Black On Black Crime

[ashstralia]

My hat off to you, Mr Bridge.

[Anonymous]

I'll admit, it sometimes doesn't. In cases like these, what with all the constant race tension threads that rear their ugly heads, at DLR fan site of all places, during the lengthy droughts actual band related news, the hate becomes depressingly overpowering around here. If it is, in fact, my bad, then I do apologize.

I say we make fun of the whole issue.

And throw in some jew jokes, for good measure. They start all the wars, did you know that?

Cheers!

[ELVIS]

Believe it or not, there was a time when people were not afraid to tell jokes...

[ELVIS]

I think my thing with this story back in the day was that I could totally see how it could have happened to me or any of my friends who were out there traveling the world working in various jobs in our mid 20s.

They go to a bar have a few drinks some guys offer you a lift back to your hotel. No public transport in Texas so seems like a good idea. Something happens in the car, maybe they start coming on to you or they shake you down for money.

You jump out the car and you are in the middle of who knows where pre-cell phone what do you do?

After a while I would have done what they did, go to the nearest house ring the doorbell. Apologize like mad and ask to phone a cab.

I don't think that merits being murdered.

And I'm the crazy paranoid one around here ??

[Anonymous]

And I'm the crazy paranoid one around here ??

Well, somebody has to be, but there are quite a few of those here.

Is Von a jew? I seem to remember he took umbrage at a jew joke I told once. Admittedly, it probably wasn't very good.

Cheers!

[ELVIS]

[binnie]

Well that's my point.

I would be cautious but I certainly wouldn't attack the person.

It must be terrible to be so fearful all the time.

Indeed - that's what I don't get.

I've lived in some tough areas, but I've never been anything other than cautious. Why be afraid?

A lot of my US friends always parot the 'what if someone breaks into your home' line about guns, but I look around my home and think 'how is someone going to break in'? Double-glazed windows and a front/back door with two different locks plus bolt. Unless I leave my house unlocked or lose my keys, no-one is getting in without me noticing. In fact, I remember once having to break into a friends house because he'd been an idiot and locked both his keys inside, and it took us over half an hour with a sledgehammer to get one of those modern front doors down. Admitedly I'm no hardened criminal, but it's no easy task to break into a house that someone's spent a bit of money securing.

The only difference I see between the US and UK is size. If someone tries to break into my house, I call the police and they're there in 2 minutes. In parts of the US where there's no one for miles, I guess that's not possible....

[binnie]

There's a problem and most people like to avoid speaking directly to it out of fear of being called a racist. When a minority of the population is the majority of the prison population you have a problem. They have no role models - no positive ones at least. The black 'community' needs to do something about it. It's pretty out of hand where I live, but the local papers never make mention of race.. The swat team had to shut down a portion of A1A in Fort Lauderdale due to 'urban weekend' this past memorial day. Non-whites decided to take over and we pulling people out of cars. It's fucking nuts, but not one paper/news outlet addressed the issue for what it was. I'm looking forward to next year when it's a police state on the beach because our negros here are savages.

I think the problem is poverty, not race. It stands to reason that the poorer the area you live in, the more likely you are to fall into crime etc. If the US is anything like the UK, it stands to reason that the reason there's a disproportionate % of black people in prison is because there are also a disproportionate % of black people living in poverty. All of the people I grew up with (in a poor area) are white, and many of the boys ended up in trouble. Why? The role model issue is key (many didn't have fathers); as is the issue of single-parenting (you can be the best parent in the world, but there's only one of you are that gives the kid more unsupervised time, which increases the liklihood of mischief); and, above all else, it's about aspiration - if you're born into a middle-class family, being middle-class is normal, it's what you aim for in your own life, and you think it's achievable. I think that the same thing applies to poorer areas, too. It's simply a case of behaviour repeating itself.

How to fix the problem? God only knows.....

[Von Halen]

The brotha recording this sure is proud of the "hood".

[DONNIEP]

Yeah, that's the kind of life I want to live...

[DONNIEP]

and, above all else, it's about aspiration

True. And there's a good portion of the younger generation coming up that aspire to be Thugs. Kids who want nothing more than to do drugs, sell drugs, flash some cash, and wave a gun around. Thug Life - and they love it. Hell, back in February some local kids in the next town over filmed a "rap" video. Now one might say "well, that takes some hard work, some ambition and some serious dedication to go to all that trouble." And I say bullshit. What was in the video? Kids smoking dope, kids flashing some cash, one kid flashing a pistol that he ain't old enough to own, and the little punk ass rapper is talking about how if you "roll up" on his "crew" they're gonna "smoke you". Oh yeah, and there's the obligatory degradation of women, in this case teenage girls. And there's plenty of teenage girls in the background, smiling, laughing. Why? Because they're POS Thug Wannabes too. And these aren't "poor" kids. They're just fucking punk ass pieces of shit that aspire to nothing more than being thugs. And depending on where one lives, the percentage of these little animals running around goes through the roof.

[Anonymous]

How to fix the problem? God only knows.....

You don't. Yeah, yeah, we all want to make a difference, make this a better world, equal rights, etc.

But the truth, the cold naked truth is that this problem's been around ever since there's been humans. That's thousands of years. It hasn't been fixed yet, so what makes anyone think it will be?

What you SHOULD NOT do, however, is IGNORE the problem, pretend it doesn't exist & close your eyes & cover your ears for fear of being branded racist.

Problems NEED to be acknowledged, which leads us to the fact that we have to acknowledge that the current politicians & politicians-in-training have basically turned into the aristocracy that we were hoping to avoid by having a "democracy".

Something went wrong, somewhere & THAT needs to be fixed before anything else.

Cheers!

[vandeleur]

Is the problem donniep using the word degradation . And not on the fun way .

[vandeleur]

The brotha recording this sure is proud of the "hood".

Wow ... Just fucking wow

[DONNIEP]

Wow ... Just fucking wow

You do know that was Von filming that, right?