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  • FORD
    ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

    • Jan 2004
    • 59650

    #31
    Originally posted by cadaverdog
    I proved they existed? How's that even possible? They don't.
    You mentioned Prescott Bush, Richard Nixon, and Poppy Bush. Three primary members of the BCE whose collective crime spree spanned 8 decades.
    Eat Us And Smile

    Cenk For America 2024!!

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    "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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    • cadaverdog
      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
      • Aug 2007
      • 8955

      #32
      I commend you for debating a point with me without calling me childish names more than the one socky comment that was made in jest but there's no point in debating anything with a person as dead set in their opinions as you are. If all these democrats aren't really democrats why doesn't the infallible democratic party get rid of them and how did they get into the party in the first place if they're not actually democrats?
      Beware of Dog

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      • cadaverdog
        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
        • Aug 2007
        • 8955

        #33
        Originally posted by FORD
        You mentioned Prescott Bush, Richard Nixon, and Poppy Bush. Three primary members of the BCE whose collective crime spree spanned 8 decades.
        It's not the BCE that's evil personified it's the KCE. The Kennedy Criminal Empire. They bankrolled Capone.
        Beware of Dog

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 59650

          #34
          Originally posted by cadaverdog
          I commend you for debating a point with me without calling me childish names more than the one socky comment that was made in jest but there's no point in debating anything with a person as dead set in their opinions as you are. If all these democrats aren't really democrats why doesn't the infallible democratic party get rid of them and how did they get into the party in the first place if they're not actually democrats?
          I'll let Mittens answer that one......



          As long as that fucking filthy lie is enforced by the Supreme Court - and the Opie Roberts court has now officially affirmed the lie twice - then we the people will never again control the parties, nor the system
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • cadaverdog
            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
            • Aug 2007
            • 8955

            #35
            Originally posted by FORD
            True. He was a Van Hagar vocalist. And a cheese ballad writing Repuke tequila salesman.
            He's not really a republican.
            Beware of Dog

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 59650

              #36
              Originally posted by cadaverdog
              It's not the BCE that's evil personified it's the KCE. The Kennedy Criminal Empire. They bankrolled Capone.
              No they didn't.

              Though they were in similar business ventures for a while. Which never could have happened had some short sighted religious right wingers not attempted to legislate alcohol out of existence.
              Eat Us And Smile

              Cenk For America 2024!!

              Justice Democrats


              "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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              • FORD
                ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                • Jan 2004
                • 59650

                #37
                Originally posted by cadaverdog
                He's not really a republican.
                Well, newsmeat.com seems to be down, but they have a whole list there of Spam's donations to Chimpy and to his teabagging treasonous piece of shit congressman Dana Rohrbacher.

                Not to mention his love for Ped Nugent and Toby "boot up your ass" Keith......

                Eat Us And Smile

                Cenk For America 2024!!

                Justice Democrats


                "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                • cadaverdog
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 8955

                  #38
                  Originally posted by FORD
                  Well, newsmeat.com seems to be down, but they have a whole list there of Spam's donations to Chimpy and to his teabagging treasonous piece of shit congressman Dana Rohrbacher.

                  Not to mention his love for Ped Nugent and Toby "boot up your ass" Keith......

                  I don't care who he gave money to. He's not a republican. Tea baggers as you call them aren't republicans. Anybody that's ever done anything wrong isn't a republican. The republican party is perfect in every way.
                  Beware of Dog

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                  • cadaverdog
                    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 8955

                    #39
                    Originally posted by FORD
                    No they didn't.

                    Though they were in similar business ventures for a while. Which never could have happened had some short sighted religious right wingers not attempted to legislate alcohol out of existence.
                    They were in cahoots.
                    Beware of Dog

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                    • FORD
                      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

                      • Jan 2004
                      • 59650

                      #40
                      Originally posted by cadaverdog
                      The republican party is perfect in every way.
                      Better find a new dealer, Socky. That shit you're smoking tonight is obviously laced with something nasty
                      Eat Us And Smile

                      Cenk For America 2024!!

                      Justice Democrats


                      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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                      • cadaverdog
                        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 8955

                        #41
                        Originally posted by FORD
                        Better find a new dealer, Socky. That shit you're smoking tonight is obviously laced with something nasty
                        I quit smoking weed. Don't keel over but I have a decent job now and I'm not about to lose it by failing a piss test. I'm even tempted to cut my hair but I probably won't. It's just now long enough to hide the fact I had a mullet recently. It's long enough on the front and sides to put into a pony tail now.
                        Beware of Dog

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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32942

                          #42
                          Originally posted by cadaverdog
                          I commend you for debating a point with me without calling me childish names more than the one socky comment that was made in jest but there's no point in debating anything with a person as dead set in their opinions as you are. If all these democrats aren't really democrats why doesn't the infallible democratic party get rid of them and how did they get into the party in the first place if they're not actually democrats?
                          I don't even bother with the political party arguments anymore. Both parties have been bought and paid for by K Street lobbyist and are ran by Washington insiders. It's about being for sale, power, and staying in office. It's no longer about public service.

                          Sure the marketing strategies are different. Oddly enough the war policy is exactly the same for the most part. Domestic policy differs a bit. The Democrat Party failed at undoing Bush's atrocities. Nothing changed and then both them and the Republicans added the National Defense Authorization Act on top of the Patriot Act. We became a police state under Bush. We became a bigger police state under Obama. We expanded our colonial wars calling them spreading democracy and oddly enough who we go to war with either has oil, no Bank of International Settlements sponsored central bank, or is prime real estate for a pipeline.

                          I mean arguing over these political parties is like arguing over what pile of shit on the grass is better. The darker shit or the shit that has a lighter shade of brown to it.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32942

                            #43
                            Originally posted by cadaverdog
                            I haven't changed my opinion that you're a commie I just figured you'd have found somebody else to fuck with by now. If I wanted to fuck with you on my sig I'd just make something up if I couldn't find an appropriate post.
                            Naw Ford isn't a communist. He's an old school believer in unions. He believes unions and government regulation will end the current corporate abuses going on in our country. Basically the traditional Democrats stood for a living wage for the working man. Now it would be phrased a working wage for the working people.

                            The thing is it is government's role to keep the playing field of capitalism fair. The problem is the government isn't doing it's job and the people aren't holding it accountable. Sadly the politicians have figured out how to buy votes with public funds. The Democrats get blamed at being the biggest perpetrators of this but the Republicans are just as bad.

                            The important thing to see is not everything the Democrats have traditionally stood for is bad. The civil rights movement would have never happened through the Republican Party. Kennedy was a good president. Truman was a good president. FDR was a leader who got things done. The problem with the New Deal is we never rolled it back when we no longer needed it. We did get some needed infrastructure built that we are still using and it created jobs.

                            I would be for some Roosevelt styled programs for today instead of blowing all the money on wars and bailing out bankers.

                            I doubt Ford was for those banker bailouts.

                            You just need to have an open mind and listen to both sides and make up your own mind based on your experience. It's a huge mistake to blow off people just because what they belong to is different from yours. They have this country so polarized it's going to self-destruct if we keep arguing over the same partisan shit.

                            Nobody is going to agree on everything and everyone's life experience is different. Also what might work in one part of the country might not work in another. But we need to make compromises.

                            Calling a person a commie or a chicken screwing redneck or a sock fucker is just pissing in the Cheerios. It might be fun but nothing is accomplished. That's why congress gets nothing done. It's a big pissing match.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • cadaverdog
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 8955

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Nitro Express
                              Naw Ford isn't a communist.
                              I only called him a commie because I knew he wouldn't take that as a serious insult. If I was trying to actually insult the man I'd have called him a liberal cocksucker or worse but I wasn't looking for another old school flame war with him and his pals. I think it's been a fairly civil debate so far so why act like an asshole if I don't have to? Nobody's sticking their beak in it and taking sides. I never thought such a thing was even possible at this site.
                              I don't disagree that alot of shit the republicans say or do is total bullshit but I don't think the other side's any better. I don't believe there are two political parties in the U S. I think they're all in cahoots in an effort to keep the common man powerless and confused about what they're really up to. What are they really up to? Lining their pockets at our expense.
                              Beware of Dog

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                              • ELVIS
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 44120

                                #45
                                Originally posted by FORD
                                They cheer on the destruction of the fucking planet and deny climate change...
                                Hahahahahahahahaha...

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