Crying Oompa Loompa Refers to Himself 76 Times

[Seshmeister]

The proposal wouldn't have prevented Sandy Hook. Wouldn't have prevented the school shooting near me in Chardon, and not the one last summer a few miles from here.

There were over 370 mass shootings would it have prevented any of them?

[DONNIEP]

There were over 370 mass shootings would it have prevented any of them?

Probably not. All it takes is one psycho with a bolt action rifle and a clock tower.

[vandeleur]

Ban clock towers doh :D

[twonabomber]

There were over 370 mass shootings would it have prevented any of them?

Of course not. Just touching on the ones that hit close to home.

[Anonymous]

Ban clock towers doh :D

If they do that, these guys will run around claiming it's a gubment cuntspiracy to take away their right of telling the time in public!

Open time telling is a big thing in the UBA.

[Anonymous]

Of course not. Just touching on the ones that hit close to home.

I think Shesh is trying to fish for someone who would say "well, maybe one or two".

Then he could sit up straight, adopt a smug smile & self-righteously type "Then it would all be worth it."

I'm glad you guys are all so dumb that you managed to avoid this blatant self-serving trap out of sheer cluelessness.

[vandeleur]

[DONNIEP]

There ain't a law that can be passed that will prevent some psycho from killing a bunch of people. Background checks are a non issue here - we already have a law that states you gotta perform a background check for all gun purchases and nobody's crying about it infringing on their rights.

But when the ATF puts out new guidelines and there's no red line threshold that says how many guns you can sell before you have to have an FFL then there's a problem. The new guidelines are bullshit. Let's say I decided to sell my AR because I wanted to build one myself but I've only had it for a month or so. The time that I've owned it can be considered when the gubment wants to decide if I'm in the business of selling guns. Let's say I decide to sell two of my guns to fund the purchase of two different ones. Same problem. Since there's no threshold the gubment can come in after the fact and prosecute me even though I haven't violated any law. In fact, in the case of handgun sales, whomever I've sold to had to go through TWO background checks before I can sell him his new pistol.

What this is is a way to prosecute law abiding citizens by making the law so ambiguous that no one knows if they've violated it.

[vandeleur]

There ain't a law that can be passed that will prevent some psycho from killing a bunch of people. Background checks are a non issue here - we already have a law that states you gotta perform a background check for all gun purchases and nobody's crying about it infringing on their rights.

But when the ATF puts out new guidelines and there's no red line threshold that says how many guns you can sell before you have to have an FFL then there's a problem. The new guidelines are bullshit. Let's say I decided to sell my AR because I wanted to build one myself but I've only had it for a month or so. The time that I've owned it can be considered when the gubment wants to decide if I'm in the business of selling guns. Let's say I decide to sell two of my guns to fund the purchase of two different ones. Same problem. Since there's no threshold the gubment can come in after the fact and prosecute me even though I haven't violated any law. In fact, in the case of handgun sales, whomever I've sold to had to go through TWO background checks before I can sell him his new pistol.

What this is is a way to prosecute law abiding citizens by making the law so ambiguous that no one knows if they've violated it.

I have to say izzys posts are funnier :D

[Seshmeister]

I think it's funny that so many Americans would prefer to think of themselves as somehow far more likely to be naturally born 'evil' violent killers than that that some of their laws were a bit shit.

[DONNIEP]

I think it's funny that so many Americans would prefer to think of themselves as somehow far more likely to be naturally born 'evil' violent killers than that that some of their laws were a bit shit.

It may be your stuttering that's throwing me off here but I have no idea what you're trying to say. Are you saying people who go on killing sprees do it because of lax laws or, well, I don't know what

[Seshmeister]

Maybe you're just not developed?

[DONNIEP]

Well, out of all of our gun deaths, only a little over 8,000 are actual murders. That's pretty low for a country of almost 330 million people. Now, any gun murder is too many. But you have to keep in mind that a large percentage of that number is gang related violence - regardless of what any liberal posts here about how DC and Chicago and Detroit and Baltimore are actually violence free Utopias.

What really needs to happen right now is for the STATES to enact laws that reasonably tighten up background checks. For example, a pistol purchase permit costs five bucks here. You fill out an application, pay your five bucks, and your local sheriff's department runs a background check. I heard it's taking about two weeks right now. It's not a hassle nor does it infringe on anyone's rights. All of the states should pass the same law and then the federal gubment wouldn't be sticking its dick in our business.

[Seshmeister]

If you don't have border controls between states then that seems pretty meaningless to have controls in some.

8000 murders is NOT pretty low. It should be closer to a third of that in a normal developed country.

Also why make suicide so easy in the US, how many of those suicides weren't thought through?

Why not go the whole way?

[Von Halen]

The good guy wins again!

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