eat Us And Smile

                  Cenk For America 2024!!

                  Justice Democrats


                  "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                  • ELVIS
                    Banned
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                    This is of course God's way of saying gays are alright.
                    Although you're of course delusional...

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                    • ELVIS
                      Banned
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 44120

                      #11
                      Originally posted by fraroc
                      I hope that a huge fucking all-male orgy takes place upon his grave site
                      Too bad homo losers like you can't afford a bus ticket...

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49572

                        #12
                        Originally posted by binnie
                        I hate to give these guys any more of the oxygen of publicity, but I'll say this: I loathe eveything about Phelps' views and the organization which he founded, but I'll not stoop to his level by mocking a human being who is suffering.

                        I don't believe that there is an afterlife, but if there is I hope that Phelps finds the peace there that he clearly couldn't find on earth. I also hope that his 'Church' flounders in the absence of his leadership.
                        I will. I think it's kind of awesome that Hitler had Parkinson's Disease...

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                        • FORD
                          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 59661

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ELVIS
                          Too bad homo losers like you can't afford a bus ticket...
                          Who needs a bus ticket? He can just hitch a ride on the "Sodom mobile".........

                          Eat Us And Smile

                          Cenk For America 2024!!

                          Justice Democrats


                          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49572

                            #14
                            Originally posted by ELVIS
                            Although you're of course delusional...
                            Tell us what God says about gays, Elvis. Ask him the next time you talk to him. Also, ask why he wants to sell daughters into sexual servitude as whores (according to the Bible)?

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32942

                              #15
                              I think all these dispensationalist christian zionists should leave the US move to Israel. The zionist jews deserve them.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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