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  • Von Halen
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Dec 2003
    • 7501

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    • Seshmeister
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Oct 2003
      • 35219

      Originally posted by Von Halen
      Hide and watch how wrong your polls are Sesh. You'd think after you fuckers sat on your hands after believing the Brexit polls, you'd have learned a lesson. Guess not.
      No it's you guys that haven't learned a lesson.

      If you vote for a fucking idiot for a laugh just because the system is a bit shit, you wake up the next day and you have an idiot running things.

      Things can get worse believe me. The thing is that as you are always saying the USA is fucking important. If the dollar falls through the floor like the pound did after Brexit that affects everyone because it is the world currency.

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      • Seshmeister
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Oct 2003
        • 35219

        Originally posted by Von Halen

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        • Von Halen
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Dec 2003
          • 7501

          Sesh, I voted for Trump because he will make the dollar stronger. It will not fall through the floor. Go buy some gold right now Sesh, the minute Trump wins, it's going to spike.

          By the way, we've had idiots running things for many many years. Lobbyists and corrupt politicians like HilLIARy. It's time to start cleaning out the corruption.

          That fuck stick Bill Ford Jr got his feelings hurt and went and had a meeting with Trump to try to bully him into not calling out Ford Motor Company for moving their plants to Mexico. Guess what? He failed to bully the bully. Trump stood right there at Freedom Hill last night and called out Ford for shifting ALL their small car production to their new billion dollar plant in Mexico! It'll cost ole silver spoon Bill Jr 35% for every one of those fucking he cars he brings back across that border!

          But hey, I understand you supporting a lying murderous cunt Sesh. I'm sure a lot of henpecked guys like you are supporting her. You're used to being ruled by women.

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          • Seshmeister
            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

            • Oct 2003
            • 35219

            A conversation with the sister of Ambassador Stevens, who was killed in the Benghazi attack, about the new report from the House Committee’s long investigation.



            Dr. Anne Stevens, the sister of Ambassador Chris Stevens, has served as a family spokesperson since his death. She is the chief of pediatric rheumatology at Seattle Children’s Hospital. We spoke twice in the past three days, including shortly after the House Select Committee report was issued. Dr. Stevens recalled that her brother had been fascinated by the Middle East since childhood, when he dressed up as Lawrence of Arabia, with a towel and a pot atop his head. He served in the Peace Corps, in Morocco, before joining the Foreign Service, and he served twice in Libya before his final posting there, as well as in Damascus, Cairo, Jerusalem, and Riyadh. My interview with Dr. Stevens has been condensed and edited for clarity.

            Whom do you fault for the lack of security that resulted in the death of your brother, in Benghazi?

            It is clear, in hindsight, that the facility was not sufficiently protected by the State Department and the Defense Department. But what was the underlying cause? Perhaps if Congress had provided a budget to increase security for all missions around the world, then some of the requests for more security in Libya would have been granted. Certainly the State Department is underbudgeted.

            I do not blame Hillary Clinton or Leon Panetta. They were balancing security efforts at embassies and missions around the world. And their staffs were doing their best to provide what they could with the resources they had. The Benghazi Mission was understaffed. We know that now. But, again, Chris knew that. It wasn’t a secret to him. He decided to take the risk to go there. It is not something they did to him. It is something he took on himself.

            What did you learn from the two new reports by House Republicans and Democrats?

            It doesn’t look like anything new. They concluded that the U.S. compound in Benghazi was not secure. We knew that.

            What did you think of Secretary Clinton’s conduct on Benghazi?

            She has taken full responsibility, being head of the State Department, for what occurred. She took measures to respond to the review board’s recommendations. She established programs for a better security system. But it is never going to be perfect. Part of being a diplomat is being out in the community. We all recognize that there’s a risk in serving in a dangerous environment. Chris thought that was very important, and he probably would have done it again. I don’t see any usefulness in continuing to criticize her. It is very unjust.

            After years of congressional investigations, do you feel that your brother’s death has been politicized in Washington?

            Yes! Definitely politicized. Every report I read that mentions him specifically has a political bent, an accusatory bent. One point that seems to be brought up again and again is the accusation that the attack was a response to the video. I could understand why that conclusion would be made, because it was right after the attack on the U.S. Embassy in Egypt. But, frankly, it doesn’t matter that that was the thinking, that night, about why the attack occurred. It’s irrelevant to bring that up again and again. It is done purely for political reasons.

            It would be much more useful for Congress to focus on providing resources for security for all State Department facilities around the world—for increasing personnel, language capabilities, for increasing staff to build relationships, particularly in North Africa and the Middle East. I would love to hear they are drastically increasing the budget.

            Did your brother ever talk about the risks in Libya?

            Even before we had an Embassy in Tripoli, he fell in love with the land, the people, and the rich, rich history. He sent pictures. He saw the potential of Libya. When the revolution occurred, he was very optimistic about the future. He was happy to be involved, to be our special envoy in Benghazi for a year. He wanted to be part of this exciting prospect of a free Libya.

            He did tell us about the dangers then. He told us about a car bomb that had shaken the hotel where he had offices in Benghazi. But, when he talked about incidents like that, he never showed any fear or reluctance to continue the work. He took danger in stride.

            It was so important to have a U.S. presence in Benghazi and to show support for the American center being set up and other programs, such as the Benghazi Medical Center. We were helping them establish their new society. I don’t think we’ll ever know why he made the decision to take the risk of going to Benghazi, knowing there were multiple attacks. It was clearly a bad decision.

            Did he ever talk about not having enough security?

            He talked about his knowledge of the militias and the huge number of arms loose in Libya. That was one of his concerns and challenges. But he did not talk about that as a worry of his own security, which doesn’t mean he wasn’t concerned.

            Are there any questions left in your mind about what happened, why the U.S. didn’t respond faster, why Washington didn’t do more?

            The only questions that I have are not answerable by anyone investigated or questioned by the committee. My questions are about why the militiamen attacked the compound in the first place. What were their intentions? It’d be interesting to know that—and to hear what their views are and what they were thinking. It has nothing to do with what the State Department or the Defense Department was supposed to do that night. I think everyone did their very best in response to this event.

            Do you think it’s fair to make Benghazi an election issue?

            With the many issues in the current election, to use that incident—and to use Chris’s death as a political point—is not appropriate.

            How would Chris have felt about this election?

            I know he had a lot of respect for Secretary Clinton. He admired her ability to intensely read the issues and understand the whole picture.

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            • Von Halen
              ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

              • Dec 2003
              • 7501

              I'll send you a hat and a button Sesh.

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              • Seshmeister
                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                • Oct 2003
                • 35219

                Originally posted by Von Halen
                That fuck stick Bill Ford Jr got his feelings hurt and went and had a meeting with Trump to try to bully him into not calling out Ford Motor Company for moving their plants to Mexico. Guess what? He failed to bully the bully. Trump stood right there at Freedom Hill last night and called out Ford for shifting ALL their small car production to their new billion dollar plant in Mexico! It'll cost ole silver spoon Bill Jr 35% for every one of those fucking he cars he brings back across that border!
                All the experts say this will put you into a big recession. So you can listen to all the economists and business experts or you can believe the guy that bullshits all the time just making shit up.

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                • Von Halen
                  ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                  • Dec 2003
                  • 7501

                  Originally posted by Seshmeister
                  All the experts say this will put you into a big recession. So you can listen to all the economists and business experts or you can believe the guy that bullshits all the time just making shit up.

                  http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Dona...Free_Trade.htm
                  I have read just as much from the fucking economists and professors saying the exact same shit about HilLIARy's economy if she wins. That's the reason they're fucking economic professors at some podunk college, instead of being billionaires. How many millionaire or billionaire "economists" are there? Those fuck faces are nothing more than small scale infomercial type douchebags.

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                  • Kristy
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 16346

                    Von, you can barely read at all.

                    Your dayglo orange F A T fuck is going to lose. You can thank Wall Street later.

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                    • Seshmeister
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Oct 2003
                      • 35219

                      Originally posted by Von Halen
                      I have read just as much from the fucking economists and professors saying the exact same shit about HilLIARy's economy if she wins. That's the reason they're fucking economic professors at some podunk college, instead of being billionaires. How many millionaire or billionaire "economists" are there? Those fuck faces are nothing more than small scale infomercial type douchebags.
                      Yeah the post facts world.

                      Your google searches and clicks on the web decide what you see next time putting you into a bubble. That's why politics is getting so polarised and it's also why its so important to check sources of information.

                      Clinton is a liar but she lied maybe 15% of the time in speeches or debates, Trump is 4 times as bad on a good day.

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                      • cadaverdog
                        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 8955

                        Originally posted by Seshmeister
                        A big Latino turnout because of Trump could be vital. The stupid thing about all of this is that immigration from Mexico just isn't happening any more like it did during the Clinton and Bush years. The wall could never be built in any case. That said if Trump hadn't come up with all his bullshit about Mexico early on would he have got the nomination?
                        You don't know shit about shit. Although it's supposedly true more wetbacks are leaving than coming there's still over 10 million of them here. And they aren't all fruit pickers. As far as the wall goes there is a wall across a good portion of the border already. They've been working on it for years. If we could get our government to enforce the immigration laws we already have on the books and hold companies that hire illegals accountable for their actions we wouldn't need a wall across the border.
                        Beware of Dog

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                        • cadaverdog
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 8955

                          Originally posted by Seshmeister
                          Whom do you fault for the lack of security that resulted in the death of your brother, in Benghazi?

                          It is clear, in hindsight, that the facility was not sufficiently protected by the State Department and the Defense Department. But what was the underlying cause? Perhaps if Congress had provided a budget to increase security for all missions around the world, then some of the requests for more security in Libya would have been granted. Certainly the State Department is underbudgeted.

                          Bullshit. Here's the real reason:
                          The desire of the State Department to maintain a low profile in Benghazi has been cited as the reason why the State Department circumvented their own Overseas Security Policy Board (OSPB) standards for diplomatic security In the aftermath. In her January 2013 testimony before Congress, Secretary Clinton claimed security decisions at the Benghazi compound had been made by others, stating, "The specific security requests pertaining to Benghazi ... were handled by the security professionals in the [State] Department. I didn't see those requests, I didn't approve them, I didn't deny them.
                          Hillary Clinton, Queen of denial.
                          Beware of Dog

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                          • cadaverdog
                            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 8955

                            Originally posted by Seshmeister
                            If the dollar falls through the floor like the pound did after Brexit that affects everyone because it is the world currency.
                            Ever think that might not have happened if you and your fellow countrymen paid more attention to what was going on there instead of butting into our business all the time.
                            Beware of Dog

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                            • vandeleur
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 9865

                              Quick everyone there is a fight in the playground
                              fuck your fucking framing

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                              • vandeleur
                                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 9865

                                Originally posted by cadaverdog
                                Ever think that might not have happened if you and your fellow countrymen paid more attention to what was going on there instead of butting into our business all the time.
                                Unfortunately it happened when a percentage of the population decided their desire for change outweighed their desire to read.

                                True story
                                fuck your fucking framing

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