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  • ELVIS
    Banned
    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    #91
    Originally posted by Kristy
    Only if you learn how to look for a job. Deal?
    Why are you so jealous that I'm not a working stiff ??

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    • ELVIS
      Banned
      • Dec 2003
      • 44120

      #92
      Nevada Standoff a Symptom of Increasing Authoritarianism

      Ron Paul

      The nation’s attention has for the past few weeks been riveted by a standoff in Nevada between armed federal agents and the Bundys, a ranching family who believe the federal government is exceeding its authority by accessing “fees” against ranchers who graze cattle on government lands. Outrage over the government’s use of armed agents to forcibly remove the Bundys’ cattle led many Americans to travel to Nevada to engage in non-violent civil disobedience in support of the family.

      The protests seem to have worked, at least for now, as the government appears to have backed off from direct confrontation. Sadly, some elected officials have inflamed the situation by labeling the Bundys and their supporters “domestic terrorists,” thus justifying any future use of force by the government. That means there is always the possibility of another deadly Waco-style raid on the Bundys or a similar group in the future.

      In a state like Nevada, where 84 percent of the land is owned by the federal government, these types of conflicts are inevitable. Government ownership of land means that land is in theory owned by everyone, but in practice owned by no one. Thus, those who use the land lack the incentives to preserve it for the long term. As a result, land-use rules are set by politicians and bureaucrats. Oftentimes, the so-called “public” land is used in ways that benefit politically-powerful special interests.

      Politicians and bureaucrats can, and will, arbitrarily change the rules governing the land. In the 19th currently, some Americans moved to Nevada because the government promised them that they, and their descendants, would always be able to use the federally-owned land. The Nevada ranchers believed they had an implied contract with the government allowing them to use the land for grazing. When government bureaucrats decided they needed to restrict grazing to protect the desert tortoise, they used force to drive most ranchers away.

      By contrast, if the Nevada land in question was privately owned, the dispute over whether to allow the ranchers to continue to use the land would have likely been resolved without sending in federal armed agents to remove the Bundys’ cattle from the land. This is one more reason why the federal government should rid itself of all federal land holdings. Selling federal lands would also help reduce the federal deficit.

      It is unlikely that Congress will divest the federal government’s land holdings, as most in government are more interested in increasing government power then in protecting and restoring private property rights.

      A government that continually violates our rights of property and contract can fairly be descried as authoritarian. Of course, the politicians and bureaucrats take offense at this term, but how else do you describe a government that forbids Americans from grazing cattle on land they have used for over a century, from buying health insurance that does not met Obamacare’s standards, from trading with Cuba, or even from drinking raw milk! That so many in DC support the NSA spying and the TSA assaults on our privacy shows the low regard that too many in government have for our rights.

      History shows us that authoritarian systems, whether fascist, communist, or Keynesian, will inevitably fail. I believe incidents such as that in Nevada show we may be witnessing the failure of the American authoritarian warfare-welfare state — and that of course would be good. This is why it so important that those of us who understand the freedom philosophy spread the truth about how statism caused our problems and why liberty is the only solution.



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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 58806

        #93
        Originally posted by tbone888
        p.s taxes on capital gains we're arguably lower in the 20's and 30's than today..a huge source of papa joe's wealth.
        It was also one of the root causes of the Great Depression (accompanied by the lack of regulation of Wall Street)

        Which is why FDR fixed both of those problems. And they remained fixed up until 1982 or so, until the BCE started dismantling them again. And the country has been in an economic toilet spiral ever since.

        Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Those who deliberately repeat doomed history should be prevented from doing so, by whatever means necessary.
        Eat Us And Smile

        Cenk For America 2024!!

        Justice Democrats


        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 58806

          #94
          "History shows us that authoritarian systems, whether fascist, communist, or Keynesian....."

          What the FUCK????
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • Kristy
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Aug 2004
            • 16341

            #95
            Originally posted by ELVIS
            Why are you so jealous that I'm not a working stiff ??
            Because you're a lazy welfare recipient.

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            • Va Beach VH Fan
              ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
              • Dec 2003
              • 17913

              #96
              As usual, Jon calls Hannity out on his hypocrisy....

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              Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

              "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

              "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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              • Kristy
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 16341

                #97

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                • Nitro Express
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 32798

                  #98
                  Rumsfeld deserves to be tossed in too. A lot of Pentagon money ended up missing he didn't account for. I suspect Blackwater got some of it.
                  No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                  • Nitro Express
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 32798

                    #99
                    I once talked to someone who used to work for Sean Hannity. I guess he is very good to work for. That being said, the son of a bitch annoys the hell out of me.
                    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                    • Nitro Express
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 32798



                      Looks like the Clark County Sheriff finally stepped up and took the situation in hand. Sounds like the BLM people had enough and just wanted to get the hell out of there. Also people who were there said some of the militia pukes who showed up were trying to turn the situation violent. I know some of the groups in Montana are rumored to be troublemakers. Probably on someone's payroll who has an agenda.
                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • ELVIS
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 44120

                        Originally posted by FORD

                        Which is why FDR fixed both of those problems. And they remained fixed up until 1982 or so, until the Clinton Administration started dismantling them again. And the country has been in an economic toilet spiral ever since.
                        Fixed it...

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                        • ELVIS
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2003
                          • 44120

                          Originally posted by Nitro Express

                          Looks like the Clark County Sheriff finally stepped up and took the situation in hand. Sounds like the BLM people had enough and just wanted to get the hell out of there. Also people who were there said some of the militia pukes who showed up were trying to turn the situation violent. I know some of the groups in Montana are rumored to be troublemakers. Probably on someone's payroll who has an agenda.
                          Yeah...

                          But Harry Greed will be back...

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                          • ELVIS
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 44120

                            Originally posted by Kristy
                            Because you're a lazy welfare recipient.
                            Wrong, jealous, angry, tranny wannabe...

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                            • ashstralia
                              ROTH ARMY ELITE
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 6566

                              I'm waiting for the insane dude and exotic parrot photo.

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                              • Va Beach VH Fan
                                ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 17913

                                Originally posted by Nitro Express
                                I once talked to someone who used to work for Sean Hannity. I guess he is very good to work for. That being said, the son of a bitch annoys the hell out of me.

                                I've heard Keith Olbermann mention it several times: He and Hannity see each other at Yankee Stadium every now and then and are very cordial with each other....
                                Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

                                "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

                                "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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