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  • ELVIS
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    • Dec 2003
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    Obama weighs executive action to bring 800,000 foreign workers into USA

    Breitbart

    After meeting with a "bevy" of big-business groups, President Barack Obama is reportedly considering granting them up to 800,000 additional guest-worker visas via executive actions.



    According to the Associated Press, "one of the more popular requests among business and family groups is a change in the way green cards are counted," which would "essentially free up some 800,000 additional visas the first year." In addition, "other requests have included removing the requirement that some spouses of U.S. citizens return to their native country for at least three years before they can apply for U.S. residency, as well as extending work permits to the spouses of all temporary H1-B skilled workers." The Obama administration is also considering granting work permits for low-skilled industries as well.

    The Obama administration "has already increased the number of guest-worker permits by possibly 100,000 when it allowed the spouses of high-tech guest-workers who are applying for permanent residency to obtain permits."

    Numerous companies – like Microsoft and Cisco – have massively laid off American workers while pushing the Obama administration for more guest-worker visas at a time when scholars and studies from organizations on the left, right, and center have debunked the notion that there is a shortage of American high-tech workers. The Obama administration reportedly wants to appease big-business interests so they give him air cover for his potential executive amnesty, which may enable millions of illegal immigrants to get work permits in addition to temporary amnesty.

    All of these actions would make it tougher for Americans at the bottom of the economic ladder to get jobs, as U.S. Civil Rights Commissioner Peter Kirsanow has repeatedly emphasized. And as Breitbart News has reported, Americans are increasingly demanding a "pause" in the number of guest-workers who are admitted. A Reuters poll "found that 70% of Americans feel illegal immigrants threaten U.S. beliefs and customs, 63% believe more immigration at this time threatens the country's economy, and 45% want fewer immigrants. A recent poll from The Polling Company found that 90% of likely voters feel that "U.S.-born workers and legal immigrants already here should get first preference for jobs." Strong majorities of those who favor a pathway to legalization and citizenship for illegal immigrants even believe that "jobs now held by illegal immigrants should go to American workers."

    Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) accused the Obama administration of "actively working against the interests of the American worker."

    "We have communities throughout America that are barely scraping by. Tens of millions of Americans are on welfare, unemployment, and public assistance," Sessions said in a statement this week. "Yet the White House and their Senate Majority seem more concerned about the economic demands of large corporations, or the citizens of other countries, than about getting our own citizens back to work into stable jobs that can support a family and uplift a community.”
  • ELVIS
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    • Dec 2003
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    #2
    No takers ??

    Not even you IT guys ??

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 59558

      #3
      My position on this one is well established. I'm on record as saying that the H1B visa crowd is doing a HELL of a lot more damage than the produce-pickers.
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      • lesfunk
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        • Jan 2004
        • 3583

        #4
        He's working against the intrests of the poor. As if it isn't hard enough for people to find work already... adding close to a million to the "work" force aka "welfare" seems counterintuitive at the very least
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        • Angel
          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
          • Jan 2004
          • 7481

          #5
          A lot of unemployed people in Canada can tell you all about temp foreign workers....
          "Ya know what they say about angels... An angel is a supernatural being or spirit, usually humanoid in form, found in various religions and mythologies. Plus Roth fan boards..."- ZahZoo April 2013

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          • Seshmeister
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Oct 2003
            • 35750

            #6
            Originally posted by ELVIS
            Breitbart

            Numerous companies – like Microsoft and Cisco – have massively laid off American workers while pushing the Obama administration for more guest-worker visas at a time when scholars and studies from organizations on the left, right, and center have debunked the notion that there is a shortage of American high-tech workers. The Obama administration reportedly wants to appease big-business interests so they give him air cover for his potential executive amnesty, which may enable millions of illegal immigrants to get work permits in addition to temporary amnesty.
            I don't know what the truth is but according to his biography Steve Jobs repeatedly campaigned for foreign engineers to be allowed visas because there simply weren't enough US ones to supervise the manufacture of iPhones, iPads etc so he had to send the work to China.

            Steve Jobs was a cunt though plus you would think in the intervening years since his death if there was a skills gap in the US the colleges would have stepped up to fill the gap?

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
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              #7
              And that's why Steve Jobs is now desigining iPhone 6.66 in Hell. But I'm sure Andy Breitbart will buy one.
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              • Seshmeister
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Oct 2003
                • 35750

                #8
                I obviously don't believe in hell but using iTunes on a PC regularly is like a guided tour of the worst bits.

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                • Nitro Express
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                  • Aug 2004
                  • 32942

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Seshmeister
                  I don't know what the truth is but according to his biography Steve Jobs repeatedly campaigned for foreign engineers to be allowed visas because there simply weren't enough US ones to supervise the manufacture of iPhones, iPads etc so he had to send the work to China.

                  Steve Jobs was a cunt though plus you would think in the intervening years since his death if there was a skills gap in the US the colleges would have stepped up to fill the gap?
                  If Apple did bring it's manufacturing back to the US it would be automated and not create that many jobs. If your cost of production is more than your competitors you can't compete. China and other low cost labor Asian countries is where everyone is having their stuff made. We are in a real dilemma with multinational corporations. They have become more powerful than nations. They put their corporate headquarters in the countries with the lowest corporate tax rates and put the manufacturing in areas with the cheaper labor. Then they take their money and bribe the politicians and buy the governments. In fact, the anti-trust legislation we did have has been repealed by bought off politicians so right now we are back at the robber baron stage of things. This seems to be a 100 year cycle. The pendulum swings the other way once the public gets fed up.
                  No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                  • Seshmeister
                    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                    • Oct 2003
                    • 35750

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nitro Express
                    If Apple did bring it's manufacturing back to the US it would be automated and not create that many jobs. If your cost of production is more than your competitors you can't compete.
                    Over the last few years Apple have beat that rule. People have paid a large premium for their products because they like them.

                    It's amazing how the biggest corporation which makes the most money with the biggest mark ups, gives little in tax or to charities somehow still manages to market itself as the outsider quirky good guys.
                    Last edited by Seshmeister; 08-23-2014, 08:22 AM.

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                    • FORD
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                      • Jan 2004
                      • 59558

                      #11
                      I don't get the Apple fanboyism either. The iPod is probably their single best invention of the last few years, and it's basically just a Walkman, updated to 21st century media formats, and most of the newer versions have wifi.

                      iPhones and iPads might have more bells and whistles than their Android counterparts, but only for those who want to pay for them. Functionally, there's not a Hell of a lot of difference.

                      Apple computer hardware is irrelevant now, as they use Intel processors like everyone else. And while the OS is obviously more secure than Windows, the reason that is the case is that OSX (and all of it's derivatives) are built on top of Darwin BSD, which is a fork of Unix, just as Linux is. So if you built your own Intel tower and installed Linux Mint on it, (or bought any premade Windows PC, and wiped the piece of shit Windows 8 off of it, and then installed Linux Mint) you could have a machine just as secure as a Mac, running a similar operating system, and if you really want it to LOOK like Apple, there are ways to do that too....

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                      • ELVIS
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                        • Dec 2003
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                        #12
                        No such thing as a secure computer...

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                        • FORD
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                          • Jan 2004
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by ELVIS
                          No such thing as a secure computer...
                          Of course not. But everybody knows that Microsoft has more holes in their products than a 500 pound wheel of swiss cheese. Just by nature of the operating system alone, the unix based operating systems are more secure. On top of that, there's also the fact that most of the idiots writing malware were doing so for Windows because it had the biggest market share, and could hit the most targets. Microsoft has most of the government and corporate contracts, though hopefully bv now most of their IT departments have enough brains to use more secure servers, even if they are going to continue to use only Windows desktops.

                          Android is probably the second less secure, but that's because it's a Google invention, and Google is a branch office of the NSA. And if you think I'm exaggerating about that.... go set up a Google Voice account right now, and when it calls your phone to verify, pay attention to the area code. Here's a hint..... you will probably recognize it. And it's not anywhere near Silicon Valley CA. Not by about 3000 miles or so.
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                          • VetteLS5
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                            • Mar 2012
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by FORD
                            go set up a Google Voice account right now, and when it calls your phone to verify, pay attention to the area code. Here's a hint..... you will probably recognize it. And it's not anywhere near Silicon Valley CA. Not by about 3000 miles or so.
                            703 or 571?

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                            • Seshmeister
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                              • Oct 2003
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                              #15

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