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  • ELVIS
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    • Dec 2003
    • 44120

    American IT workers forced to train 'guest workers' hired to replace them!

    U.S. workers protested job losses to foreign workers by displaying American flags in their cubicles

    Computer World

    This is the story of an IT worker who was replaced by a worker on an H-1B visa, one of a number of visa holders, mostly from India, who took jobs at this U.S. company. Computerworld is not going to use the worker's name or identify the companies involved to protect the former employee from retaliation. For purposes of this story, the worker has been given initials -- A.B. (They're not the person's real initials.)

    At A.B.'s company, about 220 IT jobs have been lost to offshore outsourcing over the last year. A.B. is telling the story because, initially, there was little knowledge among fellow employees about H-1B visa holders and how they are used. They didn't know that offshore outsourcing firms are the largest users of H-1B visas, or exactly how this visa facilitates IT job losses in the U.S.

    "I think once we learned about it, we became angrier toward the U.S. government than we were with the people that were over here from India," A.B. said, "because the government is allowing this."

    The IT workers at this firm first learned of the offshore outsourcing threat through rumors. Later, the IT staff was called into an auditorium and heard directly from the CIO about the plan to replace them. It would take months for the transition to be completed, in part because of some new system installations.

    Many younger IT workers found jobs and left. Mainframe workers were apparently in demand and also able to find new jobs. But older workers with skills in open systems, storage and SAN faced a harder time. About half the IT staffers, mostly the older ones, would stay to the end.

    Training the replacement workers involved holding morning-long WebEx meetings several times a week with offshore outsourcing staff based in India. The sessions were recorded as details about the environment, including diagrams and scripts, were shared.

    As they moved closer to the termination date for the U.S. workers, the overseas employees would follow or shadow, via WebEx sessions, everything an IT worker did during the day. The outsourcing firm's onshore staff helped to coordinate these efforts, but also worked to untangle the meaning of some of the questions.

    The overseas workers did not appear to have much practical experience, and the same questions were asked repeatedly, A.B. said.

    Before they lost their jobs, A.B.'s co-workers decided to made a subtle and symbolic protest over what was happening: As the H-1B visa workers gradually took over the offices once occupied by U.S. workers, one employee brought in a bunch of small American flags on sticks.

    The flags were retrofitted so they could fit into the walls of the cubicles.

    The flags were displayed, cubicle after cubicle, much like way flags are hung on homes in a residential neighborhoods on the 4th of July. They were visible to anyone walking down the hall. "That was the only thing that we could do," A.B. said. "We felt that we were making a statement.


    Last edited by ELVIS; 06-15-2014, 11:11 PM.
  • twonabomber
    formerly F A T
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Jan 2004
    • 11300

    #2
    Our help desk is based in India. They suck.
    Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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    • ELVIS
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      • Dec 2003
      • 44120

      #3
      Soon your job will be there...

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 59948

        #4
        This is the REAL immigration problem in this country. It's not Jose cutting your lawn or Maria working as a maid at the Motel 666.

        It's the IT industry, that might as well stand for "India Takeover" given the outsourcing and insourcing from there.
        Eat Us And Smile

        Cenk For America 2024!!

        Justice Democrats


        "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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        • twonabomber
          formerly F A T
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          • Jan 2004
          • 11300

          #5
          Originally posted by ELVIS
          Soon your job will be there...
          Not yet. Not until they figure out how to ship from there to here in a couple hours. Most of what I make goes one town over, which is ten minutes away.
          Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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          • ELVIS
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            • Dec 2003
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            #6
            Well, "yet" isn't very far off...

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            • ELVIS
              Banned
              • Dec 2003
              • 44120

              #7
              Originally posted by FORD
              This is the REAL immigration problem in this country. It's not Jose cutting your lawn or Maria working as a maid at the Motel 666.

              It's the IT industry, that might as well stand for "India Takeover" given the outsourcing and insourcing from there.
              It's both...

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              • twonabomber
                formerly F A T
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Jan 2004
                • 11300

                #8
                Originally posted by ELVIS
                Well, "yet" isn't very far off...
                When we get to the point that shipping from India to Ohio takes a couple hours, I'll be dead and won't give a shit.
                Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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                • Nitro Express
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 32942

                  #9
                  I don't miss corporate America. It's actually gotten worse since I left it 13 years ago. I could see the writing on the wall. You either had to be a connected chum at the top or you had to cut a little niche out for yourself. If you stayed it was just a matter of time before you got laid off or had your pay cut. Finding another job was just finding another bullshit situation. Once they play out these financial frauds, there are going to be a lot of out of work financial people. Auditors will be in high demand.
                  No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                  • ELVIS
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                    • Dec 2003
                    • 44120

                    #10
                    Originally posted by twonabomber
                    When we get to the point that shipping from India to Ohio takes a couple hours, I'll be dead and won't give a shit.
                    They're not going to be shipping jack shit to Ohio in the near future...

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                    • Seshmeister
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                      • Oct 2003
                      • 35827

                      #11
                      Originally posted by twonabomber
                      When we get to the point that shipping from India to Ohio takes a couple hours, I'll be dead and won't give a shit.
                      They may work out how to print it before you die.

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                      • ELVIS
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                        • Dec 2003
                        • 44120

                        #12
                        He's not worried, someone in human resources told him his job was safe...

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                        • twonabomber
                          formerly F A T
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                          • Jan 2004
                          • 11300

                          #13
                          I know better than that. Our HR is the most inhuman group in the building...if they bother to show up.
                          Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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                          • ELVIS
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                            • Dec 2003
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                            #14
                            They're probably being outsourced to India as we speak...

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                            • twonabomber
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                              • Jan 2004
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                              #15
                              That may be a trade up.
                              Writing In All Proper Case Takes Extra Time, Is Confusing To Read, And Is Completely Pointless.

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