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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49210

    The Bombing of ISIS

    U.S. and Allies Strike ISIS Targets in Syria

    By BEN HUBBARD, ALAN COWELL and HELENE COOPERSEPT. 23, 2014


    An undated stock photo of a UAE Air Force "Desert Falcon" F-16 variant...

    BEIRUT, Lebanon — The United States and five Arab allies launched a wide-ranging air campaign against the Islamic State and at least one other extremist group in Syria for the first time early Tuesday, targeting the groups’ bases, training camps and checkpoints in at least four provinces, according to the United States military and Syrian activists.

    The attacks struck a fierce opening blow against the jihadists of the Islamic State, scattering their forces and damaging the network of facilities they have built in Syria that helped fuel the group’s seizure of a large part of Iraq this year.

    Separate from the attacks on the Islamic State, the United States Central Command, or Centcom, said that American forces acting alone “took action” against “a network of seasoned Al Qaeda veterans” from the Khorasan group in Syria to disrupt “imminent attack planning against the United States and Western interests.”

    Officials did not reveal where or when such attacks might take place.

    Al Qaeda cut ties with the Islamic State earlier this year because the group’s leader, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, disobeyed orders from Al Qaeda to fight only in Iraq. Just days ago, American officials said the Khorasan group, led by a shadowy figure who was once in Osama bin Laden’s inner circle, had emerged in the past year as the Syria-based cell most intent on launching a terror attack on the United States or on its installations overseas.

    Some background on goals, tactics and the potential long-term threat to the United States from the militant group known as the Islamic State.
    Video Credit By Natalia V. Osipova and Christian Roman on Publish Date September 10, 2014. Image CreditReuters

    The latest campaign opened with multiple strikes before dawn that focused on the Islamic State’s de facto capital, the city of Raqqa, and on its bases in the surrounding countryside. Other strikes hit in the provinces of Deir al-Zour and Hasaka, whose oil wells the Islamic State, also known as ISIS or ISIL, have exploited to finance its operations.

    The extent of the damage caused by the strikes remained unclear. Centcom said the wave of fighter planes, bombers, drones and cruise missiles struck 14 targets linked to the Islamic State.

    “All aircraft safely exited the strike areas,” the statement said.

    Almost 50 cruise missiles were launched from two American vessels in the Red Sea and the north of the Persian Gulf, it said, adding that four other attacks were launched on militant targets in Iraq in the same period, bringing the total there to 194.

    The intensity and scale of the strikes were greater than those launched by the United States in Iraq, where it has been bombing select Islamic State targets for months. The air campaign also marks the biggest direct military intervention in Syria since the crisis began more than three years ago.

    Centcom identified the Arab states participating in the campaign as Bahrain, Jordan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. Their participation is seen as important to limit criticisms that the United States is waging war alone against Muslims. But their role varied between support for the strikes and participation, the military said.

    The Jordanian Army said on Tuesday that it had carried out airstrikes against “terrorist groups” that were plotting to attack Jordan, according to Reuters.

    In intervening in Syria, the United States is injecting its military might into a brutal civil war between the government of President Bashar al-Assad, the Islamic State and a range of rebel groups that originally took up arms to fight Mr. Assad but have also come to oppose the Islamic State.

    It was unclear what effect the American-led strikes would have on the larger conflict.

    The Islamic State, while having chalked up numerous victories against the Syrian and Iraqi security forces and against Syrian rebels, has proved vulnerable to air power in Iraq, and it is unlikely that it can continue to hold all of its territory and facilities amid a sustained air campaign.

    American officials said that the strikes were not coordinated with the government of Mr. Assad, who President Obama has said has lost his legitimacy to rule and should step down.

    But Syrian state television reported on Monday that the United States had informed Syria’s ambassador to the United Nations before the attacks were launched. This followed weeks of threats by Syrian officials that any uncoordinated strikes on Syria would be considered an act of aggression.

    Some of Syria’s allies have suggested that the government in Damascus would benefit from strikes, although analysts question whether the Syrian military has the forces it would need to do so.

    Syria also has hundreds of rebels groups, many of which hate the Islamic State, and the United States has been working with allies to build up a small number groups deemed moderate. But these forces remain relatively small and are far from the Islamic State’s locations, so there is little chance that they will soon be able to seize control of any areas vacated by the Islamic State.

    Reuters quoted an unidentified ISIS fighter as saying “these attacks will be answered.” The militants have already released videos showing the beheadings of two American hostages and of one British captive, and have threatened a fourth hostage, a Briton, with the same fate.

    Additionally, an Algerian group linked to Islamic State has claimed to have kidnapped a French citizen. Prime Minister Manuel Valls told French radio that there would be “no discussion, no negotiation and we will never give in to blackmail” about the hostage’s fate.

    France, whose warplanes joined the air campaign in Iraq last week but not the overnight strikes in Syria, has strongly denied persistent reports that it has paid ransom money to free its citizens held hostage by jihadist groups.

    The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported strikes in five Syrian provinces, in the country’s north and east, targeting bases and training camps of the Islamic State and other groups.

    In addition to Islamic State bases in the provinces of Raqqa, Hasaka, Deir al-Zour and Aleppo, strikes also hit bases belonging to the Nusra Front further west, killing at least seven Nusra fighters and eight civilians, according to the observatory, which tracks the conflict from Britain through a network of contacts in Syria.

    Even for a population that has grown used to the sounds and sights of war, the new strikes proved surprising.

    In a video posted online, a man in Idlib Province inspected a greenish metal hunk of what he said was the remainder of the munitions used in a strike.

    “No one knows what happened yet,” the man said. “This was the first time we have heard an explosion like this during this revolution.”

    Adding to the broader ramifications of the Syrian war, the Israeli military said Tuesday that it had shot down a Syrian fighter jet that had “infiltrated into Israeli airspace,” the first such incident in at least a quarter of a century.

    Lt. Col. Peter Lerner, a military spokesman, said the Patriot air-defense system had intercepted a Russian-made Sukhoi warplane over the Israeli-controlled Golan Heights around 9:15 a.m.

    On Syria’s northern border, meanwhile, more than 130,000 Syrian Kurds have fled into Turkey to escape an advance by Islamic State fighters. The humanitarian catastrophe could worsen within days. The United Nations relief agency in Geneva said on Tuesday that it was possible that all 400,000 inhabitants of a Syrian Kurdish border town, which Arabs refer to as Ayn-al-Arab and Kurds call Kobani, would to try to flee into Turkey.

    The United Nations human rights agency said Tuesday that it had received “very alarming” reports from the town of “deliberate killing of civilians, including women and children, the abduction of hundreds of Kurds by ISIL, and widespread looting and destruction of infrastructure and private property.”

    Militants had taken over the main source of water, leading to severe shortages, the agency said. “While an estimated 138,000 people have fled the area,” the organization added in a statement, “hundreds of thousands remain in the region, living in fear of the kind of persecution that ISIL has carried out against religious and ethnic minorities elsewhere in Syria and Iraq.”

    In Britain, senior officials said Prime Minister David Cameron was weighing whether to seek Parliament’s approval to join the air war, but only in Iraq and at the invitation of the Baghdad government.

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    Ben Hubbard reported from Beirut, Alan Cowell from London and Helene Cooper from Washington. Mohammed Ghannam contributed reporting from Beirut. Eric Schmitt from Washington, and Somini Sengupta from the United Nations.
  • DLR Bridge
    ROCKSTAR

    • Mar 2011
    • 5470

    #2
    Shouldn't be long before an attack on the west like the one foiled in Australia takes place.

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    • Nitro Express
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 32798

      #3
      ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzz
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • kwame k
        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
        • Feb 2008
        • 11302

        #4
        You knew we were going to bomb something.......you can't behead journalists and not expect it!

        It just amazes me that they're talking about arming the opposition to ISIS. We've had so much success with that in the past! If you're the MIC and want to create our next enemy and make sure they have the tools to fight us, that is!

        Bill Clinton said we can't win a ground war in Iraq we've proven that! He's right......we're great at overrunning and collapsing regimes but really shitty at occupations.

        While these guys are bad and will continue to escalate their deeds.......in proportion they're not even the biggest threat to the US or it's interests.

        The theory of perpetual war only enriches a few at a great cost to many.....while fighting one enemy you create new enemies.......you stall economic progress here and in the end, never solve the real problem.
        Originally posted by vandeleur
        E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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        • Kristy
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Aug 2004
          • 16341

          #5
          There is no coalition force in play here. This is Iraq 1991 part deux The only diffy being there is no oil at stake - at least not yet. ISIS is more or less a gang of roaming thugs who rape, rob and murder in the name of Islam and America does not give one shit when it comes to Muslims brutally murdering other Muslims. However, when it comes to US corporate interest, meaning OIL then it becomes quite a another story. ISIS could easy be destroyed in months but that will never happen as long as there is profit involved. Makes one wonder how much the American war machine(s) stand to gain in prolonging an enemy that is well funded, armed and ruthless.

          ISIS is a(nother) Wall Street war just like Iraq and Afghanistan. There is no money to be made in Syria unless you're someone like Raytheon knowing the corporate media whores who perpetuate fear into the American watching public will not question their tax dollars being put on the wings of F-16s and drones killing the uneducated and poor in the Third World. It's a great gig if you can get in on it.

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          • DONNIEP
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • Mar 2004
            • 13373

            #6
            Originally posted by DLR Bridge
            Shouldn't be long before an attack on the west like the one foiled in Australia takes place.
            Wouldn't it be nice if these guys really were make believe? Just some shadowy CIA operation restricted to Dirtville? Yeah, they're not. They are coming here. And it won't take many of them, say 30 or 50. Blow themselves up in a couple schools, maybe a church, and behead a couple people in the streets and guess what happens? There will be a war waged in this country that will make the Civil War look like the Christmas Play at the Baptist church.
            American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.

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            • DLR Bridge
              ROCKSTAR

              • Mar 2011
              • 5470

              #7
              Originally posted by DONNIEP
              Wouldn't it be nice if these guys really were make believe? Just some shadowy CIA operation restricted to Dirtville? Yeah, they're not. They are coming here. And it won't take many of them, say 30 or 50. Blow themselves up in a couple schools, maybe a church, and behead a couple people in the streets and guess what happens? There will be a war waged in this country that will make the Civil War look like the Christmas Play at the Baptist church.
              A war against whom? Sleeper cells awaiting their calling to kamikaze their own asses in said churches and schools? If so, then we already lost.

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              • DONNIEP
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Mar 2004
                • 13373

                #8
                Originally posted by DLR Bridge
                A war against whom? Sleeper cells awaiting their calling to kamikaze their own asses in said churches and schools? If so, then we already lost.
                That's what I'm saying. They're here and there will be more of them before long. And how many young people in this country are becoming bedroom radicals, getting indoctrinated via the internet and seeing this as their time to do their part to usher in the Caliphate? When they start going nuts here it's gonna be us against them - and we'll all be us and we'll all be them, depending on who's standing in front of you at any given time. Ah, I hope I'm wrong. I'd rather play on the internet in my free time than have to worry if the guy next to me in traffic wants to chop my head off.
                American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.

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                • kwame k
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 11302

                  #9
                  OK Captain Paranoid...... How many sleeper cells and people would you estimate are here..... 100? 1,000? Hell, for the sake of argument let's say there's 10,000 on American soil right now and they'll strike in a coordinated effort at the stroke of Midnight, tonight! While horrific, not even close to the worst battle in the Civil War! You do realize keeping you afraid is the whole point.....thinking that sleeper cells could do anything but marginal damage means the propaganda has you hook line and sinker!

                  The threat isn't as big as the media would have you think and the beauty of this Terra scam is it only takes a small group of people to do a couple of gruesome murders and everyone loses their fucking minds!

                  You're part of the problem, dude! Being easily duped!
                  Originally posted by vandeleur
                  E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                  • DONNIEP
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 13373

                    #10
                    You misunderstand my post, King Of Queers. I'm not saying even several terrorist strikes would cripple the country. Not by a long shot. It's gonna be the aftermath that's gonna tear the country apart. Like you just said, "it only takes a small group of people to do a couple of gruesome murders and everyone loses their fucking minds!" And it's the people running around terrified and suspicious of every other person that's gonna be the problem. Or maybe everybody will hold hands and sing We Are The World. Who knows.
                    American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.

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                    • DONNIEP
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Mar 2004
                      • 13373

                      #11
                      And where the hell have you been lately?
                      American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.

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                      • vandeleur
                        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 9865

                        #12
                        You have a similar chance of being crushed by your tv than in a terrorist attack .
                        We need a war on tv , it will help the cathod Ray dollar .

                        Though that statistic may not include these thin flat screen numbers , they are pretty cool
                        fuck your fucking framing

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                        • DONNIEP
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 13373

                          #13
                          Originally posted by vandeleur
                          You have a similar chance of being crushed by your tv than in a terrorist attack .
                          We need a war on tv , it will help the cathod Ray dollar .

                          Though that statistic may not include these thin flat screen numbers , they are pretty cool
                          Huh, well, the Australians would argue against that. Not the tv part, tv is Devilly!
                          American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.

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                          • kwame k
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 11302

                            #14
                            The Bombing of ISIS

                            The aftermath will only concern the kids in our military because as the aftermath of 9/11 has shown.......we'll have to invade whatever country we pretend has harbored these dastardly villains and deregulate Wall St some more so we can all have another Dubya sandwich!

                            King of Queers, eh.......how's all those other awesome websites you guys are building to take down the Army? Been outta the loop for awhile
                            Originally posted by vandeleur
                            E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                            • vandeleur
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 9865

                              #15
                              Australians arnt worried about terrorists I've met loads , last orders scares the jeezus out of them
                              fuck your fucking framing

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